EPTHeard some numbers on CNN earlier, UK police have 3000+ open investigations on people with possible ties to Islamic extremism, with 20k+ on possible watch lists, ridiculously absurd numbers. I had no idea.
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LuckyFool
United States9016 Posts
Heard some numbers on CNN earlier, UK police have 3000+ open investigations on people with possible ties to Islamic extremism, with 20k+ on possible watch lists, ridiculously absurd numbers. I had no idea. | ||
Falling
Canada11607 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9016 Posts
On June 04 2017 11:29 Falling wrote: Semantics I know, but what is the difference between an incident and an attack? I think police were initially fairly cryptic with the language being used to report the event, quarantining off a huge area around the bridge with very few details for the first hour or two afterwards as to what happened, many media outlets then just ran with 'incident' during that time but as details have emerged it's obviously a planned attack at this point. Probably could use a thread renaming. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On June 04 2017 10:42 Plansix wrote: Second this. Be good to eachother U.K. and don't fall into the traps my nation did. Uhhh... Last I heard the UK is already basically a police state, and Ms May wants to implement forced backdoors into all encryption... Not to mention Brexit... I don't think they'r going to do so well on that avoiding the traps bit. | ||
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RealityIsKing
613 Posts
On June 04 2017 12:33 a_flayer wrote: Uhhh... Last I heard the UK is already basically a police state, and Ms May wants to implement forced backdoors into all encryption... Not to mention Brexit... I don't think they'r going to do so well on that avoiding the traps bit. Not even a trap. Bush just went after the wrong people and not being aggressive enough with the terrorists. You have to do it right. | ||
peanuts
United States1225 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On June 04 2017 14:44 peanuts wrote: So one of the incidents is separate, but are the other two related/coordinated? yeah. the random stabbing at Vauxhall must have just been a coincidence in terms of timing. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On June 04 2017 10:12 KwarK wrote: In fairness he was only attacking my extremely British values. Apparently Testie is so upset about terrorists lashing out against British values and killing British people in an attempt to scare us into changing our values that he's started to agree with the terrorists. What a world. You basically said you were ok with civilians getting slaughtered because doing nothing served your nebulous concept of "british values" Please be clear that you are not defending traditional british values, but rather your globalist leftist agenda, and this is pretty infuriating to anyone, as testie, who can clearly read trough your semantics and mental gymnastics to defend the indefensible. | ||
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KwarK
United States44451 Posts
On June 04 2017 15:00 GoTuNk! wrote: You basically said you were ok with civilians getting slaughtered because doing nothing served your nebulous concept of "british values" Please be clear that you are not defending traditional british values, but rather your globalist leftist agenda, and this is pretty infuriating to anyone, as testie, who can clearly read trough your semantics and mental gymnastics to defend the indefensible. That's not at all what I said. | ||
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KwarK
United States44451 Posts
On June 04 2017 12:33 a_flayer wrote: Uhhh... Last I heard the UK is already basically a police state, and Ms May wants to implement forced backdoors into all encryption... Not to mention Brexit... I don't think they'r going to do so well on that avoiding the traps bit. We're not a police state, nor are we becoming one. People don't disappear, people cannot be held without charge, disloyalty and other thought crimes don't exist, there are fair public trials and so forth. Very much not a police state. Sorry if that disappoints you for whatever reason. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
I think we have the best police in the world to be honest especially considering most of them aren't armed, they do an amazing job. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On June 04 2017 12:33 a_flayer wrote: Uhhh... Last I heard the UK is already basically a police state, and Ms May wants to implement forced backdoors into all encryption... Not to mention Brexit... I don't think they'r going to do so well on that avoiding the traps bit. In what world is the UK a police state? Need to stop reading reddit a bit I think. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
On June 04 2017 20:04 bo1b wrote: In what world is the UK a police state? Need to stop reading reddit a bit I think. It's a meme based on the fact that the UK has the most CCTV per head of population. Also, the last government gave police the ability to check people's browsing history without informing them of what they were doing. They began by claiming this was only for terrorism investigations but eventually admitted it would be used for other 'serious' incidents. Translation: it can be used for anything. As you can see, the PM wants to push this further. It's a lot of nonsense that will infringe on the rights of British people and do nothing to stop terrorism. As for British values, I am increasingly convinced that they are already dead, or so watered down as to barely be worth the name. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10027 Posts
This is a definite encroachment on what you might call 'British Values', the definition of which is vague and watered down a bit by the fact that we are a democracy with freedom of speech and multiplicity of values. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 04 2017 17:47 Zaros wrote: https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/871247184049709056 I think we have the best police in the world to be honest especially considering most of them aren't armed, they do an amazing job. Its amazing , from a guy who lives in a state that had years of terrorists attack , this is impressive reaction time indeed! | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4463 Posts
On June 04 2017 12:33 a_flayer wrote: Uhhh... Last I heard the UK is already basically a police state, and Ms May wants to implement forced backdoors into all encryption... Not to mention Brexit... I don't think they'r going to do so well on that avoiding the traps bit. England has the most CCTVs per capita, London being an even greater concentration. Doesn't stop these kind of attacks whatsoever but won't be surprised to see them expand the police state further in order to justify "security". Heard about this on the radio earlier but thought they were bringing up the terror attack that happened a couple of months ago with the same circumstances.RIP to the newly deceased. | ||
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
The immigration rules need to be enforced | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4463 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
I love politicians so much. | ||
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