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Once again, as this is a sensitive topic and one that can cause a lot of unnecessary things to be said in the heat of the moment, be VERY careful about what you post. Think twice before actually stating something and please be considerate of anyone who may feel involved or affected.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 17:03:15
July 15 2016 17:02 GMT
#261
On July 16 2016 01:53 Cowboy24 wrote:
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On July 16 2016 01:45 zlefin wrote:

cowboy -> the terrorists don't win throguh stuff like that; carrying on and living your lives means the terrorists lose. They have little actual power, only what they can inspire through fear. If you don't react to them, there's very little they can do beyond a relatively modest amount of damage.

Those are the platitudes I'm talking about. Living my life doesn't defeat terrorists. Especially because we all change our habits based on terrorism. We have a harder time getting on planes, or into events. We have to be more careful when we're in a crowd. We are less willing to discuss certain topics and less willing to trust foreigners.

And what have they lost? What political defeat has the radical Islamic suffered in the last decade? His numbers are growing, his support is growing, his friends are growing, and his enemies have capitulated.

If they kill one of us, and we don't kill two of them, they win.


There isn't an army that has a fixed size that we must defeat.

There's an idea, a concept, that we must defeat, and so far I've seen all the effort driven towards defeating an army.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 15 2016 17:12 GMT
#262
On July 16 2016 01:53 Cowboy24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 01:45 zlefin wrote:

cowboy -> the terrorists don't win throguh stuff like that; carrying on and living your lives means the terrorists lose. They have little actual power, only what they can inspire through fear. If you don't react to them, there's very little they can do beyond a relatively modest amount of damage.

Those are the platitudes I'm talking about. Living my life doesn't defeat terrorists. Especially because we all change our habits based on terrorism. We have a harder time getting on planes, or into events. We have to be more careful when we're in a crowd. We are less willing to discuss certain topics and less willing to trust foreigners.

And what have they lost? What political defeat has the radical Islamic suffered in the last decade? His numbers are growing, his support is growing, his friends are growing, and his enemies have capitulated.

If they kill one of us, and we don't kill two of them, they win.

The thing about blaming radical Islam is that those word do not translate to “terrorist Islam” when it reaches the Middle East. It just gets lumped it with Islam the religion, rather than terrorist that commit the acts.

This article talks about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/world/when-a-phrase-takes-on-new-meaning-radical-islam-explained.html

There have been numerous suggestions of what to call these terrorist to more accurately describe what they are to other Muslims. Like “radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists”, non that have the baggage of “radical Islam.” All of these are accurate, and more importantly, people. Not a vague idea that doesn’t translate to the other side as anything but “the west vs Every Muslim on the planet”.

You can't defeat radical Islamic any more than you can defeat "freedom".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 17:22:52
July 15 2016 17:20 GMT
#263
On July 16 2016 02:12 Plansix wrote:
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On July 16 2016 01:53 Cowboy24 wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:45 zlefin wrote:

cowboy -> the terrorists don't win throguh stuff like that; carrying on and living your lives means the terrorists lose. They have little actual power, only what they can inspire through fear. If you don't react to them, there's very little they can do beyond a relatively modest amount of damage.

Those are the platitudes I'm talking about. Living my life doesn't defeat terrorists. Especially because we all change our habits based on terrorism. We have a harder time getting on planes, or into events. We have to be more careful when we're in a crowd. We are less willing to discuss certain topics and less willing to trust foreigners.

And what have they lost? What political defeat has the radical Islamic suffered in the last decade? His numbers are growing, his support is growing, his friends are growing, and his enemies have capitulated.

If they kill one of us, and we don't kill two of them, they win.

The thing about blaming radical Islam is that those word do not translate to “terrorist Islam” when it reaches the Middle East. It just gets lumped it with Islam the religion, rather than terrorist that commit the acts.

This article talks about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/world/when-a-phrase-takes-on-new-meaning-radical-islam-explained.html

There have been numerous suggestions of what to call these terrorist to more accurately describe what they are to other Muslims. Like “radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists”, non that have the baggage of “radical Islam.” All of these are accurate, and more importantly, people. Not a vague idea that doesn’t translate to the other side as anything but “the west vs Every Muslim on the planet”.

You can't defeat radical Islamic any more than you can defeat "freedom".

You can defeat the people that actually promote and defend that ideology tho. There are clear topic that the west should not accept anymore - rights for women, apostates, the right to have another or no religion, the refusal of any distinction between who is and who is not a muslim (the "kufar" and all that bullshit).
Altho I'm not sure why is it that we talk about religion when this guy seems not to be a practician.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 15 2016 17:27 GMT
#264
On July 16 2016 02:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:12 Plansix wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:53 Cowboy24 wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:45 zlefin wrote:

cowboy -> the terrorists don't win throguh stuff like that; carrying on and living your lives means the terrorists lose. They have little actual power, only what they can inspire through fear. If you don't react to them, there's very little they can do beyond a relatively modest amount of damage.

Those are the platitudes I'm talking about. Living my life doesn't defeat terrorists. Especially because we all change our habits based on terrorism. We have a harder time getting on planes, or into events. We have to be more careful when we're in a crowd. We are less willing to discuss certain topics and less willing to trust foreigners.

And what have they lost? What political defeat has the radical Islamic suffered in the last decade? His numbers are growing, his support is growing, his friends are growing, and his enemies have capitulated.

If they kill one of us, and we don't kill two of them, they win.

The thing about blaming radical Islam is that those word do not translate to “terrorist Islam” when it reaches the Middle East. It just gets lumped it with Islam the religion, rather than terrorist that commit the acts.

This article talks about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/world/when-a-phrase-takes-on-new-meaning-radical-islam-explained.html

There have been numerous suggestions of what to call these terrorist to more accurately describe what they are to other Muslims. Like “radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists”, non that have the baggage of “radical Islam.” All of these are accurate, and more importantly, people. Not a vague idea that doesn’t translate to the other side as anything but “the west vs Every Muslim on the planet”.

You can't defeat radical Islamic any more than you can defeat "freedom".

You can defeat the people that actually promote and defend that ideology tho. There are clear topic that the west should not accept anymore - rights for women, apostates, the right to have another or no religion, the refusal of any distinction between who is and who is not a muslim (the "kufar" and all that bullshit).
Altho I'm not sure why is it that we talk about religion when this guy seems not to be a practician.

But that isn’t the same thing. You defeated radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists or whatever you want to call them. Nothing happened to the vague idea of radical Islam. It will always exist.

The entire issue is about communication. Radical Islam the term you use when talking to Muslims in the Middle East to fight terrorism. All the intelligence agencies that deal with Middle East have said this. But if we say we are against Islamic Extremists, the middle east knows exactly who we are talking about.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9190 Posts
July 15 2016 17:27 GMT
#265
You can't defeat radical islam but you can suppress it just like you can suppress fascism and communism.
You're now breathing manually
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 15 2016 17:29 GMT
#266
On July 16 2016 01:14 endy wrote:
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On July 16 2016 00:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
-27% of population (not muslims only) aged 18-24 in France have a "Positive Attitude towards ISIS".


No fucking way.

This is a bullshit poll by a shady Russian agency. Also claimed 16% of French citizen are in favor of ISIS, but how would that make any fucking sense?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 15 2016 17:33 GMT
#267
On July 16 2016 02:27 Sent. wrote:
You can't defeat radical islam but you can suppress it just like you can suppress fascism and communism.

It is about as obtainable a goal as waging a war on drugs or crime.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 15 2016 17:36 GMT
#268
All wars are winnable. People aren't just willing to see it through.

Singapore won the war on drugs and crime I'd say.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12169 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 17:43:40
July 15 2016 17:38 GMT
#269
On July 16 2016 00:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
-27% of population (not muslims only) aged 18-24 in France have a "Positive Attitude towards ISIS".


Didn't that strike you as a stat that you shouldn't trust?
No will to live, no wish to die
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 15 2016 17:41 GMT
#270
Please don't give me an excuse to post a library of damning stats. + Show Spoiler +
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"Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is their destination."
- Quran 9:73
Have you heard that Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.
In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined.
The following polls convey what Muslims say are their attitudes toward terrorism, al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the 9/11 attacks, violence in defense of Islam, Sharia, honor killings, and matters concerning assimilation in Western society. The results are all the more astonishing because most of the polls were conducted by organizations with an obvious interest in "discovering" agreeable statistics that downplay any cause for concern.
(These have been compiled over the years, so not all links remain active.)
Terrorism

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45. http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/living apart together - jan 07.pdf
People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq. http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children: http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/ http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Indonesians approve of attacks on American troops. 26% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on American troops. 68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops. 90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops. 72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops. 52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose) A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on American troops. About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
World Public Opinion (2009): 30% of Palestinians support attacks on American civilians working in Muslim countries. 24% support the murder of Americans on U.S. soil. Only 74% of Turks and 55% of Pakistanis disapprove of terror attacks against civilians on U.S. soil. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah 30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah 45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative) 43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative). 49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative) 49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative) 39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative) http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. 34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified. http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable". http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall). 42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall). 22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall). 29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall). http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never). 28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never). http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
27% of British Muslims do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified. 37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target". http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
World Public Opinion: Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/727.php?nid=&id=&pnt=727
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say. http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam". http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/
Palestinian Center for Political Research (2015): 74% of Palestinians support Hamas terror attacks. http://www.timesofisrael.com/support-for-hamas-skyrockets-following-war-poll-shows/
Pew Research (2014): 47% of Bangladeshi Muslims says suicide bombings and violence are justified to "defend Islam". 1 in 4 believed the same in Tanzania and Egypt. 1 in 5 Muslims in the 'moderate' countries of Turkey and Malaysia. http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 19% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified in order to make Sharia the law in the United States (66% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 25% of Muslim-Americans say that violence against Americans in the United States is justified as part of the "global Jihad (64% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6758207/1-in-5-British-Muslims-have-sympathy-for-jihadis-in-poll.html
ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4730825.ece
See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.
al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and Islamic State (ISIS)

Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds). Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright. http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf
Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds). http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda. http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/al-jazeera-arabic-poll-49-9-support-osama-bin-laden.712/
Pew Research: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003 41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007 56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003 http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/15/iran-terrorism-al-qaida-islam-opinions-columnists-ilan-berman.html
Pew Global: 51% of Palestinians support Osama bin Laden 54% of Muslim Nigerians Support Osama bin Laden http://pewglobal.org/files/pdf/268.pdf
MacDonald Laurier Institute: 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/
World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law. Muslim majorities agree with al-Qaeda goal of keeping Western values out of Islamic countries; (Egypt: 88%; Indonesia 76%; Pakistan 60%; Morocco 64%) http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
World Public Opinion: Attitude toward Osama bin Laden: Egypt: 44% positive, 17% negative, and 25% mixed feelings Indonesia: 14% positive, 26% negative, 21% mixed feelings (39% did not answer) Pakistan: 25% positive, 15% negative, 26% mixed feelings (34% did not answer) Morocco: 27% positive, 21% negative, 26% mixed feelings Jordanians, Palestinians, Turks and Azerbaijanis. Jordanians combined for: 27% positive, 20 percent negative, and 27 percent mixed feelings. (Palestinians 56% positive, 20% negative, 22 percent mixed feelings). http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 49% of Nigerian Muslims have favorable view of al-Qaeda (34% unfavorable) 23% of Indonesians have favorable view of al-Qaeda (56% unfavorable) 34% of Jordanians have favorable view of al-Qaeda 25% of Indonesians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden (59% had confidence in 2003) 1 in 5 Egyptians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2011): 22% of Indonesians have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (21% unfavorable) http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Gallup: 51% of Pakistanis grieve Osama bin Laden (only 11% happy over death) 44% of Pakistanis viewed Osama bin Laden as a martyr (only 28% as an oulaw) http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/majority_of_our_pakistani_alli.html
Zogby International 2011: “Majorities in all six countries said they viewed the United States less favorably following the killing of the Al-Qaeda head [Osama bin Laden] in Pakistan” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/arab-worlds-views-of-us-president-obama-increasingly-negative-new-poll-finds/2011/07/12/gIQASzHVBI_blog.html
Populus Survey: 18% of British Muslims would be proud or indifferent if a family member joined al-Qaeda. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Policy Exchange (2006): 7% Muslims in Britain admire al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Informal poll of Saudis in August 2014 shows 92% agree that Islamic State (ISIS) "conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law." http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/
Hurriyet Daily News / Metropoll (2015): 20% of Turks support the slaughter of Charlie Hebdo staffers and cartoonists. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/metropoll-42-turkish-public-believe-muslims-are-real-victims-charlie-hebdo-attack-1486355
al-Jazeera Poll (2015): 81% of respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS). http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/05/25/shock-poll-81-of-al-jazeera-arabic-poll-respondents-support-isis/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 33% of Muslim-Americans say al-Qaeda beliefs are Islamic or correct. (49% disagree), http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 38% of Muslim-Americans say Islamic State (ISIS) beliefs are Islamic or correct. (43% disagree), http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015: 1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half the total population. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muslim-leader-isis-supporting-brits-disenfranchised-6018357
Clarion Project Study (2015): 11.5% of Arabs support ISIS, or about 42 million. http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/isis-has-least-42-million-supporters-arab-world
Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015): Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians. http://www.france24.com/en/20151214-two-thirds-palestinians-support-knife-attacks-poll
Social Trends Survey (2016): 21% of Turks says ISIS 'represents Islam"; 10% would not categorize it as a terrorist organization. http://www.trust.org/item/20160112154230-7c2sb/
ICM (2014): 16% of all French Muslims support ISIS, including 27% of those aged 18-24. http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795
al-Jazeera Website Survey (2015): 81% of respondents approve of "regional conquests: by ISIS. http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/05/25/al-jazeera-survey-shows-81-percent-support-islamic-state/#
9/11 Attacks

al-Arabiya: 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html
Gallup: 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially") http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2008/05/that-tiny-percentage-of-radical-muslims.html
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC06.php?CID=1154
Pew Research (2011): Large majorities of Muslims believe in 9/11 conspiracy http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2066/muslims-westerners-christians-jews-islamic-extremism-september-11
Violence in Defense of Islam

Jakarta Post (2006): 40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam. http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/07/40-of-indonesians-would-wage-war-for-islam
Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. 7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified. http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)
Center for Social Cohesion: One Third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam (Wikileaks cable) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
NOP Research: Hardcore Islamists comprise 9% of Britain's Muslim population; Another 29% would "aggressively defend" Islam; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
Pew Research (2010): 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam 86% of Jordanian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam 30% of Indonesian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam 76% of Pakistanis support death the penalty for leaving Islam 51% of Nigerian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for religious or political ends acceptable. http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
BBC (2007): 36% of younger Muslims in the UK believe a Muslim should be killed for converting to another religion (19% of those over 55 agree). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm
Terrorism Research Institute Study: 51% of mosques in the U.S. have texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% have texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% have no violent texts at all. http://www.terrorismanalysts.com/pt/index.php/pot/article/view/sharia-adherence-mosque-survey/html
Pew Research (2013): 76% of South Asian Muslims and 56% of Egyptians advocate killing anyone who leaves the Islamic religion. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 19% of Muslim Americans believe suicide bombings in defense of Islam are at least partially justified (global average is 28% in countries surveyed). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 39% of Muslims in Malaysia say suicide bombings "justified" in defense of Islam (only 58% say 'never'). http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/extremism-in-the-name-of-islam-and-malaysian-muslims-joshua-woo
Die Presse (2013): 1 in 5 Muslims in Austria believe that anyone wanting to leave Islam should be killed. http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/survey-on-islam-in-austria-18-of-muslims-support-death-sentence-for-apostasy-21-9-oppose-democracy/
Motivaction Survey (2014): 80% of young Dutch Muslims see nothing wrong with Holy War against non-believers. Most verbalized support for pro-Islamic State fighters. http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/11/young-dutch-turks-radical-views-worry-mps-call-for-more-research/
BBC (2015): Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, 27% of British Muslims openly support violence against cartoonists. Another 8% would not say, meaning that only 2 of 3 surveyed would say that the killings were not justified.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31293196
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 24% of Muslim-Americans say that violence is justified against those who "offend Islam" (60% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 29% of Muslim-Americans agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Quran is acceptable (61% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
Pew Research (2015): 40% of Palestinians, 39% in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt and 26% of Muslims in Bangladesh agree that violence against civilians in defense of Islam is sometimes justified. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/07/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America says suicide bombings and other violence against civilians in defense of Islam is sometimes or often justified. 81% say it is never justified. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-app-a/
Arab Observatory of Religions and Freedom (2016) Only 39% in Egypt condemn religious extremism. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/10/survey-reveals-aggressive-pro-sharia-attitudes-in-countries-providing-major-source-of-eu-migrants/
Sharia

83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers 78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates http://www.realcourage.org/2009/08/pakistan-78-percent-call-for-apostate-deaths/
Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam; http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory) http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/
BBC (2007): 28% of Muslims in the UK prefer Sharia (37% for those younger). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm
World Public Opinion: 81% of Egyptians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 76% of Pakistanis want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 49% (plurality) of Indonesians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country 76% of Moroccans want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf World Public Opinion: 64% of Egyptians said it was “very important for the government” to “apply traditional punishments for crimes such as stoning adulterers.” http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 77% of Egyptian Muslims favor floggings and amputation 58% of Jordanian Muslims favor floggings and amputation 36% of Indonesian Muslims favor floggings and amputation 82% of Pakistanis favor floggings and amputation 65% of Nigerian Muslims favor floggings and amputation http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers 70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers 42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers 82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers 56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2013): 72% of Indonesians want Sharia to be law of the land http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/seventy-two-percent-of-indonesians-favor-shariah-law-pew-forum/
Pew Research (2013): 81% of South Asian Muslims and 57% of Egyptians suport amputating limbs for theft. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): According to an interpretation of this study, approximately 45% of Sharia supporters surveyed disagreed with the idea that Islamic law should apply only to Muslims. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Economist (Pew 2013): 74% who favor Islamic law in Egypt say it should apply to non-Muslims as well. http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/04/daily-chart-20?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/Shariadolikeit
WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism
FPO (2014): 43% of Islamic teachers in Austria openly advocate Sharia law over democracy. http://rt.com/news/208387-austria-islam-kindergarten-muslim/
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 33% of Muslim-Americans say that Sharia should be supreme to the US Constitution (43% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 51% of Muslim-Americans say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by Sharia courts rather than courts of the United States (39% disagree). http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150612-CSP-Polling-Company-Nationwide-Online-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf
2015 (Jyllands Posten): 77% of Muslims in Denmark believe the Quran's instructions should be 'fully appied'. http://www.thelocal.dk/20151013/danish-muslims-more-devout-than-in-years-past
2015 (Jyllands Postn): Only 53% of Danish Muslims believe Danish law should be based on the consitution and not the Quran. http://www.thelocal.dk/20151019/forty-percent-danish-muslims-wants-quran-based-laws
ICM Poll (2016): 23% of British Muslim support the introduction of Sharia in the UK "instead of British Law" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532355/More-half-Muslims-want-gay-sex-outlawed-nearly-quarter-support-areas-UK-run-sharia-law.html
ICM Poll (2016): 21% of British Muslims decline to condemn stoning adulterers (5% openly support them). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532355/More-half-Muslims-want-gay-sex-outlawed-nearly-quarter-support-areas-UK-run-sharia-law.html
Pew Research (2016): A majority of Muslims in 10 countries favor basing laws on the Quran (inc. Pakistan, Pal. Auth, Malaysia, Jordan, Senegal, Nigeria, Indonesia, Lebanon and Turkey). Educated Muslims also favored Sharia, including 55% in 'secular Turkey'. http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/04/27/the-divide-over-islam-and-national-laws-in-the-muslim-world/ http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/04/majority_of_educated_muslims_abroad_still_favor _imposition_of_sharia_law.html
Arab Observatory of Religions and Freedom (2016): 79% of Libyans believe Sharia should be the sole source of legislation, as do 63% in Algeria and 60% in Morocco. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/10/survey-reveals-aggressive-pro-sharia-attitudes-in-countries-providing-major-source-of-eu-migrants/
Honor Killings

Turkish Ministry of Education: 1 in 4 Turks Support Honor Killings http://www.realcourage.org/2009/03/turkey-war-on-women/
Civitas: 1 in 3 Muslims in the UK strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obey her husband's bidding http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor". http://www.expressandstar.com/blogs/peter-rhodes/2011/12/28/honour-killing-–-a-stain-on-our-nation/
Middle East Quarterly: 91 percent of honor killings are committed by Muslims worldwide. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43207
95% of honor killings in the West are perpetrated by Muslim fathers and brothers or their proxies. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/09/21/barbara-kay-continue-calling-honour-killings-by-its-rightful-name/
A survey of Muslim women in Paris suburbs found that three-quarters of them wear their masks out of fear - including fear of violence. http://www.torontosun.com/2011/12/12/muslim-women-win
1 in 5 young British Muslims agree that 'honor' violence is acceptable. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117003/More-thirds-young-British-Muslims-believe-honour-violence-acceptable-survey-reveals.html
Pew Research (2013): Large majorities of Muslims favor Sharia. Among those who do, stoning women for adultery is favored by 89% in Pakistanis, 85% in Afghanistan, 81% in Egypt, 67% in Jordan, ~50% in 'moderate' Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand, 58% in Iraq, 44% in Tunisia, 29% in Turkey, and 26% in Russia. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): Honor killing the woman for sex outside of marriage is favored over honor killing the man in almost every Islamic country. Over half of Muslims surveyed believed that honor killings over sex were at least partially justified. http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
(2013) Jordanian teens support honor killing. http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/world/meast/jordan-honor-crimes-study/
Pew Research (2011): 40% of Pakistanis says that killing a woman for family honor is often or sometimes justified. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/four-in-ten-pakistanis-say-honor-killing-of-women-can-be-at-least-sometimes-justified/
Assimilation

Muslims have highest claimed disability rates in the UK (24% of men, 21% of women) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
Pakistani Muslims in the UK are four times more likely to be unemployed than Hindus. Indian Muslims are twice as likely to be unemployed as Indian Hindus. http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/feb/20/race.immigrationpolicy&date=2012-12-05
Policy Exchange: 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust; Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened. http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SURVEY/Site Download.pdf http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
Policy Exchange: 51% of British Muslims believe a woman cannot marry a non-Muslim Only 51% believe a Muslim woman may marry without a guardian's consent http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
Policy Exchange: Up to 52% of British Muslims believe a Muslim man is entitled to up to four wives http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf
Policy Exchange: 61% of British Muslims want homosexuality punished http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech; Only 3% adopt a "consistently pro-freedom of speech line" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY
ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Pew Global (2006): Only 7% of British Muslims think of themselves as British first (81% say 'Muslim' rather than 'Briton') http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/254.pdf
Policy Exchange (2006): 31% Muslims in Britain identify more with Muslims in other countries than with non-Muslim Brits. http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/living apart together - jan 07.pdf
BBC (2007) 74% of young Muslims prefer women wear the veil (compared to 28% of those over 55). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm
Die Welt (2012): 46% of Muslims in Germany hope there will eventually be more Muslims than Christians in Germany. http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article108659406/Tuerkische-Migranten-hoffen-auf-muslimische-Mehrheit.html
Ipsos MORI: Muslims are 3 times as likely as Christians to believe that their religion is the only way. http://www.christiantoday.com/article/religion.still.matters.global.survey.finds/28257.htm
Pew Research (2011): Muslim-Americans four times more likely to say that women should not work outside the home. http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-5-political-opinions-and-social-values/
Pew Research (2007): 26% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (43% support assimilation) http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf
Pew Research (2011): 20% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (56% support assimilation) http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2011): 49% of Muslim-Americans say they are "Muslim first" (26% American first) http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/
Pew Research (2011): 21% of Muslim-Americans say there is a fair to great amount of support for Islamic extremism in their community. http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-6-terrorism-concerns-about-extremism-foreign-policy/
ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for political ends acceptable http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
Wenzel Strategies (2012): 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment. 45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not). 12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death. 43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims. 32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land. http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression/
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/10/poll-nearly-half-of-us-muslims-believe.html
Pew Research (2013): "At least half' of Muslims surveyed believed polygamy is morally acceptable. "Muslims in most countries surveyed say that a wife should always obey her husband." (including 93% in Indonesia and 65% in Turkey). Only 32% of Muslims in Indonesia say a woman should have the right to divorce her husband (22% in Egypt, 26% in Pakistan and 60% in Russia). http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf
Die Presse (2013): 1 in 3 Muslims in Austria say it is not possible to be a European and a Muslim. 22% oppose democracy http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/survey-on-islam-in-austria-18-of-muslims-support-death-sentence-for-apostasy-21-9-oppose-democracy/
WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 45% of Muslims in Europe say Jews cannot be trusted. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism
Vancouver Sun (2015): 42% of Canadian Muslims agree that Islam is "irreconcilable" with the West. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193969
Anti-Defamation League (2015): 55% of Muslims in Europe are anti-Semitic - approximately three times higher than Europeans in general. http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/06/30/adl-poll-shows-more-than-half-of-western-european-muslims-harbor-antisemitic-beliefs/#
Middle East Forum (2015): Muslims comprise less than 1% of the population in the United States but 9% of prison inmates. http://www.meforum.org/blog/2015/08/islam-prison
Middle East Forum (2015): Muslims in France comprise 12% of the population, but 70% of prisoners. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html
Middle East Forum (2015): Muslims in the Netherlands comprise 4% of the population but 20% of prisoners. Muslims in France comprise 10% of the population, but 70% of prisoners. http://www.meforum.org/blog/2015/08/islam-prison 2015 (BBChttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31794599
2016 (Sun News): Muslims comprise 5% of population in Britain but 20% of High Security inmates http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6884172/One-in-five-danger-lags-is-a-muslim.html
ICM Poll (2016): 31% of British Muslims believe polygamy is acceptable. 18% believe homosexuality should remain legal. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3532355/More-half-Muslims-want-gay-sex-outlawed-nearly-quarter-support-areas-UK-run-sharia-law.html
35% of prisoners in Belgium are Muslim, compared with 6% of the general population. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36348389
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 15 2016 17:41 GMT
#271
On July 16 2016 02:38 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 00:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
-27% of population (not muslims only) aged 18-24 in France have a "Positive Attitude towards ISIS".


Didn't that struck you as a stat that you shouldn't trust?


Nah, the video said in big letters "Truth". How would you doubt that? And judging from GoTunks posts, the truth is his only source of information.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
July 15 2016 17:42 GMT
#272
On July 16 2016 01:54 Godwrath wrote:
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On July 16 2016 01:40 NukeD wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:36 Godwrath wrote:
This is sad. Its sad because more than 80 people lost their lives, and some more may die. And yet, people everywhere had already writen the narrative. Terrorist attack, full spot, now it's trying to shoehorning this as a ISIS attack, rather than trying to give an honest answer to its citizens and families of the victims.

Seriously, the media didn't even know the identity of the attacker or any proof, and it was already written. We used to mock Fox news and the like for this shit, and now we just take it for granted.

Theres nothing wrong with assuming this was a terrorist attack giving the political climate in the world and previous attacks.

There were no assumptions. They were outright claims of it being a terrorist attack.

And yet we do not really know what happened yet. I don't know, maybe asking questions instead of jumping straight into the answer you desire might be more useful.

Answer I desire? Please enlighten me.
sorry for dem one liners
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 15 2016 17:42 GMT
#273
On July 16 2016 02:36 SK.Testie wrote:
All wars are winnable. People aren't just willing to see it through.

Singapore won the war on drugs and crime I'd say.

Not really, wars against ideas or vague ever expanding enemies are propaganda by people who don’t have real solutions. No one wins a war on drugs or crime. Its not a war. Those phrases were coined by Nixon to create a politically viable way for them to attack his perceived opposition.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 17:47:03
July 15 2016 17:44 GMT
#274
On July 16 2016 02:27 Plansix wrote:
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On July 16 2016 02:20 WhiteDog wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:12 Plansix wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:53 Cowboy24 wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:45 zlefin wrote:

cowboy -> the terrorists don't win throguh stuff like that; carrying on and living your lives means the terrorists lose. They have little actual power, only what they can inspire through fear. If you don't react to them, there's very little they can do beyond a relatively modest amount of damage.

Those are the platitudes I'm talking about. Living my life doesn't defeat terrorists. Especially because we all change our habits based on terrorism. We have a harder time getting on planes, or into events. We have to be more careful when we're in a crowd. We are less willing to discuss certain topics and less willing to trust foreigners.

And what have they lost? What political defeat has the radical Islamic suffered in the last decade? His numbers are growing, his support is growing, his friends are growing, and his enemies have capitulated.

If they kill one of us, and we don't kill two of them, they win.

The thing about blaming radical Islam is that those word do not translate to “terrorist Islam” when it reaches the Middle East. It just gets lumped it with Islam the religion, rather than terrorist that commit the acts.

This article talks about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/world/when-a-phrase-takes-on-new-meaning-radical-islam-explained.html

There have been numerous suggestions of what to call these terrorist to more accurately describe what they are to other Muslims. Like “radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists”, non that have the baggage of “radical Islam.” All of these are accurate, and more importantly, people. Not a vague idea that doesn’t translate to the other side as anything but “the west vs Every Muslim on the planet”.

You can't defeat radical Islamic any more than you can defeat "freedom".

You can defeat the people that actually promote and defend that ideology tho. There are clear topic that the west should not accept anymore - rights for women, apostates, the right to have another or no religion, the refusal of any distinction between who is and who is not a muslim (the "kufar" and all that bullshit).
Altho I'm not sure why is it that we talk about religion when this guy seems not to be a practician.

But that isn’t the same thing. You defeated radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists or whatever you want to call them. Nothing happened to the vague idea of radical Islam. It will always exist.

The entire issue is about communication. Radical Islam the term you use when talking to Muslims in the Middle East to fight terrorism. All the intelligence agencies that deal with Middle East have said this. But if we say we are against Islamic Extremists, the middle east knows exactly who we are talking about.


'Islam' in the middle east is hard to distinguish from 'radical Islam' in Europe. Just go to the middle east and ask them what they think about Jews.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 15 2016 17:49 GMT
#275
News that is more relevant to the topic at hand though. Well, I think Islam is relevant and I'll always be the first one to get banned for it but I'll hold that conversation on my end for now.

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Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
July 15 2016 17:49 GMT
#276
On July 16 2016 02:44 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:27 Plansix wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:20 WhiteDog wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:12 Plansix wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:53 Cowboy24 wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:45 zlefin wrote:

cowboy -> the terrorists don't win throguh stuff like that; carrying on and living your lives means the terrorists lose. They have little actual power, only what they can inspire through fear. If you don't react to them, there's very little they can do beyond a relatively modest amount of damage.

Those are the platitudes I'm talking about. Living my life doesn't defeat terrorists. Especially because we all change our habits based on terrorism. We have a harder time getting on planes, or into events. We have to be more careful when we're in a crowd. We are less willing to discuss certain topics and less willing to trust foreigners.

And what have they lost? What political defeat has the radical Islamic suffered in the last decade? His numbers are growing, his support is growing, his friends are growing, and his enemies have capitulated.

If they kill one of us, and we don't kill two of them, they win.

The thing about blaming radical Islam is that those word do not translate to “terrorist Islam” when it reaches the Middle East. It just gets lumped it with Islam the religion, rather than terrorist that commit the acts.

This article talks about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/world/when-a-phrase-takes-on-new-meaning-radical-islam-explained.html

There have been numerous suggestions of what to call these terrorist to more accurately describe what they are to other Muslims. Like “radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists”, non that have the baggage of “radical Islam.” All of these are accurate, and more importantly, people. Not a vague idea that doesn’t translate to the other side as anything but “the west vs Every Muslim on the planet”.

You can't defeat radical Islamic any more than you can defeat "freedom".

You can defeat the people that actually promote and defend that ideology tho. There are clear topic that the west should not accept anymore - rights for women, apostates, the right to have another or no religion, the refusal of any distinction between who is and who is not a muslim (the "kufar" and all that bullshit).
Altho I'm not sure why is it that we talk about religion when this guy seems not to be a practician.

But that isn’t the same thing. You defeated radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists or whatever you want to call them. Nothing happened to the vague idea of radical Islam. It will always exist.

The entire issue is about communication. Radical Islam the term you use when talking to Muslims in the Middle East to fight terrorism. All the intelligence agencies that deal with Middle East have said this. But if we say we are against Islamic Extremists, the middle east knows exactly who we are talking about.


'Islam' in the middle east is hard to distinguish from 'radical Islam' in Europe. Just go to the middle east and ask them what they think about Jews.

Why are these people even coming to Europe if they despise all our values?
sorry for dem one liners
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 15 2016 17:57 GMT
#277
On July 16 2016 02:49 SK.Testie wrote:
News that is more relevant to the topic at hand though. Well, I think Islam is relevant and I'll always be the first one to get banned for it but I'll hold that conversation on my end for now.

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How "intensify bordercontrols" turns into "re-imposing bordercontrols"... High quality media.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:07:32
July 15 2016 18:01 GMT
#278
On July 16 2016 02:57 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:49 SK.Testie wrote:
News that is more relevant to the topic at hand though. Well, I think Islam is relevant and I'll always be the first one to get banned for it but I'll hold that conversation on my end for now.

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How "intensify bordercontrols" turns into "re-imposing bordercontrols"... High quality media.

Well the twitter account is just a “news site” which seems to mostly copy-paste stories from other parts so of the internet and take credit for them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:10:46
July 15 2016 18:07 GMT
#279
On July 16 2016 02:49 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:44 bardtown wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:27 Plansix wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:20 WhiteDog wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:12 Plansix wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:53 Cowboy24 wrote:
On July 16 2016 01:45 zlefin wrote:

cowboy -> the terrorists don't win throguh stuff like that; carrying on and living your lives means the terrorists lose. They have little actual power, only what they can inspire through fear. If you don't react to them, there's very little they can do beyond a relatively modest amount of damage.

Those are the platitudes I'm talking about. Living my life doesn't defeat terrorists. Especially because we all change our habits based on terrorism. We have a harder time getting on planes, or into events. We have to be more careful when we're in a crowd. We are less willing to discuss certain topics and less willing to trust foreigners.

And what have they lost? What political defeat has the radical Islamic suffered in the last decade? His numbers are growing, his support is growing, his friends are growing, and his enemies have capitulated.

If they kill one of us, and we don't kill two of them, they win.

The thing about blaming radical Islam is that those word do not translate to “terrorist Islam” when it reaches the Middle East. It just gets lumped it with Islam the religion, rather than terrorist that commit the acts.

This article talks about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/world/when-a-phrase-takes-on-new-meaning-radical-islam-explained.html

There have been numerous suggestions of what to call these terrorist to more accurately describe what they are to other Muslims. Like “radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists”, non that have the baggage of “radical Islam.” All of these are accurate, and more importantly, people. Not a vague idea that doesn’t translate to the other side as anything but “the west vs Every Muslim on the planet”.

You can't defeat radical Islamic any more than you can defeat "freedom".

You can defeat the people that actually promote and defend that ideology tho. There are clear topic that the west should not accept anymore - rights for women, apostates, the right to have another or no religion, the refusal of any distinction between who is and who is not a muslim (the "kufar" and all that bullshit).
Altho I'm not sure why is it that we talk about religion when this guy seems not to be a practician.

But that isn’t the same thing. You defeated radical jihadists, Salafis, Islamist extremists, jihadis, jihadi-Salafists or whatever you want to call them. Nothing happened to the vague idea of radical Islam. It will always exist.

The entire issue is about communication. Radical Islam the term you use when talking to Muslims in the Middle East to fight terrorism. All the intelligence agencies that deal with Middle East have said this. But if we say we are against Islamic Extremists, the middle east knows exactly who we are talking about.


'Islam' in the middle east is hard to distinguish from 'radical Islam' in Europe. Just go to the middle east and ask them what they think about Jews.

Why are these people even coming to Europe if they despise all our values?


No one may ever know.
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Granted, if anyone is to receive welfare it should be refugees. However, considering the number of children some of them have they are never able to leave welfare. So many stay on for life. Which kind of sucks.

It sucks more because Belgiums prison population is 35% Muslim. France's is 70% Muslim. To France's credit, some of them do get radicalized in prison.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7886 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:17:34
July 15 2016 18:12 GMT
#280
What I learnt from this thread :

1- People don't give a damn about the fact that the guy was basically not religious. It's about islam and it's all because islam is inherently evil (oh that's clever...)

2- People are absolutely certain that it's a terrorist attack just like the Bataclan. It could, for what we know, be a mass murder from a mentally unstable guy vaguely inspired by ISIS. Just like there are mass shootings in the united state. Fact is it could be, and we don't know.

3- Our right wing team seems to completely disregard the fact that ISIS claims that its goal with those attacks is to mount muslims and non muslims against each other because that's how they recruit. They said it. But our beloved TL far right boys have no problem playing ISIS game and being the useful idiots of islamist terrorists.

I lived in France for twenty years, I have an uncle and three cousin who are culturally muslim, my parents were friends of a muslim syrian writer who got the Goncourt prize, all people who are good hearted, generous, see in Islam a source of wisdom and peace, and so in my eyes those racist fantasies of yours about evil islam and bloodthirsty muslims are just fucking sad.


Anyway. If that display of hatred and biggotry is all those attacks inspire people, there is little to hope for.

For the polish guy who talk about suppressing islam, what about suppressing christianity because of christian fundamentalist nutcases in the states, or the general biggotry, backward ideas about women and gays it inspires to people in, for example, Poland.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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