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Critical questions - such as why the security service MI5 maintained terrorist "assets" in Manchester and why the government did not warn the public of the threat in their midst - remain unanswered, deflected by the promise of an internal "review".

The alleged suicide bomber, Salman Abedi, was part of an extremist group, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, that thrived in Manchester and was cultivated and used by MI5 for more than 20 years.

The LIFG is proscribed by Britain as a terrorist organisation which seeks a "hardline Islamic state" in Libya and "is part of the wider global Islamist extremist movement, as inspired by al-Qaida".

The "smoking gun" is that when Theresa May was Home Secretary, LIFG jihadists were allowed to travel unhindered across Europe and encouraged to engage in "battle": first to remove Mu'ammar Gadaffi in Libya, then to join al-Qaida affiliated groups in Syria.

On June 05 2017 04:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
http://johnpilger.com/articles/terror-in-britain-what-did-the-prime-minister-know
This is an interesting article from a well respected, award winning journalist and documentary maker.
I'm not saying this is true because I have no idea but it suggests that we knew much more about the Manchester bomber and/or his associates than anyone is letting on:

Salman Abedi was 16 when he first visited Libya, the country his parents had fled in 1993 to escape persecution under Muammer Gaddafi. But this was no ordinary coming-of-age trip for Abedi. Once there, he reunited with his father, who had left his family in Manchester three years earlier to aid the revolution against Gaddafi. And, according to friends of the family, members of the Libyan community in Manchester and sources in Libya, Abedi had come to fight.

He was not alone. It was 2011, and dozens of other Mancunians were already there. Mustafa Graf, the imam of the Didsbury mosque, the centre of the Libyan community in south Manchester, had also travelled back to Libya to help topple Gaddafi. Manchester became a fundraising centre for their war effort. Preachers travelled between the two countries, encouraging the fight, invariably couching it in terms of jihad.

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Britain’s intelligence agencies knew the community well, too, and had longstanding dealings with its Islamist contingent. But the attack raises serious questions over their assessment of it. MI5, the UK’s domestic intelligence agency, facilitated the travel of many Islamist Mancunians back to Libya.

Until recently, the UK’s spymasters have not seen the community as a particular threat. Libyan Islamists in Manchester, many believed, were too focused on waging a national jihad in their homeland to be a threat to the UK. Since the beginning of the Syrian civil war and the spate of attacks in France, Belgium and Germany, anti-terror work in the UK and Europe has focused on young returnees from Syria.

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Bilal Bettammer, a Libyan student and social activist in the revolution, now a lawyer in Canada, recalls the influx.

“I’d say of the more hardline groups, 60 or 70 per cent of their fighters in the beginning were from abroad. In 2011 we noticed a big influence from Manchester. There were lots of them in Derna. There were Libyan families here cashing British welfare cheques. Those went a long way in dinar.”

Mr Bettammer recalls watching a British preacher in Libya. “We have to choose sharia and reject secularism, he was saying. He was from Manchester, talking about stories of his life there. About the need to convert people. It was all the usual rhetoric but, in Libya, it had a violent meaning.”

Mr Bettammer says he and other secularist campaigners tried to warn the British ambassador to Libya at the time about the number of Britons and their radical views but were rebuffed. The UK, he says, wanted to encourage them instead because it viewed the Islamist groups as a more viable anti-Gaddafi alternative to native secularists.

On June 05 2017 08:10 FiveHundred wrote:
since the climate of the middle east was architected to destroy all the abuse of power through climate change we have an explanation for the middle east.

It seems most likely this string of attacks in the UK is actually caused by the illuminazi. it is a conspiracy theory, but it is probably true. if there were not some vast underground CIA these events would be a lot less likely. as some commentator somewhere pointed out, there's really no reason for this behavior. once these relatively happy middle eastern people travel to the united states or the EU they should be happy. but they aren't happy, and are engaged in the same protocols they are engaged in while they are in the middle east. this shows they think they're still in the middle east which is notoriously known for being a pre-architechted society against power abuse. therefore the only explanation is the illuminazi.

at least this is my explanation.

The London Bridge terror attack ringleader appeared in a documentary about jihadis in the UK last year.

In 2016, he appeared in the documentary alongside a notorious preacher as they prayed to an Islamic State flag in a London park.

On June 05 2017 20:00 Reaps wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/london-terror-ringleader-appeared-in-channel-4-documentary-praying-to-isis-flag/ar-BBC0bgl?li=BBoPWjQ




Unbelievable

On June 05 2017 22:28 SoSexy wrote:
Praying to an ISIS flag in a public park in London with 2 radicalized preachers is not concrete enough for you?

On June 05 2017 22:29 KwarK wrote:

Their conviction for what crime?

On June 05 2017 22:30 SoSexy wrote:


The same you would get in Germany for doing the nazi sign to a nazi flag in a public park in Berlin.

On June 05 2017 22:35 SoSexy wrote:
Oh I see Kwark. Your plan worked really nice until now.

On June 05 2017 22:35 SoSexy wrote:
Oh I see Kwark. Your plan worked really nice until now. If you honestly can't see the problem with people praying to the flag of a terrorist organization and you are more concerned about their 'right' to hail murderers, it's useless to talk.