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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 20 2017 14:56 GMT
#14421
On March 20 2017 23:41 Incognoto wrote:
Edit: Political compass test results for me are :

Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38


Weakling.

Economic Left/Right: -5.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
March 20 2017 15:24 GMT
#14422
Kind of what I expected. Thought I'd be more centric in economic issues, but if this is made by Americans, then it makes sense that I would be fairly left of the center.

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

In terms of their famous people graph, I'm fairly near to Ghandi, so in good company, I'd say.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
March 20 2017 15:32 GMT
#14423
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.08

I think they should add "don't know/care" answers. The question about plant genetic resources was really weird.

These made me lol+ Show Spoiler +
If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.

All authority should be questioned.

What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us.

A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.

In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.

Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
You're now breathing manually
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
March 20 2017 15:33 GMT
#14424
Economic Left/Right: 1.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

Am I alone on the economic right?
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 15:39:03
March 20 2017 15:38 GMT
#14425
No, RvB is there with you
That makes more sense to me. It places me at right wing libertarian. Some questions are pretty weird though.
You're now breathing manually
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 15:47:28
March 20 2017 15:46 GMT
#14426
On March 21 2017 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
Kind of what I expected. Thought I'd be more centric in economic issues, but if this is made by Americans, then it makes sense that I would be fairly left of the center.

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

In terms of their famous people graph, I'm fairly near to Ghandi, so in good company, I'd say.

-8 , -8,21. I've moved to the right economically and socially since last time I took the test.

To be honest, most questions are such a caricature that to be firmly on the right on that graph you would have to be really, really dogmatic. Like "What is good for successful multinational companies is ultimately good for all of us". Unless you are a complete Foxbot or the CEO of Monsanto, you can't answer strongly agree, because it simply defies common sense. I have some hope that most respectable right wingers have more nuanced opinion (in that case you could be strongly pro business and very conservative and still answer "strongly disagree": that's simply factual that what is good for, say, Phillip Morris is not good for all of us.)
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 16:00:34
March 20 2017 15:54 GMT
#14427
Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

I'm basically a communist. I think I'd be more towards the center on economic issues if they didn't continuously mention multinationals. I'm fine with business in general, its just that multinationals take the piss out of everything.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
March 20 2017 15:59 GMT
#14428
A lot of us basically are according to Americans, hah.
This maps you according to their political spectrum more than the European one, of course.
Graphics
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
March 20 2017 16:06 GMT
#14429
So many people with similar views across different countries, we should start an union or something here in Europe
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
March 20 2017 16:08 GMT
#14430
On March 21 2017 00:54 a_flayer wrote:
Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82

I'm basically a communist. I think I'd be more towards the center on economic issues if they didn't continuously mention multinationals. I'm fine with business in general, its just that multinationals take the piss out of everything.

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64
though communism has the one party system which I denied it's supposed advantage in the test.
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
March 20 2017 16:11 GMT
#14431
On March 21 2017 00:46 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 00:24 Acrofales wrote:
Kind of what I expected. Thought I'd be more centric in economic issues, but if this is made by Americans, then it makes sense that I would be fairly left of the center.

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

In terms of their famous people graph, I'm fairly near to Ghandi, so in good company, I'd say.

-8 , -8,21. I've moved to the right economically and socially since last time I took the test.

To be honest, most questions are such a caricature that to be firmly on the right on that graph you would have to be really, really dogmatic. Like "What is good for successful multinational companies is ultimately good for all of us". Unless you are a complete Foxbot or the CEO of Monsanto, you can't answer strongly agree, because it simply defies common sense. I have some hope that most respectable right wingers have more nuanced opinion (in that case you could be strongly pro business and very conservative and still answer "strongly disagree": that's simply factual that what is good for, say, Phillip Morris is not good for all of us.)

Yeah, some are silly, no one thinks multinational corporations > humanity. I may have overcompensated with Strongly disagrees on questions like "It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product.", "Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.", and "Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade.". You basically end up kind of where you want to because much of it is how you interpret the questions. Do I think we should tax the rich less through income taxes? Yes, in many EU countries. Do I think we should decrease capital gains taxes? Probably not.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
March 20 2017 16:46 GMT
#14432
-5 Econ -4 Libertarian/Authoritarian, where do I sign up for the permanent revolution?

Seriously though that one has some pretty leading questions and is very skewed. That's where they placed Clinton lol

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 20 2017 16:49 GMT
#14433
Chart might be a little biased.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
March 20 2017 16:53 GMT
#14434
I think I've gotten like 4 completely different answers each time I took that sad excuse for a quiz?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
March 20 2017 17:16 GMT
#14435
On March 21 2017 01:53 LegalLord wrote:
I think I've gotten like 4 completely different answers each time I took that sad excuse for a quiz?

The graph is in fact a cube, and Putin is in the depth dimension. So you broke the quizz. Sorry.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
March 20 2017 17:24 GMT
#14436
Your Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -7.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

Seems about right, though "social libertarian" is an incoherent descriptor
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 20 2017 17:33 GMT
#14437
Like I said before, there is a definate Americanocentric tone to the styles of questions. I'm guessing that if you are an evangelical Christian you'll jump massively to the authoritarian side or something, and to most Europeans, some opf the questions you have to answer to be on the "right" involves complete disregard for the nature of reality.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17983 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 17:35:25
March 20 2017 17:34 GMT
#14438
On March 21 2017 02:24 farvacola wrote:
Your Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -7.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13

Seems about right, though "social libertarian" is an incoherent descriptor

Agreed. Not quite sure when/why they decided "liberal" should be superseded by "libertarian" in all contexts, even in those where "liberal" is simply more apt. Especially in this case, where you could simply drop the "social" in that descriptor. Liberalism is a perfectly good antonym for Authoritarianism.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-20 17:39:54
March 20 2017 17:37 GMT
#14439
It's American terminology, Chomsky likes to call himself left-libertarian frequently.

Liberalism isn't a good antonym here because it's often associated with negative freedoms. 'left-libertarianism' is basically just anarchism. Or Orwell-ish socialism (as in the guy, not the book)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 20 2017 17:40 GMT
#14440
Libertarian sounds like a positive, but then you are one step away from sovereign citizen.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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