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sharkie
Austria18553 Posts
former Greens boss started working at a gambling company | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
The Austrian Greens are self-destructing at the moment. They lost 8.5% and fell out of parliament last autumn in the general elections, due to all sorts of internal scandals, including the resignation of the longtime party leader Mrs Glawischnig. Some of those incidents did happen in Carinthia, which led to a split of the party there (they reached like 0.1%). The whole party is a mess at this point, they used to be rather popular for their anti-corruption stance, but it was turned into a feel-good girls club in the past years under Mrs Glawischnigs control and drove away some of their most proficient personal. Additionally, two days ago, Mrs Glawischnig, who comes from Carinthia, thought it would be a good time to announce her new job at Novomatic. Which ist the biggest private gambling company in the country and has been regularily under heavy fire from the Green party. For their busniess practices as well as political corruption including the previous ÖVP-FPÖ government. It was the major topic of the past few days in all the headlines (the Green party immidiately reacted and Mrs Glawischnig was forced to terminate her party membership within hours). | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Yuljan
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On March 05 2018 06:30 Nyxisto wrote: German Greens seem to be doing quite well, have climbed up to about 13% from their usual ~9-10% after the recent election. Well of course, they are feeding off you, aren't they?  | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
I do think though it's not just about siphoning voters. They're also striking an interesting ideological crossover between environmental / progressive green values on the one hand and conservative economic voters on the other. Pragmatic Green politicians like Kretschmann are very popular at the moment. During the jamaika talks it already seemed like the Greens and the CDU had a much easier time than the FDP and CDU. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
https://www.fes.de/strategy-debates-global/strategy-debates-germany/ this overview has a section on the greens edit: also what the fuck is going on in italy | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
The SPD is probably the biggest loser but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those actually end up non-voters (basicly helping everyone) or AfD voters. I don't really see them going to the Greens. At least not more than other parties would lose towards the greens. Like Nyxisto already mentioned the environmental aspect combined with the conservative economics wouldn't make it all that hard to go from CDU to Greens imo. That could be bias though as it's kinda what happened to me. I don't see FDP voters (the other party losing a lot) going over to SPD either. So those will all go Greens or possibly CDU. It's really only the politicians that think CDU+Greens is impossible imoimo But hey, maybe we'll have Green overtake the AFD in the future to claim 2nd biggest party in Germany. I'd be all up for that | ||
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VHbb
689 Posts
On March 05 2018 07:51 Nyxisto wrote: edit: also what the fuck is going on in italy we fucked up big time | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
To me it looks like he lost heavily and I would expect Salvini and Lega to claim the leadership of the right-wing, but I have little clue on how those alliances work in Italy. Also, with PD-Forza being out of the question, it seems like the liberal parts of media are running out of baskets to put their eggs in. You'd expect the self-proclaimed intellectual elites to understand that when people are pissed you can't keep on leading into the same direction, but it seems like they rather declare everyone with a different opinion an extremist. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
- Fascism was never a menace, just propaganda play by the same stale, sad parties and newspapers. 'Black wave', blabla...result: 0,8%. But I already knew that. PD and LEU wanted to bank on that but it backfired heavily (so glad it did) - Huge victory for 5S. They will play a big role in the next government for sure. - Berlusconi lost, yes. The result isn't good and he is being carried by Salvini. He probably thought he could have more than him but anyways don't forget that the center-right coalition is the 1st power. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On March 03 2018 21:08 TheDwf wrote: Two electoral tests On the 4/03 and 11/03, two new by-elections occur, following the previous législatives partielles. + Show Spoiler + So far, Macron's party lost in all elections. In September, they got far less senators than what they expected (somewhat normal given the voting method, but still); in 3 municipales, they did not even reach the second round; and they lost both législatives partielles last month (link above). For the two coming elections: The 973-02 (which is an Overseas territory, in Guyane) election was very close in June 2017: the macronist won with only 57 votes (out of 12k votes) more than his challenger, a trade unionist marked as “left-wing regionalist” who had been a local figure of the 2017 social movement in Guyane. What changes with the reelection is that this guy is now supported by the FI (the main left-wing force, consistently considered the main opponent according to polls), and will join their group if he wins. Mélenchon had arrived first in the présidentielle in Guyane, with 24,72% of the votes (+5 points compared with the national average). Should the same duel occur in the second round, there is a decent chance that the FI gets a 18th député by beating a macronist, which would be considered a bad omen for the government and a contrario, an excellent symbol for the opposing left. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/nVWVNBo.jpg) Results last June for the first 4 candidates. REM = Macron (winner of the second round) REG = The now FI-supported challenger The third candidate was affiliated to some small party linked with the PS. The 31-08 district is interesting because it's historically a left-wing constituency. The PS holds it without interruption since 1988 (the district was created in 1986). In 2012, the PS candidate even won right away in the first round with 51,6% of the votes. And when the PS lost 90% of its députés following Macron's election, the 31-08 elected one of the 30 PS survivors, winning with 91 more votes than his macronist rival (over 34k expressed votes). Bad luck, the election was cancelled… and now the perspective of the reelection seems very uncertain for the former PS winner. In June 2017, he was “only” 1 600 votes ahead of the FI candidate out of 43.5k expressed votes; so if PS voters desert, or some switch to the FI, there is a possibility that he doesn't even reach the second round. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/TkKHRBB.jpg) Results last June for the first 5 candidates. REM = Macron SOC = PS (winner of the second round) FN = far-right FI = left UDI = centre-right (allied with the right) Mélenchon is taking very seriously those elections; he held a meeting in the 31-08, and is spending a whole week in the 973-02, even staying there until the results of the first round are announced. During the meeting, he said that he's hoping for a “thunderclap” in those “popular lands”. On paper both districts look winnable for the FI, but they might run into the wall of differential abstention (the FI electorate is, among others, composed of lower classes and young people who demobilize far more easily), especially as the abstention in those by-elections can skyrocket to 70-80%, perhaps even 90% in Guyane… At any rate, should Macron's party lose again those by-elections, it will make some noise. Well, surprisingly the participation actually rose in Guyane, from 26% in June 2017 to 35% yesterday. It's quite extraordinary for a by-election, where a massive increase in abstention is often the rule. The second round will be the same as in June 2017. It's hard to compare directly, as some candidates dropped since June and others arrived, but: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/XfCkeu7.jpg) - The incumbent macronist député (also supported by the centre-right this time) arrived first again with 43,1%, i.e. +2332 votes and +6,7 points of expressed votes. - His challenger (independent in June, FI-supported now) got 35,1%, gaining 2823 votes and 14,8 points of expressed votes. - The third candidate, local variant of the PS, got 10,1% of the votes and 1385 votes. In June the 2012 député, roughly on the same political space, had scored 19,45% of the votes (1919 votes). - The FN, who had not presented any candidate in June, got 1,8% of the votes yesterday. The far-right has probably no local implantation there, so this minuscule score is not indicative, but Le Pen had arrived second with 24,3% of the votes in the présidentielle. Can't explain those results. - A macronist dissident scored 2%. The second round should be close. | ||
Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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ByteCurious
19 Posts
On March 05 2018 23:14 Dangermousecatdog wrote: two different lines for genders.. How very unwoke of them. Where would I queue as a demi-cloud Beethoven-the-dog-not-the-composer-gender? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On March 05 2018 23:47 ByteCurious wrote: How very unwoke of them. Where would I queue as a demi-cloud Beethoven-the-dog-not-the-composer-gender? Wtf is unwoke? | ||
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