i find it hard to believe that its just not a normal picture thats drawn by someone with a mental disorder i dont get how there would be a hint that would show this in a picture.

fanta[Rn]

Japan2465 Posts

December 03 2006 01:56 GMT

#23

well the thing which i noticed is that this might be all the same just in different timezones.
seeing the skiers on the left side showing up on the right side again, standing and talking made me think like that. Also this video

kinda shows the same theory. So this might be a fear of time? time passing? future?
But then again this "professor" said something about air and water and open spaces which makes "my" theory kinda wrong.

benevolence

Peru34 Posts

December 03 2006 01:58 GMT

#24

hahaha that music rocks, do u know whats the name of that song? I want it

fusionsdf

Canada15390 Posts

December 03 2006 02:05 GMT

#25

Okay. I tried to get a clean viewing with no knowledge of the backstory. The person I sent this image to has no idea who drew it, or for what purpose.

1: http://pics.livejournal.com/shaltai_baltai/pic/00001ykp
2: wtf
1: tell me what you think of that pcture
2: what do you mean?
1: in general; interpret it
2: small town in christmas, there are horse sled races with 3 kids on each sled and one of the sleds is on fire
2: around christmas
1: what feeling does it give?
2: "wtf"
1: more than that :/
2: uhh
2: kind of calming
2: until I see the kids sled on fire
1: this is going to sound strange
1: but if you could hear this painting, what would it sound like?
2: roller coaster tycoomn
2: the sounds of people in that
2: o_o
2: oh that plus "HOLY SHIT IM ON FUCKING FIRE
1: would you say that this painting is overall a negative or positive picture?
2: positive
2: barely because one of those kids is gonna get burned alive
1: If I told you to ignore the fire for a bit
2: oh
1: and look for other interpretations
2: no you didn't
2: oh
2: wait
2: nevermind I'm retarded
1: maybe some of which wouldnt be literal interpretations
2: it looks like peoplein a small town having fun
1: what would you say?
2: to the positive/negative question?
1: to the painting in general
1: If you were to ignore specific objects
2: o_o
2: okay okay what's the question again?
2: I'm confused
1: so answer abstractly
2: but
2: whjat's the question?
1: do you have any different interpretations if you ignore the "fire"?
2: well all the negative stuff goes away
1: try to look at the whole painting without focusing on details
1: would you say the painting is comforting, or fear inducing as a whole?
2: comforting
1: thank you
2: so
2: wtf was this for?
1: http://duggmirror.com/health/What_is_the_insane_secret_of_this_painting/
1: http://www.veryrussian.net/2006/the-mystery-painting-almost-there.html

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The thing Ive noticed myself in terms of differences is a darker image, with more use of primary colours, and more negative space

fanta[Rn]

Japan2465 Posts

December 03 2006 02:05 GMT

#26

oh yeah, and that lead me to the theory that everything might be repetitive. something like a circle, never ending - always the same.
He might fear a repetitive life, all his life being the same old and boring shit over and over again

i start to think that, like someone mentioned before, this is something like a joke - the thing you interpret in there is the thing that you are afraid of. At least this "repetitive" life is one fear of mine.

Eniram

Sudan3166 Posts

December 03 2006 02:07 GMT

#27

The horses in the middle have a weird stride.

0x64

Finland4637 Posts

December 03 2006 02:14 GMT

#28

Noone seemed to noticed that all the 3 sledge... the horse are the same...
only the position of the leg of the third horse vary a bit.

edit: hmm okay they are not. And it was said that it was not in the details.

i can notice that It is night and you can clearly see. Im from finland and know how dark it is even with citylights

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

December 03 2006 02:19 GMT

#29

Another Kuplin's work:

original:

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

December 03 2006 02:23 GMT

#30

Personally, professors clue aside i would say this is about windows. If a person was to draw something from his phobia, his fear, he would be trying to express himself in a way where he would be somewhat shielded from it. I would assume that he is afraid of dark/enclosed spaces, therefore all the buildings are filled with windows.

however professor says water, and him copying aivazovsky's painting supports it. Fear of drowning?

Hollow

Canada2180 Posts

December 03 2006 02:34 GMT

#31

is it just me or it looks like there is fire behind the middle sled?

Manit0u

Poland17843 Posts

December 03 2006 02:36 GMT

#32

The first picture shows the fear of being alone.

benevolence

Peru34 Posts

December 03 2006 02:54 GMT

#33

I that the guy thats turning the painting in that video is naked xd

Vi)Chris

United States700 Posts

December 03 2006 02:59 GMT

#34

I'm think I'm going to say that it would be easy to postulate a bunch of "just-so" stories as to the painting's meaning and that landing the "right" answer would constitute luck. I mean if someone draws a crowded picture with people in it, does it mean that person is afraid of isolation? I think this type of guessing constitutes a larger problem about psychology in general. Once someone is found to be insane, you can look at their past and see how they came that way... but just looking at the person without knowing their past, it would be impossible to come up with the right story. Also, someone who has a similar background could be completely normal.

In summation I guess, it's easy in retrospect to come up with adequate "just-so" stories but it's just a bunch of crap really. Now I think one can get a sense of a person's personality through many works or an overarching view of their career, such as Munch. But from one picture?

P.S. I find the picture with the water cool, the reflective quality of the water against the sun is done better than I am used to.

Dametri

United States726 Posts

December 03 2006 03:00 GMT

#35

I clicked on the picture before reading the original post or the thread and looked at it by itself, and I have to say it freaked me out for no apparent reason. Am I alone in this?

Asta

Germany3491 Posts

December 03 2006 03:04 GMT

#36

my first impression was also that if you take all the objects away you are left with a hill that resembles some body part (ass or tits, doesn't matter). but that doesn't match with the other hints about fear of open spaces, sound, water and air...

someone said it might be the fear of running water or rain because the painter is happy when the water is frozen.

i think it's obvious that it has nothing to do with the houses or the people because those aren't in the center of his picture (unlike in the original).
i'm pretty sure it does have something to do with the blue spot in the middle. it's probably some frozen pond. it's weird that it's located on top of a hill.

pyrogenetix

China5098 Posts

December 03 2006 03:06 GMT

#37

without reading the text and seeing the pic i thot it was pretty ok.

then i read the text and looked at it and started thinking something was wrong.

i would say its the way all the horses have their hooves outstretched? thats kinda weird isnt it???
or that there are no single ppl

there are no hoove tracks in the snow behind the sleigh and wouldnt the horses be really cold without like... any clothing? like horse clothes?

Dametri

United States726 Posts

December 03 2006 03:10 GMT

#38

On December 03 2006 12:06 pyrogenetix wrote:
without reading the text and seeing the pic i thot it was pretty ok.

then i read the text and looked at it and started thinking something was wrong.

i would say its the way all the horses have their hooves outstretched? thats kinda weird isnt it???
or that there are no single ppl

there are no hoove tracks in the snow behind the sleigh and wouldnt the horses be really cold without like... any clothing? like horse clothes?

The sleds pulled behind them would eliminate any hoofprints
I don't know much about horses, but unless they weren't native to russia, I'd imagine the horses could survive in that temperature.

If they were galloping, all the horses would have their hooves out, though the symmetry of the middle set's spread is kind of weird.

z7-TranCe

Canada3171 Posts

December 03 2006 03:14 GMT

#39

On December 03 2006 12:00 Dametri wrote:
I clicked on the picture before reading the original post or the thread and looked at it by itself, and I have to say it freaked me out for no apparent reason. Am I alone in this?

nope,i wouldn't say it freaked me out but i did make me a bit uneasy.hard to explain,like its a painting of a happy scene,but the vibe you get is totally opposite of what it actually is

Excalibur_Z

United States12252 Posts

December 03 2006 03:15 GMT

#40

I'd say the most glaring differences I can find are the repeated primary colors in the insane painting. Additionally, the perspective is completely different (in both sets of paintings) - the insane artist draws much steeper lines and from a higher-up perspective, similar to a fisheye lens. Something less striking but still notable is that everybody in the "insane" painting is wearing some kind of hat. I don't see what "hearing" in the painting would have to do with anything, other than as someone said before it looks like the sleds are on sleeker ground, with fluffy snow on the right bank, leading us to believe they're on ice.