Why are people speaking about him shotting himself ? All i am listening to says they are still trying to find them, and there were 3 armed persons. We don't really know their identity or motives yet, and yeah this goes both ways.
Bild Online are reporting that one gunman has shot himself -- injuries unknown at present. Remain indoors.
wait...SHOT HIMSELF? It confirms his not muslim then. Why would terrorist ever shot himself? It looks more like some freak that gone postal.
Why would it confirm that? Muslim terrorists commiting suicide during/after the act isn't exctly rare. As for a freak gone postal, there are 3 suspects, not just 1. Until one of them is apprehended or killed we can't know much, only speculate on the who and why.
It actually is, if you look closer.
I couldn't recall a single islamic terrorist who shot himself. Yes, they blow themselves up. To kill more. That's where the term suicide bombers comes from - but rarely, if ever, do they shoot themselves in the head.
Since you do not seem to understand how arguments work: My sentence means yours is bullshit.
It actually doesn't. You're only confirming what i'm saying. Who gives a shit if he's an immigrant. He's not an islamic terrorist, that's the point. You're apparently not able to grasp it. Because if he was, he wouldn't say either.
Germany has an incredible large muslim immigrant population that are born in Germany? Why wouldnt an islamic terrorist say hes German? They dont give up their nation. They even name themself al-almani. A few thousand of them went to fight in Syria.
I am so glad I left Germany for good. People like you will never see reason.
Bild Online are reporting that one gunman has shot himself -- injuries unknown at present. Remain indoors.
wait...SHOT HIMSELF? It confirms his not muslim then. Why would terrorist ever shot himself? It looks more like some freak that gone postal.
Why would it confirm that? Muslim terrorists commiting suicide during/after the act isn't exctly rare. As for a freak gone postal, there are 3 suspects, not just 1. Until one of them is apprehended or killed we can't know much, only speculate on the who and why.
It actually is, if you look closer.
I couldn't recall a single islamic terrorist who shot himself. Yes, they blow themselves up. To kill more. That's where the term suicide bombers comes from - but rarely, if ever, do they shoot themselves in the head.
Since you do not seem to understand how arguments work: My sentence means yours is bullshit.
It actually doesn't. You're only confirming what i'm saying. Who gives a shit if he's an immigrant. He's not an islamic terrorist, that's the point. You're apparently not able to grasp it. Because if he was, he wouldn't say either.
Germany has an incredible large muslim immigrant population that are born in Germany? Why wouldnt an islamic terrorist say hes German? They dont give up their nation. They even name themself al-almani. A few thousand of them went to fight in Syria.
I am so glad I left Germany for good. People like you will never see reason.
I will never see reason? Because i'm saying it's too early to call this islamic terrorism? I don't think you're in the position to call anyone unreasonable.
Bild Online are reporting that one gunman has shot himself -- injuries unknown at present. Remain indoors.
wait...SHOT HIMSELF? It confirms his not muslim then. Why would terrorist ever shot himself? It looks more like some freak that gone postal.
Why would it confirm that? Muslim terrorists commiting suicide during/after the act isn't exctly rare. As for a freak gone postal, there are 3 suspects, not just 1. Until one of them is apprehended or killed we can't know much, only speculate on the who and why.
It actually is, if you look closer.
I couldn't recall a single islamic terrorist who shot himself. Yes, they blow themselves up. To kill more. That's where the term suicide bombers comes from - but rarely, if ever, do they shoot themselves in the head.
Since you do not seem to understand how arguments work: My sentence means yours is bullshit.
It actually doesn't. You're only confirming what i'm saying. Who gives a shit if he's an immigrant. He's not an islamic terrorist, that's the point. You're apparently not able to grasp it. Because if he was, he wouldn't say either.
Germany has an incredible large muslim immigrant population that are born in Germany? Why wouldnt an islamic terrorist say hes German? They dont give up their nation. They even name themself al-almani. A few thousand of them went to fight in Syria.
I am so glad I left Germany for good. People like you will never see reason.
You left Germany for which country, if it is not indiscreet ?
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but the rate of growth of their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population growth decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Just give incentives for the population to produce. Admit that you need people to reproduce and give them more benefits and tax cuts. Population decline should be a thing people on the left love, less people = less planet rape = better for the environment.
On July 23 2016 03:47 m4ini wrote: Considering that one of the shooters stated "i'm german, i was born in germany" (something an islamic terrorist wouldn't say, ever, i assume) and the fact that today exactly five years ago Breivik went rampage..
I'd be careful with assumptions for now. Even though, admittedly, my first guess was "the next ISIS attack in germany" as well.
Actually thats something germans dont say normally.
Germans say: I am German and Immigrants: I was born in Germany
Can confirm. I get asked where I am from on a daily basis, because I have an indian name, however I was born and raised in Germany. It's simply my dad being from India, while mom's german. "I was born in Germany" is what I pretty much always reply with.
As far as the shootings go, I just hope the best for the situation with as minimal damage as still possible. Innocent people getting killed is always a bad thing. However if one of the attackers really screamed "fucking foreigners" this is gonna blow up a huge discussion for politics and media again. I mean, it's Germany after all and we know about this countrys history and how media is going to present it if this is true.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but the rate of growth of their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population growth decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Japan has a functionning currency; a functionning government. I know full well about Japan, but the living condition back there is not decreasing, they are just stagnating, it's not the same for Greece, or Spain, who are actually in a decline, and the eurozone is stagnating and has been for the past ten years. They are not worse than us economically.
So apparantly, this video shows one of the guys who are responsible for the shootings in Munich. It's quite hard to understand but it's about a bavarian guy yelling from the balcony (?) towards the guy on the roof, who seems to be a german and not someone from middle-east. The bavarian guy is basically insulting the guy on the roof, who claims to be a german and hates people from turkey. And he yells something about buying a weapon.
Some people suspect that this attack is connected to what Anders Breivik did 4 (?) years ago in Norway.
Edit: Apparantly a similar video has already been posted.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but the rate of growth of their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population growth decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Japan has a functionning currency; a functionning government. I know full well about Japan, but the living condition back there is not decreasing, they are just stagnating, it's not the same for Greece, or Spain, who are actually in a decline, and the eurozone is stagnating and has been for the past ten years. They are not worse than us economically.
You don't get it. In Japan the richer don't get really richer anymore. In the EU the richer get a lot richer so we have a "working economy" lol
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Just give incentives for the population to produce. Admit that you need people to reproduce and give them more benefits and tax cuts. Population decline should be a thing people on the left love, less people = less planet rape = better for the environment.
The environment doesn't matter if we're not around :p. Anyway countries do various things to nudge people and get them to make babies, it's just a big decision that's difficult to influence with tax cuts and other shit. What is it, they say have a child costs $200,000 over the cost of 18 years or something? People know that more or less, so a $500 tax cut and a "national love day" that specifically says go out and fuck, it doesn't work that well.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but the rate of growth of their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population growth decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Japan has a functionning currency; a functionning government. I know full well about Japan, but the living condition back there is not decreasing, they are just stagnating, it's not the same for Greece, or Spain, who are actually in a decline, and the eurozone is stagnating and has been for the past ten years. They are not worse than us economically.
Today it seems that way. I think Europe has the tools to recover, where Japan's situation may get a LOT worse before it gets better. I'm no economist so it's just basically a guess and a mix of things I've heard smarter people say over the years.
Very different things obviously.
That being said the GDP of Japan went from 6T in 2011 to 4T in 2015, it's a drop of 33% in 4 years. Spain dropped hard too, from 1.6T to 1.2T from 2008 to 2015, still a drop of 25% but over 7 years. Greece is in a bad shape though, for sure, going from 350b to 195b from 2008 to 2015, a 43% drop over 7 years. Now those don't tell the whole story and GDP is a deeply flawed indicator but don't underestimate the shit Japan is in.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Just give incentives for the population to produce. Admit that you need people to reproduce and give them more benefits and tax cuts.
The problem with this is that the older a population is, the harder it is to increase benefits for any other category of people without commiting political suicide.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Just give incentives for the population to produce. Admit that you need people to reproduce and give them more benefits and tax cuts.
The problem with this is that the older a population is, the harder it is to increase benefits for any other category of people without commiting political suicide.
Check the welfare %'s on non-natives in native countries. They're astronomical, and they stay that way.
I think there's other ways to lessen the burden of this by asking the general populace to accept more responsibility for themselves without committing cultural suicide. Some measures may be drastic but far better than these multicultural experiments that I think would fail horribly in Japan. Merkel herself said in 2010, "multiculturalism has failed" before blowing open her borders. Swedes and Germans think a bunch of jobless migrants on welfare will pay for their pensions. All that does is burden the systems even more until they break. Which may be a goal of some people who are pushing Basic Income ideas around.
We're getting OT here so I apologize but I prefer countries to have somewhat strict immigration to slowly see the results of these policies over a long period of time.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Just give incentives for the population to produce. Admit that you need people to reproduce and give them more benefits and tax cuts.
The problem with this is that the older a population is, the harder it is to increase benefits for any other category of people without commiting political suicide.
at the end of the day even being at 90millions or not japan won't fall into the sea, it will still be japan and be able to recover even after decades
On July 23 2016 03:22 sharkie wrote: So will leftwings say this is just one crazy person again?
Its weird, because you are the first one to ask what the right or left will say. You looking for a little internet drama to go with the horrific violence?
No but I am sick of people saying this is a one time thing only. Of course this is horrible but we need to start doing stuff to stop this shit.
What stuff would that be?
Close off borders and start searching flats and houses and get rid of any weapons. My house is wide open for police to search, I got nothing to hide.
and yes that would take ages, its still better than doing nothing ffs
A knife can be a weapon, a truck can be a weapon, anything can be a weapon. Do we prevent people from having cutting objects and cars as well?
Fine, guns. You happy?
i prefer the remove kebab route. aint gonna give up my guns when they're around
Straight up racism when nobody even knows any details yet. And you can't be reported because of mod status(?). Nice.
ill retact this comment if the shooter isnt a muslim
Dude are you fucking serious? Think about what you are saying here, you prefer ethnic cleansing over giving up your guns? Actually very close to emailing Afreeca...
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Just give incentives for the population to produce. Admit that you need people to reproduce and give them more benefits and tax cuts. Population decline should be a thing people on the left love, less people = less planet rape = better for the environment.
The environment doesn't matter if we're not around :p. Anyway countries do various things to nudge people and get them to make babies, it's just a big decision that's difficult to influence with tax cuts and other shit. What is it, they say have a child costs $200,000 over the cost of 18 years or something? People know that more or less, so a $500 tax cut and a "national love day" that specifically says go out and fuck, it doesn't work that well.
On July 23 2016 03:55 sharkie wrote: You know what country does not have terrorism in the last few years? Japan Do you know why? Because they are full of extremists and close off their borders.
Japan's economy is a house of cards though.
Not more than europe.
Japan's economy, for a bunch of reasons, has more long term challenges than Europe's. Closing borders is hardly a good solution when the birth rate is lower than 2 in most of the West, and it's even worse in Japan. And sure they don't have much terrorism but the rate of growth of their population is declining a lot faster than terrorists could make Europe's population growth decline :p.
Anyway Japan is already homogenous so that simplifies things. Closing borders in already multicultural places wouldn't really help much, IMO. Not that you were arguing for closing borders, I'm just saying.
Japan has a functionning currency; a functionning government. I know full well about Japan, but the living condition back there is not decreasing, they are just stagnating, it's not the same for Greece, or Spain, who are actually in a decline, and the eurozone is stagnating and has been for the past ten years. They are not worse than us economically.
Today it seems that way. I think Europe has the tools to recover, where Japan's situation may get a LOT worse before it gets better. I'm no economist so it's just basically a guess and a mix of things I've heard smarter people say over the years.
Very different things obviously.
That being said the GDP of Japan went from 6T in 2011 to 4T in 2015, it's a drop of 33% in 4 years. Spain dropped hard too, from 1.6T to 1.2T from 2008 to 2015, still a drop of 25% but over 7 years. Greece is in a bad shape though, for sure, going from 350b to 195b from 2008 to 2015, a 43% drop over 7 years. Now those don't tell the whole story and GDP is a deeply flawed indicator but don't underestimate the shit Japan is in.
Is it real or nominal ? Japan has been stagnating, you're taking the wrong historic period, they have been stagnating since 1990, the drop you point out is just a return to the 2008 GDP. Their GDP per capita is still higher than most european country by far. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/japan/gdp
I'm not sure it's the right place to discuss that tho. Maybe the european topic is more suited for such discussion.
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