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On July 23 2016 04:30 NukeD wrote:
Its not all about economy growth. What happened to those good old fashion values on which we used to rely?
Which old fashioned values? Christianity, working 80 hours a week, men work and women clean, switching crops every other season so the land doesn't get tired and other farming techniques, the fear of communism and nuclear fallout?
I'm not one to be crazy for economy growth but the problem is when an economy stops growing in capitalism it doesn't just decline gently, it snaps and people go hungry.
Closing borders is a sure way to make that happen unless you have a fertility rate above like 2.5, which afaik no one has in the west(?)
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Huh. I just learned about this just now. I was driving past that RIGHT as it was happening.
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Guys, could you please come back to the "real" topic here?
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Don't know what I'm looking at but sharing anyway. Looks like two men with guns. Not exactly shooting anyone they see though.
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On July 23 2016 04:31 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 03:44 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 23 2016 03:43 NihiLStarcraft wrote:On July 23 2016 03:40 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 23 2016 03:39 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 03:38 OtherWorld wrote:On July 23 2016 03:33 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 03:31 Dan HH wrote:On July 23 2016 03:29 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 03:24 Plansix wrote:
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Its weird, because you are the first one to ask what the right or left will say. You looking for a little internet drama to go with the horrific violence? No but I am sick of people saying this is a one time thing only. Of course this is horrible but we need to start doing stuff to stop this shit. What stuff would that be? Close off borders and start searching flats and houses and get rid of any weapons. My house is wide open for police to search, I got nothing to hide. and yes that would take ages, its still better than doing nothing ffs A knife can be a weapon, a truck can be a weapon, anything can be a weapon. Do we prevent people from having cutting objects and cars as well? Fine, guns. You happy? i prefer the remove kebab route. aint gonna give up my guns when they're around Straight up racism when nobody even knows any details yet. And you can't be reported because of mod status(?). Nice. ill retact this comment if the shooter isnt a muslim Dude are you fucking serious? Think about what you are saying here, you prefer ethnic cleansing over giving up your guns? Actually very close to emailing Afreeca...
To be fair he said he would stop muslims from immigrating further, not "cleansing" the ones already inside. I also prefer the Hungarian approach.
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On July 23 2016 04:33 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:30 NukeD wrote:
Its not all about economy growth. What happened to those good old fashion values on which we used to rely? Which old fashioned values? Christianity, working 80 hours a week, men work and women clean, switching crops every other season so the land doesn't get tired and other farming techniques, the fear of communism and nuclear fallout? I'm not one to be crazy for economy growth but the problem is when an economy stops growing in capitalism it doesn't just decline gently, it snaps and people go hungry. Closing borders is a sure way to make that happen unless you have a fertility rate above like 2.5, which afaik no one has in the west(?)
Japanese are starving? o.o That's new to me
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Apparantly these are policemen.
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On July 23 2016 04:35 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:33 Djzapz wrote:On July 23 2016 04:30 NukeD wrote:
Its not all about economy growth. What happened to those good old fashion values on which we used to rely? Which old fashioned values? Christianity, working 80 hours a week, men work and women clean, switching crops every other season so the land doesn't get tired and other farming techniques, the fear of communism and nuclear fallout? I'm not one to be crazy for economy growth but the problem is when an economy stops growing in capitalism it doesn't just decline gently, it snaps and people go hungry. Closing borders is a sure way to make that happen unless you have a fertility rate above like 2.5, which afaik no one has in the west(?) Japanese are starving? o.o That's new to me
Have have in and out of one of the longest recessions in human history. But I don't think they are "starving" on mass.
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On July 23 2016 04:35 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:33 Djzapz wrote:On July 23 2016 04:30 NukeD wrote:
Its not all about economy growth. What happened to those good old fashion values on which we used to rely? Which old fashioned values? Christianity, working 80 hours a week, men work and women clean, switching crops every other season so the land doesn't get tired and other farming techniques, the fear of communism and nuclear fallout? I'm not one to be crazy for economy growth but the problem is when an economy stops growing in capitalism it doesn't just decline gently, it snaps and people go hungry. Closing borders is a sure way to make that happen unless you have a fertility rate above like 2.5, which afaik no one has in the west(?) Japanese are starving? o.o That's new to me
Not what I was saying  ...
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Was just a question of time. We made our bed and now have to lie in it, sucks for the relatives of the victims. Will happen more often in the future.
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On July 23 2016 04:34 SK.Testie wrote:Don't know what I'm looking at but sharing anyway. Looks like two men with guns. Not exactly shooting anyone they see though. + Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/berkhoff85/status/756549808182140928
Could be civil police.
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On July 23 2016 04:36 JoeCool wrote:Apparantly these are policemen.
Well the one walking behind could be one, was my first thought too. The first one has shorts. I wouldn't think that's a cop, also the dude at the window is warning people.
edit: civil police is a possibility actually
Was just a question of time. We made our bed and now have to lie in it, sucks for the relatives of the victims. Will happen more often in the future.
What bed specifically are we talking about here?
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Do we know anything about the victims ?
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On July 23 2016 03:40 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 03:39 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 03:38 OtherWorld wrote:On July 23 2016 03:33 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 03:31 Dan HH wrote:On July 23 2016 03:29 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 03:24 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 03:22 sharkie wrote:
So will leftwings say this is just one crazy person again? Its weird, because you are the first one to ask what the right or left will say. You looking for a little internet drama to go with the horrific violence? No but I am sick of people saying this is a one time thing only. Of course this is horrible but we need to start doing stuff to stop this shit. What stuff would that be? Close off borders and start searching flats and houses and get rid of any weapons. My house is wide open for police to search, I got nothing to hide. and yes that would take ages, its still better than doing nothing ffs A knife can be a weapon, a truck can be a weapon, anything can be a weapon. Do we prevent people from having cutting objects and cars as well? Fine, guns. You happy? i prefer the remove kebab route. aint gonna give up my guns when they're around So you have guns because you are terrified of and feel the urge to shoot at grilled food? I wonder how crazy the inside of your head must be.
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On July 23 2016 04:36 JoeCool wrote:Apparantly these are policemen.
Very weird. Civilians who decided to come with their weapon when their hear about the attack maybe ?
On July 23 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:35 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 04:33 Djzapz wrote:On July 23 2016 04:30 NukeD wrote:
Its not all about economy growth. What happened to those good old fashion values on which we used to rely? Which old fashioned values? Christianity, working 80 hours a week, men work and women clean, switching crops every other season so the land doesn't get tired and other farming techniques, the fear of communism and nuclear fallout? I'm not one to be crazy for economy growth but the problem is when an economy stops growing in capitalism it doesn't just decline gently, it snaps and people go hungry. Closing borders is a sure way to make that happen unless you have a fertility rate above like 2.5, which afaik no one has in the west(?) Japanese are starving? o.o That's new to me Have have in and out of one of the longest recessions in human history. But I don't think they are "starving" on mass.
It's not a recession it's a stagnation, very different (the lost decade). And it's not the longest in history, by far.
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On July 23 2016 04:41 WhiteDog wrote:Very weird. Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 04:35 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 04:33 Djzapz wrote:On July 23 2016 04:30 NukeD wrote:
Its not all about economy growth. What happened to those good old fashion values on which we used to rely? Which old fashioned values? Christianity, working 80 hours a week, men work and women clean, switching crops every other season so the land doesn't get tired and other farming techniques, the fear of communism and nuclear fallout? I'm not one to be crazy for economy growth but the problem is when an economy stops growing in capitalism it doesn't just decline gently, it snaps and people go hungry. Closing borders is a sure way to make that happen unless you have a fertility rate above like 2.5, which afaik no one has in the west(?) Japanese are starving? o.o That's new to me Have have in and out of one of the longest recessions in human history. But I don't think they are "starving" on mass. It's not a recession it's a stagnation, very different (the lost decade). And it's not the longest in history, by far.
I should have said modern, IE, post WW2 for accuracy. And you are right that they are stagnant, rather than shrinking.
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Getting really sick and tired of this shit... The escalation of attacks have gone up crazy fast, it's like every week now. Something needs to be done this is bullshit.
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On July 23 2016 04:39 Godwrath wrote:
Do we know anything about the victims ?
Not yet, but there are six dead and one has recently died to his injuries. I'm not 100% sure if he counts as one of the six or if there are seven dead...
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On July 23 2016 04:41 WhiteDog wrote:Very weird. Civilians who decided to come with their weapon when their hear about the attack maybe ? Show nested quote +On July 23 2016 04:36 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2016 04:35 sharkie wrote:On July 23 2016 04:33 Djzapz wrote:On July 23 2016 04:30 NukeD wrote:
Its not all about economy growth. What happened to those good old fashion values on which we used to rely? Which old fashioned values? Christianity, working 80 hours a week, men work and women clean, switching crops every other season so the land doesn't get tired and other farming techniques, the fear of communism and nuclear fallout? I'm not one to be crazy for economy growth but the problem is when an economy stops growing in capitalism it doesn't just decline gently, it snaps and people go hungry. Closing borders is a sure way to make that happen unless you have a fertility rate above like 2.5, which afaik no one has in the west(?) Japanese are starving? o.o That's new to me Have have in and out of one of the longest recessions in human history. But I don't think they are "starving" on mass. It's not a recession it's a stagnation, very different (the lost decade). And it's not the longest in history, by far.
public TV also had some footage of police only in orange/yellowish warning wests and one guy in shorts. Just seems to be very low equipped police or whatever. But seems somewhat strange to have them run around in that situation, yes.
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On July 23 2016 04:16 Djzapz wrote:
The environment doesn't matter if we're not around :p. Anyway countries do various things to nudge people and get them to make babies, it's just a big decision that's difficult to influence with tax cuts and other shit. What is it, they say have a child costs $200,000 over the cost of 18 years or something? People know that more or less, so a $500 tax cut and a "national love day" that specifically says go out and fuck, it doesn't work that well.
Sadly, that's pretty much what happened in Poland recently - current ruling party promised everyone 500/month of support per child (which won them the election). Then they discovered that our economy can't take it, so they changed it that you get it from the second kid onwards (unless you're really poor, then you get it all). Now there are people earning twice my wage just from having many babies...
Anyway, people didn't suddenly start reproducing en-masse. What happened was that all of the sudden the orphanages were stormed when long lost biological parents miraculously appeared out of nowhere. Also, this programme is going to cost the country dearly since it has to pay up about 3 times as much money for what each of those children is estimated to bring back into the economy over the course of their lives. Check-mate dumb, populist politicians.
Edit: Back on topic...
I feel really sad for people who lost someone in this incident. Hope everything will clarify soon and perpetrators will be caught and dealt with.
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