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mrafaeldie12
Brazil537 Posts
Cost of DP. Inno #1 Inno #2 Perry vetoes regulation to execute mentally ill. Perry and his execution record. Collection of Executions Rick Perry prosecuted + political "influence" won executing citizens. About Capital punishment on the intelectually handicapped. Edit:Recent case envolving Troy Davis but this one is from Savanah,GA. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7291 Posts
I really have to question the truth of the castration and chemicals, etc, but if they are true, they're far, far sicker than your average gangbanger. Just... just sad. | ||
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DueSs
United States765 Posts
On December 10 2011 06:07 Zambrah wrote: This is just... appalling. I really have to question the truth of the castration and chemicals, etc, but if they are true, they're far, far sicker than your average gangbanger. Just... just sad. All very, very true. | ||
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besteady
United States75 Posts
On December 10 2011 05:44 Holy_AT wrote: If I knew this couple personally I would like to see them all executed. And then I would round up the whole family and friends and what not of them and execute them publicly. In my eyes they are guilty of the crime just as the ones who actually committed it. Holy shit how can you actually think this? I understand being appalled sad, and very angry, but should we have killed all of the Germans and Japanese after World War 2 as well? | ||
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
On December 10 2011 05:55 mrafaeldie12 wrote: Yes go Texas,Rick Perry was happy to execute that innocent fella and the other guy that had a mental illness wrongfully.Besides executing a human being costs 4x more than him being held forever in a prison. death penalty trials cost more than other trials. they are far more demanding, more rigorous. this is simply a fact of all (afaik) state court systems. | ||
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acidstormy
United States191 Posts
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
I can't help but to get riled and try to point the blame at someone or something, but I think, straight up: 1) This was a hate crime, most likely of racist origin. 2) These guys were mentally insane, or really fucked up on drugs 3) The least likely considering all of the perpetrators were caught in the most unsophisticated way possible, this was act of establishing 'street cred' or some motive like that. If anything, this option is giving them too much intellectual credit. I'm interested in the finer details though... Like why this couple? Was there a previous altercation? I'm from the South, and I know that alot of white Southerners were raised by parents stuck in the 18th century, which creates a cycle. Not trying to blanket, but it's an established fact that I've witnessed AND experienced time and time again. Why so gruesomely? Even disregarding the rape and mutilation, why multiple bullets? An proper analogy would be the difference between slitting someone's throat and stabbing them 19 times. One is methodical for the purpose of killing while the other is filled with passion and emotion. Which leads me to think that it's tied to a previous meeting, or even passing-by, where the couple may have done something to trigger the response... I don't know. This is my way of trying to make sense of something that makes no sense. Tragic... | ||
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Sosha
United States749 Posts
I can't possibly see the argument to "let justice come of it" or "let the justice system do its work", we all know that its flawed, almost hopelessly. Our Justice system has been known to not find the evidence neccesary in some cases to convict clearly guilty parties due to some loophole or trickery in lawyer debates and some cases where rapists can go free in 5-7 years, which is insane.. Those who agree and think that the justice system is doing its job sufficiently by letting these wastes of space occupy area in prisons are crazy.. Letting 5 adults spend the rest of their lives in prison, being fed and being a burden in the world is a waste of time. If one person was to shoot an officer, while trying to escape from a high speed pursuit, u can rest assured that he'd be put to death, but perhaps spending 10+ years behind bars (because the system is sooo slow to do anything about this, theres ppl being on death row for almost 20 years before they actually see the death penalty, in which they almost forget what they've done to get to that point by then). But these assholes kidnap, rape and murder two innocent contributers to society, life and the pursuit of their own happiness, they get to spend the rest of their life in prison.. and thats supposed to make up for it? I know the argument, that the theory of an eye for an eye would leave us all blind, but again, I don't mean in every situation but almost definately in any and every case that merits the death penalty.. Sometimes you have to set examples that such things won't be tolerated, and even though cases or situations like this might still happen, those responsible can be sure that when they're caught, they're won't be any mercy and the 'hammer' of justice will fall quickly and powerfuly | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
Well, this sort of crap happens ... But interestingly enought, most of Tragic events happen in a culture that has been raised in a certain matter. For instance: In Spain, most of the tragedies are males killing their Wife/gilfriend. If ever see how males behave with their wifes outside cities, its not much of a surprise that when those try to leave them, they do something crazy and stupid. 99.9% of the times its the parents fault. If you give you children a good education, a decent moral value system, etc... Its very hard that something like that should happen. But if you take somone who lived in an envoiroment that created the situation for this.... shit happens. Finally, If i was the admin of this Webpage, id probably delete this thread. This is after all a gaming comunity, with underage people, and this is not something they should be reading about (they will get enought of this crap in tv news anyway). | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On December 10 2011 05:35 neoghaleon55 wrote: Stories like these make me support the death penalty. We need artificial genetic selection, dammit! ...lol go texas! I would support execution in this case, but no... we don't need to follow the eugenicism of 19th century Britain or 20th century Germany on top of that. No thanks. | ||
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
Then when I calm down a little, and think about the power structures that create the contexts for these events to take place, I get more and more hopeless and don't know how to act meaningfully. I guess ill play some video games | ||
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AmericanNightmare
United States98 Posts
On December 10 2011 05:55 mrafaeldie12 wrote: Yes go Texas,Rick Perry was happy to execute that innocent fella and the other guy that had a mental illness wrongfully.Besides executing a human being costs 4x more than him being held forever in a prison. Hell Yeah Go Texas!! Hmmm, execute an innocent man? No no my friend.. only people found guilty of a crime can be executed. If they are innocent and can't provide enough evidence to show it than it's to bad for them. (I've been found guilty of a felony I didn't commit) Proving you didn't do something after you're dead isn't fast enough. Mental illness man.. he killed two people and put someone else in chair for life. Did he have a illness? Yes, but then was too late to use this excuse AND the Supreme Court denied his appeal. Rick Perry didn't kill anyone. The people of Texas found whoever guilty. Executing cost so much because of one thing, Bleeding heart pussies. If there weren't so many appeals or red tape and just a rope and a gallows than it wouldn't be very expensive would it? And, what do you.. in Brazil, care if we here in Texas execute a criminal? Would Brazil be ok with a exchange program where we send our violent criminals there to live in exchange for them getting the fuck outta our state? The criminals would fit right in the the corruption and crime in Brazil. Maybe you guys should be trying to get Perry as your president to clean your country up instead of mock us for enforcing the consequences of breaking our laws. Are we happy to execute people? No, I'm never happy when someone dies. I am happy when justice is served. What was done to these two poor souls is anger-inducing to me. The people who committed these acts are animals, the only problem is we as humans can't give these filth the punishment they deserve. | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
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Legate
46 Posts
On December 10 2011 06:17 besteady wrote: Holy shit how can you actually think this? I understand being appalled sad, and very angry, but should we have killed all of the Germans and Japanese after World War 2 as well? Well, at least "you" kinda tried, dropping bombs and nukes on civil cities with the intention to kill civilians", wasn't that a form of retribution too? Also I dont think ALL the Germans and Japanese were murderers, not even the soldiers. Or would you label a soldier a murderer? Also most of the real Nazis that did the murderings in the KZs and their supervisors did get the death penalty. So i dont know if you are trolling or what but that comparison is kinda off. | ||
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GGOPikachu
33 Posts
 What the fuck is wrong with some people.... | ||
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Dknight
United States5223 Posts
On December 10 2011 06:36 Sosha wrote: I can't possibly see the argument to "let justice come of it" or "let the justice system do its work", we all know that its flawed, almost hopelessly. Our Justice system has been known to not find the evidence neccesary in some cases to convict clearly guilty parties due to some loophole or trickery in lawyer debates and some cases where rapists can go free in 5-7 years, which is insane.. Those who agree and think that the justice system is doing its job sufficiently by letting these wastes of space occupy area in prisons are crazy.. Letting 5 adults spend the rest of their lives in prison, being fed and being a burden in the world is a waste of time. If one person was to shoot an officer, while trying to escape from a high speed pursuit, u can rest assured that he'd be put to death, but perhaps spending 10+ years behind bars (because the system is sooo slow to do anything about this, theres ppl being on death row for almost 20 years before they actually see the death penalty, in which they almost forget what they've done to get to that point by then). But these assholes kidnap, rape and murder two innocent contributers to society, life and the pursuit of their own happiness, they get to spend the rest of their life in prison.. and thats supposed to make up for it? It's more of a burden to the state if they're found guilty and put to death. It costs roughly 1.5 to 2 million dollars to put someone to death because of the required appeals, lawyer fees, and everything else involved in the process. However, it's only roughly $20-25,000 per year in jail. So let's take Davidson, who is currently 30. If he lives for 40 more years while in jail for life, at $25k it'll cost the state 1 million versus 1.5-2 million if they wanted to put him to death. Furthermore, you act like spending life in prison is fun. Rapists, especially brutal acts like these, often have an incredibly hard time and I imagine these young men will have a much more difficult time than most other incarcerated individuals. | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On December 10 2011 03:35 Kurr wrote: Normally I would just not agree with this. I wouldn't want Breivik killed, but this is even worse. These people lost their right to be human. Kill them in the exact way they killed their victims. At least Breivik just shot people.Yep. Give me a gun and I'd do it myself. Enraging story. Some people don't deserve a second chance. | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On December 10 2011 06:45 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: I would support execution in this case, but no... we don't need to follow the eugenicism of 19th century Britain or 20th century Germany on top of that. No thanks. The United States had a prominent eugenics program. You should really think twice before trying to be clever with comments like these. | ||
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