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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On April 07 2017 07:19 lastpuritan wrote: Is there a good article on Gibraltar case? Preferably objective... I only read it in Czech newspapers, so I have no useful source for nonspeakers. Hope its not fake news, there was ministry of foreign affairs quoted directly. | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On April 07 2017 02:15 Shield wrote: The EU is dropping roaming charges. Good decision.  As I understand, first step is only for voice and SMS, but step in the right direction. In between all the drama, some great news for consumers in the EU! | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On April 07 2017 07:19 lastpuritan wrote: Is there a good article on Gibraltar case? Preferably objective... I don't know about articles, but the UK government seems determined to keep Gibraltar. Spain can't challenge the UK in military, but war isn't an outcome you expect. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
"After the United Kingdom leaves the Union, no agreement between the EU and the United Kingdom may apply to the territory of Gibraltar without the agreement between the Kingdom of Spain and the United Kingdom." The people's of Gilbraltar's living standard are completely dependent on access to the EU, which is why they voted 96% to remain in the EU. Simply put, Spain will have a veto over the future of Gilbraltar's relationship with the EU. This turned into an issue, as the former conservative leader, Michael Howard, during an interview with SKY news, said that UK would go to war to protect Gilbraltar from invasion, in the same way UK went to war to protect the Falklands from invasion. This is somewhat bizarre as the SKY interviewer noticed, as Spain is not threatening invasion, but a political action. In essence, he is threatening military action to preserve what would be preferential access to the EU for the people of Gilbraltar. There is no partisan sides to take in the Gilbraltar debate, it's just Michael Howard, who would normally be irrelevant as a nominally retired politician, talking shit. Seems to be the current conservative party modus operandi in "negotiating" with the EU. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:24 LegalLord wrote: So what do the Europeans think of the Syria issue and Trump launching missiles? Reactions in France: Government: this means that we were right in 2013, Assad is the main and only responsible for what happened Macron: Assad is the enemy of the Syrian people and he'll have to face international justice, but fighting ISIS is priority; also calls for a coordinated, international action in retaliation against Assad Le Pen: surprised/disappointed at Trump's reaction [lol @ the fools who thought that Trump would be isolationnist!], says we should wait the conclusions of the investigations Fillon: understands Trump's reaction but worries about the possibility of a generalized conflict between the Western world and Russia/Iran Mélenchon: blamed Hollande/Merkel for supporting Trump's unilateral action, says we shouldn't accept that he decides alone to intervene on his own Hamon: see government Dupont-Aignan: doesn't want to see the Iraq/Libya scenario again, says we should wait the conclusions of the investigations Far-left: f*ck Assad, ISIS and imperialist interventions Basically, mostly criticisms at Trump's unilateral action and calls for actions within the UN framework... except our hawkish government, still mad at Obama's refusal to intervene in 2013. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39531108 "Police are treating the incident as possible terrorism" | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:24 LegalLord wrote: So what do the Europeans think of the Syria issue and Trump launching missiles? Czech political scene surprisingly united for once, both government and democratic opposition support Trump in this, only communists unsurprisingly negative and the president (you probably know him from the annual meeting of Russian shills) is reserved. | ||
LightSpectra
United States2775 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:41 TheDwf wrote: Macron: Assad is the enemy of the Syrian people and he'll have to face international justice, but fighting ISIS is priority; also calls for a coordinated, international action in retaliation against Assad I'm really sad that this man is probably going to become president. | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:24 LegalLord wrote: So what do the Europeans think of the Syria issue and Trump launching missiles? Trump's way of saying that he still holds power, and that he is not just empty treats and promises. tbh I'm not really a fan of disposing Assad. If Assad goes, it is very likely that Syria becomes an extremist islamic state. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:50 LightSpectra wrote: I'm really sad that this man is probably going to become president. In the dying gasp of the EU, its last leaders are going to desperately hold onto what led to the problem in the first place. This is nothing out of the ordinary. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:55 LegalLord wrote: In the dying gasp of the EU, its last leaders are going to desperately hold onto what led to the problem in the first place. This is nothing out of the ordinary. So we shouldn't fight ISIS? Or which part of Macron's quote do you two have a problem with? | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:59 Laurens wrote: So we shouldn't fight ISIS? Or which part of Macron's quote do you two have a problem with? Every other part? | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10909 Posts
Your against... international coordination? Wat? | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
On April 07 2017 23:06 Velr wrote: Your against... international coordination? Wat? International coordination against Assad | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9314 Posts
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
On April 07 2017 23:11 Sent. wrote: Our government expressed their full support. I think it's a nice PR stunt by Trump. Don't expect nor want the US to actually try to remove Assad. The chance to replace him with someone more accetpable passed long time ago. Fully agree. | ||
Nixer
2774 Posts
On April 07 2017 22:55 LegalLord wrote: In the dying gasp of the EU, its last leaders are going to desperately hold onto what led to the problem in the first place. This is nothing out of the ordinary. I wasn't aware the EU was suddenly dying, interesting point of view. | ||
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