EPTmulcair support dropped 17% in quebec didnt it?
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CorsairHero
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mulcair support dropped 17% in quebec didnt it? | ||
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CorsairHero
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BuddhaMonk
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On October 20 2015 12:42 CorsairHero wrote: mulcair support dropped 17% in quebec didnt it? I think it hurt them a bit, but most of the Quebec NDP votes went to the Liberals, whose position on the issue wasn't much different. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On October 20 2015 12:48 CorsairHero wrote: Harper is resigning as leader. Good riddance. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
On October 20 2015 12:48 CorsairHero wrote: Harper is resigning as leader. Thank the Canadian Gods. | ||
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Impervious
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Now we have a Liberal government which managed to get 60% of the seats with 40% of the votes. I expect them to also pass a bunch of legislation over the next few years that will piss a lot of people off. I hope I'm wrong though. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16710 Posts
On October 20 2015 12:32 BuddhaMonk wrote: Quebec plays kingmaker. Mulcair needed to have run a campaign as if he had 30 seats, instead he ran a campaign that assumed Quebec was his. He should have known better. People will give a lot of credit to Trudeau and his campaign and what not, but really Quebec voters were just waiting to see which anti-Harper wind was gaining strength before they jumped on board. Ontario plays kingmaker every election 73 seats ( out of 106 in 2011) for the PCs last election.. right now 79 seats for the grits in this election.... i could list the last 10 elections but i'm too lazy. as long as quebec elects guys who are part of a single province party it'll never be "kingmaker". | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On October 20 2015 13:04 Impervious wrote: A few years ago, the Conservatives managed to get 60% of the seats with 40% of the votes. They managed to pass a bunch of legislation in that time that pissed a lot of people off. Now we have a Liberal government which managed to get 60% of the seats with 40% of the votes. I expect them to also pass a bunch of legislation over the next few years that will piss a lot of people off. I hope I'm wrong though. While I'm generally pleased with a Liberal government, the system needs to change. You shouldn't be able to win a majority government when the actual votes don't represent it. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Just have to see if they stand by it. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On October 20 2015 13:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: While I'm generally pleased with a Liberal government, the system needs to change. You shouldn't be able to win a majority government when the actual votes don't represent it. The Liberals did promise to get rid of the first-past-the-post system (the NDP did too), though they didn't say what they were going to replace it with, so hopefully we'll be rid of fucking FPTP soon. | ||
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Xafnia
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BuddhaMonk
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On October 20 2015 13:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Ontario plays kingmaker every election 73 seats ( out of 106 in 2011) for the PCs last election.. right now 79 seats for the grits in this election.... i could list the last 10 elections but i'm too lazy. as long as quebec elects guys who are part of a single province party it'll never be "kingmaker". If Quebec stayed NDP, it's not clear that the Liberals would even win a minority. It is true that Ontario grew for the Liberals at least as much as in Quebec. So in that respect I suppose Quebec and Ontario are together always kingmakers (such as it is when you control 60% of the ridings). But please, can you dispense with the anti-Quebec rhetoric? It's especially tiring, given that it's been two elections in a row where BQ has been relegated to less than official party status, including not electing Duceppe twice now, not to mention throwing the PQ out provincially. Your original point is perhaps correct, but I'm sick and tired of the attitude that your comment reflects. There are many federalist, anglophone, patriotic Canadians in Quebec, and it's very disheartening to hear people insulting us instead of supporting us. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16710 Posts
the PCs won a giant bucket of seats in the last election in Ontario and formed the government. the Liberals won a giant bucket of seats in Ontario and formed the government. this election 10 seats went to a party with 0 chance of forming a government or "being king" as ur analogy goes. | ||
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Rebs
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On October 20 2015 13:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Ontario plays kingmaker every election 73 seats ( out of 106 in 2011) for the PCs last election.. right now 79 seats for the grits in this election.... i could list the last 10 elections but i'm too lazy. as long as quebec elects guys who are part of a single province party it'll never be "kingmaker". Well with FPTP whats supposed to matter is how well your representative does and whether he represents your interest well enough for you to support their party. Right now its more a case of, "I dont really know who my MP will be but Im going liberal." Granted thats the best way to get rid of Harper but thats not the ideal that FPTP is supposed to embody. FPTP is designed for places that have multiple major party's and diverse ethnic communities. So you atleast have a winner that can do something and doesnt constantly need to bend over backwards to accommodate partisan politics by one constituencies (or as we call them here ridings), What really should be happening is that your MP should display over the course of the time they are in charge that you want to vote for their party as opposed to voting for the MP candidate because you want the party which is the case right now. So naturally the province with the most seats will be the king maker. if you can manage to dominate it. Thats rather standard if you were to analyse Parliamentary style governments across the world You have to hand it to Quebec and the atlantics though, they really pushed this into a thumping as opposed to a scrape through, | ||
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