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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
January 07 2015 17:13 GMT
#401
On January 08 2015 02:12 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 02:10 Grettin wrote:
On January 08 2015 02:09 pretender58 wrote:
On January 08 2015 02:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This should fuel the far right even more in Europe.

Sadly. e.g. "Pegida" in Germany but especially the already strong "Front National" in France


Wasn't the 'head' of National Front supposed to speak or release a statement to the public hours ago? Is it available somewhere..




Thanks. Any transcript? Can't speak nor understand French.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:14:58
January 07 2015 17:13 GMT
#402
On January 08 2015 02:10 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 02:09 pretender58 wrote:
On January 08 2015 02:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
This should fuel the far right even more in Europe.

Sadly. e.g. "Pegida" in Germany but especially the already strong "Front National" in France


Wasn't the 'head' of National Front supposed to speak or release a statement to the public hours ago? Is it available somewhere..

She said she denounced a "terrorist attack committed by Islamic fanatics". Talk about desinformation...
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 07 2015 17:13 GMT
#403
On January 08 2015 02:05 travis wrote:
Here is the paper I wrote:

http://www.filedropper.com/researchpaperendnotesworkcited-travisblack_1


Would you consider posting this as a blog for dicsussion? I have a lot to say to you after reading this, but I feel it would derail this thread a lot.
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:14:20
January 07 2015 17:13 GMT
#404
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pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:16:24
January 07 2015 17:13 GMT
#405
On January 08 2015 02:07 ahswtini wrote:
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On January 08 2015 02:04 pretender58 wrote:
On January 08 2015 02:03 FFW_Rude wrote:
What is ISIS ? I think i know but the name is different in french.


I think they´re called "Daesh" in french/by the french government

Daesh or Da'ish is more of a perjorative term and not exclusive to French (an abbreviation of al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi Iraq wa al-Sham)


yes I know, i didn´t mean that Daesh is french for ISIS
I was referring to the fact that contrary to other western countries, in France ISIS are called Daesh.

edit: Also see Acertos´ post about that.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
January 07 2015 17:14 GMT
#406
On January 08 2015 02:03 Tephus wrote:
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On January 08 2015 01:59 travis wrote:
That is no concern, I already have received my grades for the semester. Basically my conclusion was "it's not black and white but no it was not right for them to publish the cartoons". I'll post it in a sec.

I'd like to read it. I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where peacefully exercising freedom of speech is wrong.


His position is essentially that the danish newspaper decided to stand up for one ideal through another immoral action. It could have been done in a way which was more dignified or respectful, and then there was also the comment of hypocrisy because similar anti christian comics were denied use.
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:14:53
January 07 2015 17:14 GMT
#407
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Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:15:10
January 07 2015 17:14 GMT
#408
On January 08 2015 02:07 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 02:04 pretender58 wrote:
On January 08 2015 02:03 FFW_Rude wrote:
What is ISIS ? I think i know but the name is different in french.


I think they´re called "Daesh" in french/by the french government

Daesh or Da'ish is more of a perjorative term and not exclusive to French (an abbreviation of al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi Iraq wa al-Sham)

No Daesh means demon in arab. It was a demand of the French Muslim community in order not to give any credibility to this islamist state which is quite smart by the way. Most Muslims just don't want to be associated with IS.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 07 2015 17:14 GMT
#409
So that seals what their motives were.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
January 07 2015 17:14 GMT
#410
Former CEO of Charlie Hebdo : https://soundcloud.com/franceinter/jai-perdu-tous-mes-amis

It's in French but he's so sad.

I'm trying do to a TL;DR for Marine Le Pen statement.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 07 2015 17:14 GMT
#411
On January 08 2015 02:13 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 02:05 travis wrote:
Here is the paper I wrote:

http://www.filedropper.com/researchpaperendnotesworkcited-travisblack_1


Would you consider posting this as a blog for dicsussion? I have a lot to say to you after reading this, but I feel it would derail this thread a lot.


Sure, I will make a blog post on it now so that the thread can stay more on topic.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
January 07 2015 17:16 GMT
#412
I'm not a native speaker but I speak it quite well:

Basically she calls for a strong response to the attack, saying we should not fear this and call it with its real name, 'a terrorist attack in name of radical islam' . At the end she also says that we do not have to make confusion between muslim french who consider themselves french and terrorists.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 07 2015 17:17 GMT
#413
On January 08 2015 02:14 Acertos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 02:07 ahswtini wrote:
On January 08 2015 02:04 pretender58 wrote:
On January 08 2015 02:03 FFW_Rude wrote:
What is ISIS ? I think i know but the name is different in french.


I think they´re called "Daesh" in french/by the french government

Daesh or Da'ish is more of a perjorative term and not exclusive to French (an abbreviation of al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi Iraq wa al-Sham)

No Daesh means demon in arab. It was a demand of the French Muslim community in order not to give any credibility to this islamist state which is quite smart by the way. Most Muslims just don't want to be associated with IS.

Source? I haven't found any evidence that Daesh is arabic for demon

The capitals in the word DAESH point out it is an acronym of some sort. And indeed if we single out the beginning letters of the Arabic name for ISIS : الدولة الاسلامية في العراق والشام

we get the Arabic: داعش

د = Dawlat (Nation)
ا = (al-) Islāmiyya
ع= (fī’l-) ‘Irāq
ش = (wa’s-) Shām (Greater Syria or the Levant)
So, roughly transcribed to the Latin alphabet that leaves us with DAESH. (The E stands for the ‘ayn in ‘Iraq)

...

In se the Arabic word داعش doesn’t even exist. But if we look at the tone of voice within circles (opposing ISIS) ever since they introduced the acronym, we might conclude the acronym has a double meaning.

Most likely ISIS opponents are referring to the Arabic verb دعس, meaning : to thread underfoot, trample down, crush (see The Hans Wehr Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic, p. 325 and 326)
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
January 07 2015 17:19 GMT
#414
On January 08 2015 02:16 SoSexy wrote:
I'm not a native speaker but I speak it quite well:

Basically she calls for a strong response to the attack, saying we should not fear this and call it with its real name, 'a terrorist attack in name of radical islam' . At the end she also says that we do not have to make confusion between muslim french who consider themselves french and terrorists.

You are right.
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Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
January 07 2015 17:19 GMT
#415
I think it doesn't come from literal arab but maybe the tunisian dialect.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
January 07 2015 17:19 GMT
#416
On January 08 2015 02:19 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 02:16 SoSexy wrote:
I'm not a native speaker but I speak it quite well:

Basically she calls for a strong response to the attack, saying we should not fear this and call it with its real name, 'a terrorist attack in name of radical islam' . At the end she also says that we do not have to make confusion between muslim french who consider themselves french and terrorists.

You are right.


And to think I barely passed French in High School I love Paris, I've been there multiple times...this is so sad
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 07 2015 17:22 GMT
#417
Ho fuck Bernard Marris is dead... so sad.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
January 07 2015 17:30 GMT
#418
On January 08 2015 02:14 Aeromi wrote:
Former CEO of Charlie Hebdo : https://soundcloud.com/franceinter/jai-perdu-tous-mes-amis

It's in French but he's so sad.


This is heartbreaking
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
January 07 2015 17:31 GMT
#419
Seems like our child prodigies are already back from Syria lol.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 17:34:44
January 07 2015 17:32 GMT
#420
On January 08 2015 01:44 Telenil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 01:39 frontliner2 wrote:
On January 08 2015 01:35 Grettin wrote:
On January 08 2015 01:27 frontliner2 wrote:
There will be no mobilization LOL

Why would there be?

ISIS has enough armies and militias at their throats, no need for a European expeditionary force.

USA wouldn't go to war over a terrorist attack that killed between 10 and 20 ppl.


Mobilization of whom? The French? They have been fighting against terror for years. So it has already happened.


Do they have a standing army in Iraq and Syria? That's where ISIS is right now. I'm thinking ISIS ideology.

About ten of our Rafale jets are bombing ISIS in Iraq, and the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle was rumoured to leave for the Gulf next week. No ground forces in Iraq, but only the American have any.

and the Mali, and all AQMI that we fight in central afreeca ?
We fight against horror like all other country


On January 08 2015 02:30 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 02:14 Aeromi wrote:
Former CEO of Charlie Hebdo : https://soundcloud.com/franceinter/jai-perdu-tous-mes-amis

It's in French but he's so sad.


This is heartbreaking

omg




EDIT : I just came back from The Place Du Capitole, (Toulouse Town Hall Square) where we all stay quiet to protest against this massacre.*
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