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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-27 20:16:03
February 27 2022 18:48 GMT
#27021
Clarifying to say that Kyiv mayor says Kyiv isn't surrounded

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2654 Posts
February 27 2022 18:56 GMT
#27022
On February 28 2022 03:48 plasmidghost wrote:
Kyiv is in it for the long haul now.


Yes. Siege begins in earnest now.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9193 Posts
February 27 2022 19:15 GMT
#27023
Uhh maybe something was lost in translation because I doubt the Ukrainians would just let the Russians encircle them in Kiyv so easily. I'd guess he just meant all routes out of the city are no longer safe because of Russian advance.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 27 2022 19:26 GMT
#27024
On February 28 2022 03:34 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2022 02:49 mahrgell wrote:
On February 28 2022 02:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The Bank of Tinkoff is offering 171 Rubles for every dollar.



Futures will be updated in little over 5 hours. I think.


No, they are not offering 171 rubles per dollar. Learn to read ffs. It is their asking price, while they are offering 78 rubles per dollar.


Fully admit I am not knowledgeable in this area. From what I see, they're giving you 78 rubles for every US dollar while you give them 171 rubles for a US dollar. Why is this not the case?


You got it perfectly right.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
February 27 2022 19:26 GMT
#27025
Likely that there is a significant presence of Russian troops on all sides of the city. But as we've seen for the past few days, Russians don't seem to be 'in control' of much territory and Ukrainians have been hitting convoys in the flanks and rear anyways. Hell if they actually wanted to siege Kyiv Russians would probably need to commit all the troops they have in Ukraine now and then some.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
February 27 2022 19:32 GMT
#27026
The Swiss president says it is "very probable" that the country will follow along with EU sanctions on Russia and freezing assets. A somewhat notable turn for a country famed for its neutrality and being a financial haven for some very shady countries and groups.

I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
February 27 2022 19:33 GMT
#27027
What is Putins goal at this point? Another Croznyi- scenario or destroy everything?
it's not just a music it's something else
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11822 Posts
February 27 2022 19:46 GMT
#27028
On February 28 2022 04:33 whaski wrote:
What is Putins goal at this point? Another Croznyi- scenario or destroy everything?


Making enough gains to make Ukraine land locked seems a possible goal. Regime change or the entire country seems unlikely unless something major changes.

Would also make the war worth it due to the natural resources gained.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
February 27 2022 19:54 GMT
#27029
On February 28 2022 03:48 plasmidghost wrote:
Kyiv is in it for the long haul now.

https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1498002460279021570

A spokesman for Mayor Klitschko says Kyiv isn't surrounded and his words were misinterpreted. A journalist for BILD-Zeitung in Kyiv corroborates that by saying "the city is not cut off".

It's a chaotic swirl of fog of war, misinterpretation, possible translation errors, and more going on right now we have to be cautious with. What I'm citing could be completely wrong as well by the way.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 27 2022 19:59 GMT
#27030
Now Canada is banning all Russian flights from it's airspace.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
February 27 2022 20:01 GMT
#27031
AFAIK Kyiv is not surrounded

What worries me is a particular report of fleet of russian aicrafts moving somewhere from Crimea, I hope the US Intel keeps an eye on this
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 27 2022 20:01 GMT
#27032
Generally, with any news like this, it is just smart to give it 30 minutes.

I'm still following the reddit live feed ( https://www.reddit.com/live/18hnzysb1elcs ), but there my experience has also been to just let things stand for 30 minutes before believing them. They are doing a good job at quickly removing stuff that turned out duds or obvious misinformation compensating for their overeagerness to quickly forward whatever news they can find.

Same the Bosporus story today, the various stages of the SWIFT ban etc or the more outlying claims of success of both conflict parties.

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-27 20:18:38
February 27 2022 20:18 GMT
#27033
Apparently the meeting to decide the outcome of following the sanctions is tomorrow.

GENEVA, Feb 27 (Reuters) - Swiss President Ignazio Cassis said on Sunday that it was "very probable" that neutral Switzerland would follow the European Union (EU) on Monday in sanctioning Russia and freezing Russian assets in the Alpine country.

Cassis, interviewed on French-language Swiss public television, said that the seven-member Federal Council would meet on Monday and review recommendations by the departments of finance and economy.

Asked whether Switzerland -- a major financial centre and commodities trading hub -- would follow the EU in freezing Russian assets, he said: "It is very probable that the government will decide to do so tomorrow, but I cannot anticipate decisions not yet taken."

Switzerland has walked a tortuous line between showing solidarity with the West and maintaining its traditional neutrality that the government says lets it offer its services as a potential mediator.

But it faces growing domestic pressure to side clearly with the West against Moscow and adopt punitive European Union sanctions. The government had so far said only that it will not let Switzerland be used as a platform to circumvent EU sanctions.

In the biggest peace march in decades, around 20,000 people demonstrated in Bern on Saturday to support Ukraine, some booing the government over its cautious policy.

The government last week amended its watchlist to include 363 individuals and four companies that the EU had put on its sanctions list to punish Moscow. read more

Russians held nearly 10.4 billion Swiss francs ($11.24 billion) in Switzerland in 2020, Swiss National Bank data show. Switzerland is also a major trading centre for Russian commodities.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
February 27 2022 20:18 GMT
#27034
On February 28 2022 04:33 whaski wrote:
What is Putins goal at this point? Another Croznyi- scenario or destroy everything?

I don’t think he has a plan at that point. It’s quite clear he has completely missplayed his hand and that not much is going as planned, so I assume he is just improvising.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland402 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-27 20:22:18
February 27 2022 20:19 GMT
#27035
According to Bellingcat's executive director, there was an essay posted yesterday that got deleted shortly afterwards. The essay seemed to be meant to be posted after Russian forces had successfully taken Kyiv.

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1498025819054264328?cxt=HHwWkMC-kfWih8opAAAA
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
February 27 2022 20:29 GMT
#27036
Regarding an older question that people had about how sanctions against a central bank work, Borrell said at today's press conference that roughly half the reserves of the Russian central bank is held in G7 banks and will be frozen.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
February 27 2022 20:41 GMT
#27037
That's probably a bigger sanction than disconnecting from Swift. The Russian strategy to survive sanctions relied on using their foreign exchange reserves but now half of it is unavailable. This invasion really is a disaster for Russia in every possible way.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 27 2022 20:43 GMT
#27038
Apparently Norway will be liquidating it's state pension fund from the Russian stock market.

https://borsen.dagbladet.no/studio/borsenstudio/608?post=86622
https://www.vgtv.no/video/233573/direkte-siste-fra-krigen-i-ukraina
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
February 27 2022 20:45 GMT
#27039


Wonderful development. I’m happy to see Europe doing so well through all this. I still hope we see actual members of their military piloting these planes, but this is still a step in the right direction. A big step.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 27 2022 20:48 GMT
#27040
No way will any EU military personnel be piloting those jets.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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