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On July 26 2026 05:47 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2026 05:11 maybenexttime wrote:
Why would Joan of Arc be controversial? It's been 600 years. She's a cultural icon. I agree that Ada Lovelace would be a problem. There aren't that many women to chose from, considering they were marginalized for most of our history.
I don't think it's a problem of lack of culture. I don't think Maria Callas or Bertha von Suttner are anywhere in the same league as Beethoven, Marie Curie, da Vinci, or Cervantes. Those are iconic people. Everyone's heard of Beethoven or Mozart, Marie Curie or Einstein, da Vinci or Michelangelo. I'm pretty sure Maria Callas is only known to people who are into opera, and Bertha von Suttner is just obscure.
Also, Marie Curie was Polish, lol.
Obviously she was Polish, she married a French dude and became a naturalised French citizen and did all the important science in Paris. She's an icon of the EU for many reasons and her international mobility is one of them. But France is covered, while Austria is not. Not are many other countries. Two French people is a bit much. Female icons are a problem. I agree with you on that. Especially if we have to exclude the English. Emmeline Pankhurst would've been a good one to put on there too.
How about the guy who killed Hitler? ;p
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I dliske like more than a half of those. Half of the ones with birds and the minority of those with people are okay visually, but none of the them look like they were designed to invoke the feeling of regional pride. I wouldn't care if more than 75% of these bills had nothing to do with my region. That's not what I think is missing. I'm aware it's a very conservative view but I want my (future) banknotes to look as majestic as possible, which means I want the whole group to be dominated by heroes, statesmen (or stateswomen) and heraldic creatures.
Is this something that makes things worse in my opinion? No, of course not. Is this something that will make me feel more connected to people using the same bills to pay for bread, beers or bananas in Madrid, Vienna or Dublin? No. It's not bad, just a wasted opportunity to bring us all closer.
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On July 26 2026 06:04 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2026 05:47 Acrofales wrote:On July 26 2026 05:11 maybenexttime wrote:
Why would Joan of Arc be controversial? It's been 600 years. She's a cultural icon. I agree that Ada Lovelace would be a problem. There aren't that many women to chose from, considering they were marginalized for most of our history.
I don't think it's a problem of lack of culture. I don't think Maria Callas or Bertha von Suttner are anywhere in the same league as Beethoven, Marie Curie, da Vinci, or Cervantes. Those are iconic people. Everyone's heard of Beethoven or Mozart, Marie Curie or Einstein, da Vinci or Michelangelo. I'm pretty sure Maria Callas is only known to people who are into opera, and Bertha von Suttner is just obscure.
Also, Marie Curie was Polish, lol.
Obviously she was Polish, she married a French dude and became a naturalised French citizen and did all the important science in Paris. She's an icon of the EU for many reasons and her international mobility is one of them. But France is covered, while Austria is not. Not are many other countries. Two French people is a bit much. Female icons are a problem. I agree with you on that. Especially if we have to exclude the English. Emmeline Pankhurst would've been a good one to put on there too. How about the guy who killed Hitler? ;p
But he also killed the guy who killed Hitler.
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On July 26 2026 07:06 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2026 06:04 maybenexttime wrote:On July 26 2026 05:47 Acrofales wrote:On July 26 2026 05:11 maybenexttime wrote:
Why would Joan of Arc be controversial? It's been 600 years. She's a cultural icon. I agree that Ada Lovelace would be a problem. There aren't that many women to chose from, considering they were marginalized for most of our history.
I don't think it's a problem of lack of culture. I don't think Maria Callas or Bertha von Suttner are anywhere in the same league as Beethoven, Marie Curie, da Vinci, or Cervantes. Those are iconic people. Everyone's heard of Beethoven or Mozart, Marie Curie or Einstein, da Vinci or Michelangelo. I'm pretty sure Maria Callas is only known to people who are into opera, and Bertha von Suttner is just obscure.
Also, Marie Curie was Polish, lol.
Obviously she was Polish, she married a French dude and became a naturalised French citizen and did all the important science in Paris. She's an icon of the EU for many reasons and her international mobility is one of them. But France is covered, while Austria is not. Not are many other countries. Two French people is a bit much. Female icons are a problem. I agree with you on that. Especially if we have to exclude the English. Emmeline Pankhurst would've been a good one to put on there too. How about the guy who killed Hitler? ;p But he also killed the guy who killed Hitler.
It's Hitlers all the way down.
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