EPTSettle this Fight Debate - Page 9
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Way
Canada565 Posts
On November 26 2006 13:22 Protoss-Fighting wrote: This is all scenerio action/reaction, I'd say the bat dude gets to do the action as the knife does the counter or reaction, Kinda like pvz. Scenerio 1: Bat swings at you, all you do is block with your arm and stab, im sorry bat guy will not be fast enough to dodge OUT OF ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, since both players are equally fast/strong, and knfe guy has the momentum advantage. Its like knife guy has a +1, but both in the beginning are 5's 5+1 (momentum advantage) > 5. Scenerio 2. Batter crouches and goes for your legs, IF your running at them and they hit you straight up on the kneecap, you will fall forward, and with your arms reached out YOU CAN DEFINATELY stab him anywhere from his neck/chest/head. Because from your knee ---> tip of ur hand, You exceed in range as your falling towards him, he has no time to dodge,parry, HEADSHOT with a knife. If both are equally fast strong, There is no way in hell the batter is gonna get a K.O in 1 shot, all a knifer has to do is sacrifice his arm, unless the bat swing is below waist (in which it wud be hard) but then scenerio 2 reaction comes into play. its spelt scenario, and you're from the US? scenario 1: knife guy momentum advantage lol? if you let the bat guy get first hit on you as some sort of sacrificial move you're going to be thrown off balance and you're giving the bat guy advantage, not the other way around. this is not street fighter, you dont get hit with something and you do a counter attack for bonus points and expect your body to feel nothing when you first get hit scenario 2: dumbass scenario you must've been taking a shit when you made this scenario up | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
On November 26 2006 13:22 Protoss-Fighting wrote: I ignored everything previously discussed in this thread. fixed. | ||
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Way
Canada565 Posts
hahahahaha | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
if i had the knife though, i would try running fast towards the batter, try to feint him into swinging high and then dive low and take out his feet (with a tackle, not your knife lol...), you may take a hit whose strength will depend on your feint's success, but even a full strength downward swing is better than a straight swing, and at least you'd take him off his feet, at which point a knife has advantage, because you can just start jabbing shit. EDIT: that's just what i'd do if i had the knife, i'd much rather have the bat though :/ | ||
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
i.e. it wouldn't do any damage, so knifer would destroy batman in that scenario even worse | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
On November 26 2006 13:42 Polemarch wrote: about the crouching thing... someone earlier suggested it as a strategy to use when wielding the bat. but try crouching and pretending you're swinging a bat. it's weak as hell, because you don't get the strength from twisting your body and waist. i.e. it wouldn't do any damage, so knifer would destroy batman in that scenario even worse getting low defies all logic in this fight. You lower your mobility and make yourself vunerable to the leverage of height/length. | ||
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
edit: i meant a deep crouch, like a squat. bending your knees slightly would be helpful | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On November 26 2006 13:43 Wysp wrote: getting low defies all logic in this fight. You lower your mobility and make yourself vunerable to the leverage of height/length. wont getting low give you a lower centre of gravity or w/e? anyway i play tennis and all, before you swing (or actually you should be at all times) you have to crouch slightly, one leg in front of the other. otherwise i get shitty shots. o.O | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
 now if it was only something constructive  | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
On November 26 2006 13:47 alffla wrote: wont getting low give you a lower centre of gravity or w/e? anyway i play tennis and all, before you swing (or actually you should be at all times) you have to crouch slightly, one leg in front of the other. otherwise i get shitty shots. o.O Your getting lower so you can use your core muscles in the shot, by lowering yourself in this situation you expose the back of your head and decrease maneuverability. Thats if you have knife, I can't think why you'd want to crouch with the bat and remove your advantage of range. | ||
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Alborz
Canada1551 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On November 26 2006 14:04 Wysp wrote: Your getting lower so you can use your core muscles in the shot, by lowering yourself in this situation you expose the back of your head and decrease maneuverability. Thats if you have knife, I can't think why you'd want to crouch with the bat and remove your advantage of range. hmm exposing back of my head and decreasing maneuverability? and crouching would give more power to my swing though wouldn't it.. also i think in a crouched position it'd be a better position to run away with as well. you dont see olympic runners standing straight as a telephone pole at the start positions right == | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
If both fighters were unskilled with physical combat, I'd say the bat. Explanation: it's difficult to hit someone with a bat in the right way so as to disable them. Once the knife-fighter gets in close, it's over. I went to a mainly caldean high school, so I got in a lot of fights with the arrogant Italian-wannabes. I've notices that in fist fights, it's hard to get a solid punch on another person, much more so than it looks as a bystander. People move, or throw their arms up, or you don't throw it straight. I'd assume the same principles apply to using a bat or other non-fist objects. | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
On November 26 2006 14:15 alffla wrote: hmm exposing back of my head and decreasing maneuverability? and crouching would give more power to my swing though wouldn't it.. also i think in a crouched position it'd be a better position to run away with as well. you dont see olympic runners standing straight as a telephone pole at the start positions right == What you're talking about is natural posture in movement, when you say crouch think of the first James Bond video game/ Perfect Dark crouching. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
yeah i know i'm a little lamb waiting to be slaughtered on the streets. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10495 Posts
On November 26 2006 14:43 oneofthem wrote: bat. I would honestly not be able to use a knife or gun. I will maybe use a bat to hit the guy's arms or something. :/ yeah i know i'm a little lamb waiting to be slaughtered on the streets. and you're an anarchist? that's funny | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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