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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-25 03:45:18
February 25 2022 03:06 GMT
#26461
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 25 2022 03:49 GMT
#26462
Apparently reports of Russian troops have reached the suburbs of Kyiv.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-25 05:08:01
February 25 2022 04:59 GMT
#26463
On February 25 2022 12:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Apparently reports of Russian troops have reached the suburbs of Kyiv.

Can hear occasional explosions and a constant stream of fighter jets in the background on the Kyiv live stream. Really unsettling stuff tbh.

edit: sirens going off again.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
February 25 2022 05:17 GMT
#26464
On February 25 2022 10:51 plasmidghost wrote:
At this point, Russia will have to commit to a much larger invasion. May God protect Ukraine.


well I mean it has only been two days
very illegal and very uncool
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
February 25 2022 05:56 GMT
#26465
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8150 Posts
February 25 2022 06:13 GMT
#26466
According to Macron and his aides, the Putin he met in Moscow is not the same man than pre-pandemic Putin. Macron described him as rigid and tense and some Elysée aide as paranoid.

When asked if he thought Putin had gone mad, the latter answered « yes ».

Now if that’s even remotely true, we have s big problem, if you ask me.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
February 25 2022 07:01 GMT
#26467
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
February 25 2022 07:12 GMT
#26468
That doesn't seem particularly surprising tbh. It's the same thing we saw yesterday and it's not particularly novel maneuver for superpower armies. As we saw yesterday, it's dangerous to both sides. Yesterday the troops attempting this were left stranded and eventually shattered, we'll probably hear how it goes today.

If it works and Russia can sufficiently reinforce the position it'll be really nasty for the Ukrainians to have a sizeable hostile force behind their front line.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8150 Posts
February 25 2022 07:25 GMT
#26469
Apparently Ukraine is flat with very little obstacles, so kind of indefensible against a far superior force. The military outcome is obvious..
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-25 07:49:11
February 25 2022 07:36 GMT
#26470
I personally think a war is not warranted whatsoever. The era of the Imperial Ambition of Monarchies and the Cold War is over! But alas some countries, and I blame both sides for this, keep pushing each other needlessly. The saddest part of all is that 2 Orthodox Christian Slavic countries are on the brink of war! Both countries are basically blood brothers whether you like to admit it or not.

But honestly I think the blame is with NATO... Geo-Politics is primarily the most important reason for this conflict
Russia and Ukraine are neighboring countries. The EU and NATO want Ukraine to join its organizations. Russia has again and again said that such an action would be a Red Line as it would mean NATO weapons on Russia's border. Western world kept poking the Russian Bear with a stick and big surprise it has reacted...



John 15:13
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-25 07:49:50
February 25 2022 07:49 GMT
#26471
@Biff
It is true that Ukraine is mostly flat. The bigest natural obstacle is Dniepr river. Thats why Belarus allowing attack from its territory is so bad. It allowed Russian to pass unfaltered Dniepr and attack from other side.

@plasmidghost
Kyiv is only 130km from Russian border, 40km from Belarus. Considering they are attacking from Belarus 20km from Kyiv means they made 20km so far. Thats not that impressive to be honest. Lets hope Ukrainians hold.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden932 Posts
February 25 2022 08:14 GMT
#26472
Fighting in Kiev this morning :/
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
February 25 2022 08:19 GMT
#26473
On February 25 2022 16:36 AssyrianKing wrote:
I personally think a war is not warranted whatsoever. The era of the Imperial Ambition of Monarchies and the Cold War is over! But alas some countries, and I blame both sides for this, keep pushing each other needlessly. The saddest part of all is that 2 Orthodox Christian Slavic countries are on the brink of war! Both countries are basically blood brothers whether you like to admit it or not.

But honestly I think the blame is with NATO... Geo-Politics is primarily the most important reason for this conflict
Russia and Ukraine are neighboring countries. The EU and NATO want Ukraine to join its organizations. Russia has again and again said that such an action would be a Red Line as it would mean NATO weapons on Russia's border. Western world kept poking the Russian Bear with a stick and big surprise it has reacted...




Citation needed that NATO wants - or even would accept - Ukrainian membership.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9956 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-25 08:24:16
February 25 2022 08:22 GMT
#26474
What fucking stupid pricks at the EU are refusing to ban Russia from Swift?
Why save sanctions for later? That just tells Putin the only thing we have to deter him from further invasions are more fucking sanctions.
Its so dumb.
Just hit him with everything now and make this invasion cost them too much.
Ukraine are doing a heroic job in the most awful circumstances and EU politicians are too fucking scared to do their bit.
Shame.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden932 Posts
February 25 2022 08:25 GMT
#26475
On February 25 2022 17:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
What fucking stupid pricks at the EU are refusing to ban Russia from Swift?
Why save sanctions for later? That just tells Putin the only thing we have to deter him from further invasions are more fucking sanctions.
Its so dumb.
Just hit him with everything now and make this invasion cost them too much.
Ukraine are doing a heroic job in the most awful circumstances and EU politicians are too fucking scared to do their bit.
Shame.


That would be germany/italy/cyprus from what I can tell
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9956 Posts
February 25 2022 08:34 GMT
#26476
On February 25 2022 17:25 Kreuger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2022 17:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
What fucking stupid pricks at the EU are refusing to ban Russia from Swift?
Why save sanctions for later? That just tells Putin the only thing we have to deter him from further invasions are more fucking sanctions.
Its so dumb.
Just hit him with everything now and make this invasion cost them too much.
Ukraine are doing a heroic job in the most awful circumstances and EU politicians are too fucking scared to do their bit.
Shame.


That would be germany/italy/cyprus from what I can tell

I'm ashamed for them, genuinely. What a bunch of cowards.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-25 08:41:43
February 25 2022 08:39 GMT
#26477
Germany is dependant on Russia and Italy is selling Russians industrial machines and equipment. I think it is too late right now to do anything about that. I can only hope that german population will now see what is shown to them in plain sight and demand change.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
February 25 2022 08:48 GMT
#26478
I'm not well versed on this, but I saw some discussion that the SWIFT ban isn't quite as significant as it's made to be. There are already sanctions in place against processing Russian transactions, SWIFT is just the system that communicates those. I.e. messages about deposits and withdrawals might move, but the actual deposits or withdrawals aren't being completed so money isn't moving either way.

If someone is more knowledgeable about international banking this would be interesting to hear about.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8150 Posts
February 25 2022 08:48 GMT
#26479
On February 25 2022 17:34 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2022 17:25 Kreuger wrote:
On February 25 2022 17:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
What fucking stupid pricks at the EU are refusing to ban Russia from Swift?
Why save sanctions for later? That just tells Putin the only thing we have to deter him from further invasions are more fucking sanctions.
Its so dumb.
Just hit him with everything now and make this invasion cost them too much.
Ukraine are doing a heroic job in the most awful circumstances and EU politicians are too fucking scared to do their bit.
Shame.


That would be germany/italy/cyprus from what I can tell

I'm ashamed for them, genuinely. What a bunch of cowards.

They are saying no one quite knows what wiuld be the consequences and whether -and how fast - Russia could go around the problem.

I don’t know enough to have an opinion. The sanctions look weak, but i think that the players involved see the long game.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8150 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-25 08:54:52
February 25 2022 08:51 GMT
#26480
Marine Le Pen keeps defending Putin. What a sickening clown. Obviously her party being directly financed by Moscow probably means her hands are tied but Jesus, what a pond scum.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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