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RvB
Netherlands6205 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:18 Dan HH wrote: Germany just committed to directly supplying weapons to Ukraine. I hope the US follows suit. The US has been supplying weapons for a while now. Germany was the only real hold out. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:18 Dan HH wrote: https://twitter.com/Bundeskanzler/status/1497632817450266632 Germany just committed to directly supplying weapons to Ukraine. I hope the US follows suit. Fucking finally. And I highly appreciate that it is Scholz personally publishing this, instead of attempting it in some covert way to not hurt Little Vladis feelings. Though with regards to the SWIFT ban, the German government so far is still talking about some "selective/modified SWIFT ban" instead of the full thing. But well, lets see how long this last bit of moderation will last. This swing in public opinion I've seen in the last few days here in Germany is absolutely unprecedented. And politics will catch up with that. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:05 Starlightsun wrote: Our thoughts are with you... sounds like the attacks are really starting to intensify. Please take care. Yea, that is correct, the northern part of Kharkiv (Saltovka civil district, one of the biggest in europe) was shelled for about 40 minutes straight. Neighbours also told me they heard a couple of gunfire shots in our area locally just now, while we are having a strict curfew, could be a saboteur or just someone out of his mind. Thank you for the support! Hard to imagine, 4 days ago we had completely normal life, and now it's like a very scary movie, but having your support from all over the worlds makes it easier and helps to believe in the future | ||
KwarK
United States42568 Posts
Personally I'd like to see western European nations enforcing a no-fly zone over Ukraine on the basis that it's Ukrainian airspace, they have permission to be there, and that there shouldn't be any Russian jets there in the first place. That's no different than policing their own airspace. If a Russian fighter entered Polish airspace and the Poles shot it down nobody would expect that to escalate into a full nuclear exchange, there's no reason why Russia would commit suicide over their jets being shot down in another country's sovereign airspace. The bluff must be called at some point. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9117 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:30 RvB wrote: The US has been supplying weapons for a while now. Germany was the only real hold out. Have they done that since the invasion began? Last I saw they were debating whether that would make them co-combatants. They did send funds though. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
imo, the more military help will be sent to Ukraine, the more full retard the Kremlin will go. | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:16 Artisreal wrote: I can't believe that Russia has like 750k troops around Ukraine. Fair, I think me saying active forces is wrong there. I'll say 75% of combat ready forces and admit that it is an entirely unsubstantiated claim. The entire active organisation is somewhere in the order of 1M men, but that includes everything from freshest conscripts to troops that are likely to only exist on paper. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6205 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:34 Dan HH wrote: Have they done that since the invasion began? Last I saw they were debating whether that would make them co-combatants. They did send funds though. Since before the invasion: The U.S. has sent roughly 650 tons of arms and equipment to Ukraine since Jan.22. Since Russia’s seizure of Crimea and occupation of the eastern Donbas areas in 2014, the U.S. has delivered $2.7 billion in military aid to Ukraine. And they will send even more: U.S. President Joe Biden has authorized the State Department to send another $350 million in weapons, including Javelin anti-tank weapons, to help Ukrainian forces fight back the ongoing Russian invasion. Sources: https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-led-air-bridge-of-weapons-to-ukraine-seeks-to-shore-up-kyivs-ability-to-resist-russia-11644140852 https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2022/02/26/biden-to-send-350m-in-military-aid-to-ukraine/ | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9117 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:42 RvB wrote: Since before the invasion: And they will send even more: Sources: https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-led-air-bridge-of-weapons-to-ukraine-seeks-to-shore-up-kyivs-ability-to-resist-russia-11644140852 https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2022/02/26/biden-to-send-350m-in-military-aid-to-ukraine/ My bad, I missed the news in the last link. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
also, the weapons are not free, are not gifts, or things of sorts. | ||
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r00ty
Germany1050 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:18 Dan HH wrote: https://twitter.com/Bundeskanzler/status/1497632817450266632 Germany just committed to directly supplying weapons to Ukraine. I hope the US follows suit. Wow, never thought this would happen. Putin really seems to have overextended. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On February 27 2022 03:40 Oukka wrote: Fair, I think me saying active forces is wrong there. I'll say 75% of combat ready forces and admit that it is an entirely unsubstantiated claim. The entire active organisation is somewhere in the order of 1M men, but that includes everything from freshest conscripts to troops that are likely to only exist on paper. I have read that 75% number a couple of times - and I believe that includes outside of this thread. With the reported 150k of personell surrounding Ukraine I was suprised of how low that number was in context with the 75%. So I guess we don't really know but can assume, that a majority of Russian actve troops is engaged aound Ukraine. Which in context of WWII is laughably low. But also my main mistake to somehow unwittingly compare these numbers. | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:16 Artisreal wrote: I have read that 75% number a couple of times - and I believe that includes outside of this thread. With the reported 150k of personell surrounding Ukraine I was suprised of how low that number was in context with the 75%. So I guess we don't really know but can assume, that a majority of Russian actve troops is engaged aound Ukraine. Which in context of WWII is laughably low. But also my main mistake to somehow unwittingly compare these numbers. Yeah, I think the first time I heard of that estimate was Thursday morning, was talking about the beginning of the invasion with a colleague then. I've seen it somewhere else since, but no idea what the actual origin of that claim is. Aye, WWII won't be a reasonable comparison, that was all reserves and then some mobilized. My understanding is that even currently Russia has another 2M or so in reserves, but those haven't been mobilized (and likely won't be because that would be kinda hard to hide at home). And in a WWII type of situation the reserve would be even larger because it is apparently not that difficult to avoid the mandatory conscription if you have either enough cash or some semi-reasonable excuse, including a broad range of further education. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7290 Posts
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Reports coming in that General Magomed Tushayev has been killed. https://twitter.com/DrAlakbarov/status/1497655989797113857 I'm also getting this info, they are also reporting that the whole unit was crashed Also - see partially a video by Kadyrov (head of Chechen republic) in instagram stating "we don't wanna fight ukrainians", but it could be ripped our of the context. In addition, got a reports about huge russian supply column that was destroyed (Chernihiv - Sumy direction), the column was initially reported by the ordinary citizens to ukrainian army Oh I wish the West could support closing the sky over Ukraine | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On February 27 2022 05:03 Nyxisto wrote: Finally we're getting our head out of our asses and are sending weapons. It's hard to tell what information is accurate but it seems like the prevailing opinion is that Russian casualties are already high. I'm not entirely sure what Russia expected but I wonder what's going to happen if they're getting thousands home in body bags every week. Ukraine seems to be fighting for its life. Hence why Russia sent units with mobile crematoriums. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On February 27 2022 02:44 RvB wrote: That doesn't answer Acrofales question. He wants to know how sanctions against a central bank work not disconnecting the financial system from Swift. I am curious as well but have no idea. The only aspect of a central bank that depends on foreign countries is regulating and intervening the market for foreign currency. For example, the Russian central bank selling US currency to Russian banks to prop up the value of the ruble so that there isn't a crisis in the international and financial sectors of the economy. If there is no market for foreign currency in the first place, because it's broken down by the lack of SWIFT or by sanctions, then I don't see any mechanisms though which foreign sanctions can affect a central bank. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On February 27 2022 04:58 Dav1oN wrote: I'm also getting this info, they are also reporting that the whole unit was crashed Also - see partially a video by Kadyrov (head of Chechen republic) in instagram stating "we don't wanna fight ukrainians", but it could be ripped our of the context. In addition, got a reports about huge russian supply column that was destroyed (Chernihiv - Sumy direction), the column was initially reported by the ordinary citizens to ukrainian army Oh I wish the West could support closing the sky over Ukraine Not sure how reliable the info on the Chechen unit is, haven't seen any source I trust report on this yet, but it could very well be true. Supply columns seem to be getting hit quite a bit, the one getting destroyed near Chernihiv - Sumy also lines up with reports that vehicles and soldiers in that area are without supplies. Most surprising news by far today for me would be that Ukrainian Su-25s are still capable of running sorties, Russia not having full air control is a major defeat for them. However, southern flank is still in shambles so unless counterattacks happen there that's a real big issue. Edit: With regards to the mobile crematoriums, this has been standard practice for Russian forces for a while so I wouldn't read that as confirming high casualties. Casualties are probably still high though, but that's mainly based on other info. | ||
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