EPTSettle this Fight Debate - Page 11
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NewbSaibot
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
after getting hit once by someone who isn't a weakling swinging with a bat, you are basically incapable of doing anything else. all these people saying "absorb" or "block" the bat swing simply have never taken a bat to the arm or side before. yeah ok, you'll block it with your arm, which will shatter into many pieces and you'll still be able to run and stab the bat guy, sure. and theres no fucking way he's going to miss with the bat. i mean you're not fucking mario or ryu from streetfighter, you are normal human being who cannot move fast enough to dodge a bat. this is whats going to happen. bat guy walks up to you, swings, hits you, you maybe or maybe not get off a slash or stab at his arms or shoulder or leg or whatever. once you get hit once and some bones break or you are stunned, its over because the next time you're getting hit in the head. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
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Freezer_au
Australia1461 Posts
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
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NewbSaibot
3849 Posts
On November 26 2006 19:13 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: Ok so you've been hit by a bat (we'll go ahead and assume it was by a very strong martial arts practitioner), have you ever been stabbed with a knife? Theres only two places youre going to die relatively quickly when stabbed with a knife, the heart or the neck. And whaddya know, those are two of the most difficult if not down right impossible places to successfully and coordinately pinpoint a strike. i'm not about to read through 11 pages, but i can tell you i've been cracked with a bat before and it didn't kill me. with a knife, you could just lunge and one cut to the throat = gg. plus, there's a longer swing time with a bat. | ||
Empyrean
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
On November 26 2006 19:27 NewbSaibot wrote: Ok so you've been hit by a bat (we'll go ahead and assume it was by a very strong martial arts practitioner), have you ever been stabbed with a knife? Theres only two places youre going to die relatively quickly when stabbed with a knife, the heart or the neck. And whaddya know, those are two of the most difficult if not down right impossible places to successfully and coordinately pinpoint a strike. no, i've never been stabbed. i'd be dead. my point exactly. and how hard is it to stab someone in the neck? i don't really know how to argue that, i'm missing how it's so hard. plus, the first thing i would do is get the bat out of the other guy hand's (which would be alot easier than trying to take a knife) | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On November 26 2006 18:04 NewbSaibot wrote: I find it hard to believe anyone here has ever defended themselves against baseball bat or knife attacks, so it's funny watching everyone present this moment by moment timeline of exactly what will happen when 1 swings or the other, but the biggest crux of this stupid argument is the fact that both men are equally skilled. Theres not going to be a wild crazy swing that misses and is followed up with a stab to the gut, because the batman would already see this coming. Therefore all you can look at is the weapon. A baseball bat by itself is more damaging in one hit than a knife against anything. Against a tree, against bricks, against a car, and against the human body. You place a baseball bat and a knife side by side on a table and give someone one hit against an object and ask them which of the items will do the most damage, what do you think theyre going to pick? A knife cant do shit unless used repeatedly, i.e. multiple stabbings. All it takes is one hit from a baseball bat ANYWHERE on the body and you are essentially worthless at this point. You arent going to block a bat with your arm, because your entire arm is going to cave in and your whole body is going to contort to the impact and flail over on the ground as the bat moves through you like a battering ram. Thats the stupidest experiment ever. Its not about who will do more damage against a wall. If you honestly believe that if someone takes a knife and is allowed to stab anywhere they want -- and that the victim will not die and will not be significantly hurt, then I don't have any further words to waste on you. A baseball bat against a person who doesnt strike back, wont dodge, and wont block will one hit ko. almost certainly the person will survive - may even avoid brain damage and have nothing worse thatn a serious concusion. A knife will kill. But thats beside the point. These guys arent knights, and they arent going to take turns like some retarded version of roshambo. Both will try to block, and both will try to dodge. The crucial thing to note is that the knife-wielder is the attacker, while the bat-wielder is the defender. I will go for the aggressor in this fight to the death. To calm all doubt. I will stand face to face with you. Right up close. Just try to hit me hard. Like siege tanks against zealots. | ||
uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
it's literally rolling on the floor laughing hilarious | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
i'd go with bat, by the time you get close eneogh to stab, your gonna get smacked somewhere with a freaking bat. the knife wielder isnt super man. hell if he was i'm sure he could just be like i'm super man and the other guy would shit himself to death. if you get hit with bat, it hurts. you slow down/stop/get stunned, get hit again, hurts more rinse and repeat btw i think flipping the bat would work best | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=m-16&word2=knife | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
I choose the bat. Unless the person with the knife is very nimble and the person with the bat has 20/120 vision and not wearing his glasses. | ||
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miyavi
Canada245 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On November 26 2006 20:28 ZaplinG wrote: Knife takes more skill than a bat to do damage I choose the bat. Unless the person with the knife is very nimble and the person with the bat has 20/120 vision and not wearing his glasses. How much skill do you think it takes to stab someone? I'll say it again. If knife fighter gets close, its gg for the bat guy. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
On November 26 2006 19:59 Yogurt wrote: btw i think flipping the bat would work best nice. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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NewbSaibot
3849 Posts
On November 26 2006 19:50 fusionsdf wrote: You obviously have absolutely no concept of human fragility, so i too am done with this conversation. A baseball bat against a person who doesnt strike back, wont dodge, and wont block will one hit ko. almost certainly the person will survive - may even avoid brain damage and have nothing worse thatn a serious concusion. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
On November 26 2006 20:33 fusionsdf wrote: How much skill do you think it takes to stab someone? I'll say it again. If knife fighter gets close, its gg for the bat guy. With a knife, its up to luck whether or not you hit something important with your stab With a bat, you can hit anywhere and just cause massive destruction. Guy with the bat just cant let the knife man get close. Thats what the battle would be about. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On November 26 2006 20:41 NewbSaibot wrote: You obviously have absolutely no concept of human fragility, so i too am done with this conversation. Um what? I've been there while someone got struck in the head with a baseball bat. And that still has absolutely nothing to do with the problem. Both can take out the other in one hit. Im going to assume you believe this. That doesnt matter. The point is that the batter has a minimum range while the knife fighter doesnt. The max range for the bat isnt long enough to make him invincible. All of his attacks are easier to read than knife attacks. | ||
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