EPTEuropean Politico-economics QA Mega-thread - Page 713
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6284 Posts
On March 16 2017 06:08 Sr18 wrote: The VVD, D66, CDA and CU coalition only has a 1 seat majority in the senate. That seems really risky to me. The Senate is the eerste kamer. It has 75 seats. VVD 13, CDA 12, D66 10, CU 3. That's 38 seats (majority of 3). The bigger problem is the lower house (tweede kamer) where they're just on 75 seats now and even if they win the majority will likely only be 1 or a couple of seats. https://www.eerstekamer.nl/fracties | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On March 16 2017 06:08 Sr18 wrote: The VVD, D66, CDA and CU coalition only has a 1 seat majority in the senate. That seems really risky to me. Not just that, but D66 and CU only really see eye to eye on economic issues. They are probably the most socially progressive party in NL, and they may balk at governing with two Christian Democratic parties. Groen Links is a far more natural ally for them, but that might make CDA quite unhappy for the same reasons. Very difficult situation to form a coalition if the result is similar to the exit polls. Maybe a minority government would be the best option, with VVD,CDA and D66, and agreements with CU and GL for support of different parts of the program? | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
Is the gap between VVD and GL smaller than the gap between D66 and CDA/CU? Also obligatory fuck Thierry Baudet Edit: Dwf, they lost 29 out of their 38 seats. They're left with 9. | ||
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6284 Posts
On March 16 2017 06:20 mahrgell wrote: 38 ou of 75 is not a majority of 3 in my book sorry I miscalculated lol. Divided 70 by 2 instead of 75. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11895 Posts
On March 16 2017 06:24 Plansix wrote: From a US citizen’s perspective, you folks have more acronyms than our armed services. It is impressive you can keep them all straight. Congrats on what appears to be a low key, drama free election. That still remains to be seen. In european elections, drama often happens in the coalition forming phase. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
As I say, populist sentiment ebbs and flows and 2017 doesn't seem quite as troublesome as 2016. Mostly just the fallout of 16. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18320 Posts
On March 16 2017 06:27 TheDwf wrote: @Dutch people: so how many points and seats did the social-democrats lose? Depends on how you count social democrats. If you count that as PvdA, they got decimated. They're down from 38 to 9 seats in Parliament, and it's their largest defeat ever. If you count social democrats as PvdA, GL and D66, then they "only" lost 10 seats: both GL and D66 are up significantly. And if you add DENK in there as well, then they're down 7. How on earth DENK gets 3 seats is beyond me, but that's what the exit polls predict. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22427 Posts
On March 16 2017 07:00 LegalLord wrote: Certainly has the face of a James Bond villain. As I say, populist sentiment ebbs and flows and 2017 doesn't seem quite as troublesome as 2016. Mostly just the fallout of 16. I think we can thank Trump for that. The world got a bit of a shock there in how bad things can turn out if you go full 'f*** the establishment'. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 16 2017 07:06 Gorsameth wrote: I think we can thank Trump for that. The world got a bit of a shock there in how bad things can turn out if you go full 'f*** the establishment'. If the populist wave ends where it is right now, then we can probably just say that the Anglosphere made an oopsie and everyone else mostly weathered the storm relatively alright. Realistically, though, this is just like 2014-2015. In the wake of troublesome circumstances the centrists still manage to pull off surprise victories and the populists disappoint. But then 2016 mk II comes and everything goes to shit again. The fundamental causes of populism have not left us and so it will manifest again. | ||
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