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Tezumai
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden19 Posts
November 26 2006 16:35 GMT
#241
If you were to miss with the bat you would be fucked. 5 stabs in the throat, ggnore.
Thus, the bat is ineffective at short range.

Therefor I would rather take the butterfly and wait for the batterguy to make his move.
How can you thrust anyone that bleeds one week in the month without dying?
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 26 2006 16:39 GMT
#242
and i would rather take the bat and wait for you to make your move, its a tie, yay
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 16:52:11
November 26 2006 16:42 GMT
#243
nevermind, lost interest. Kinda silly debate :p
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 26 2006 16:57 GMT
#244
boxer with a knife vs nada with a bat gogo !!!!
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 26 2006 17:35 GMT
#245
it took 13 pages but I just saw a "boxer" joke in a thread completely unrelated.

/afk poking eyes out with butterfly knife and smashing head with baseball bat
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 17:45:18
November 26 2006 17:44 GMT
#246
look, its been 13 pages, someone had to do it or the whole thread would get ruined, boxer is related to EVERYTHING, and nada, well he just stands there looking pretty, anyways i think the poll is settling this debate
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
coolio
Profile Joined February 2006
Finland196 Posts
November 26 2006 17:49 GMT
#247
AHHAHA 400apm knifeboy vs 50apm batboy gg no nore for knife boy rolfl..

Starcraft jokes stop here...
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
November 26 2006 18:03 GMT
#248
On November 27 2006 01:35 Tezumai wrote:
If you were to miss with the bat you would be fucked. 5 stabs in the throat, ggnore.
Thus, the bat is ineffective at short range.

Therefor I would rather take the butterfly and wait for the batterguy to make his move.


Once again, there is more than one way to attack with a baseball bat. You don't have to swing it like you're hitting a baseball. It's a far more versatile tool than that. You can poke/jab with it right to the other guys face, kinda like a spear stab.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 26 2006 18:20 GMT
#249
i dont know why should we stop with the starcraft jokes, i mean its all related, just look at those pro gaming coaches, wielding bats all the time, now only if one player would stand up to them with a knife !!

baseball bat takes shit from noone
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
sdpgposd
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom1464 Posts
November 26 2006 18:27 GMT
#250
Nice avatar eviltellytubby :D

The bat imo
KovacsFlorian
Profile Joined January 2006
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 19:18:09
November 26 2006 18:50 GMT
#251
On November 26 2006 11:04 BeSiGeR wrote:
for the knife to be used to its full potential the person has to have some kind of training, the bat does not, any retard can swing, its just about keeping distance, and you dont only have the bat, kicking is also a good way for keeping distance


True. Using the knife effectively is not easy. Anyone used a bat before to hit something. I don't know if the same goes for knife...

How many of you used a bat before to hit something and how many of you used a knife to stab something? The guy with the knife would hesitate to rush with an all-in forward move against the guy that swings the bat.

The guy with the bat doesn't need precision. He'll just hit in a general area, starting from knees, up to the head. The blow is circular; if it's in range, it will not miss.

The guy with the knife can not go for the head or hands because they are too fast moving targets. It will go for the torso. But to get in range, he needs to avoid the bat swing. And as I said, the determined bat swing has very high changes of sucess.

Any serious fight has an very important emotional part. The system is full of adrenaline. A full bat swing is like a discharge of anger. Hit like a train whatever mother fucker it is in front of you!
The guy with the knife must control he's anger to get in range without being hit. And control is hard to achieve of you are not trained in fighting. When you are angry and full of adrenaline, there is no room for logical thoughts, reason. You won't even see the bat coming. It will smash you like a potato.

You talking to me? You talking to me? You talking to me? Then who the hell else are you talking to? You talking to me? Well, I am the only one here. Who do the fuck do you think you are talking to? Oh, yeah? Ok.
Kochen
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark154 Posts
November 26 2006 19:27 GMT
#252
There are a lot of misconceptions in this thread

1) People assume a knife stab is lethal no matter where on the body you hit.
2) People assume the bat man knows exactly when the knife man is going to attack for real.
3) People assume they can take a bat blow anywhere on the body without staggering the least.
4) People assume the bat man can swing the bat five times a second at full speed without losing balance for as much as a nanosecond.
5) People assume too much about an average guy.

I would personally go for the knife, and keep my distance until the bat man loses his precious balance a short second while he misjudged a swing.
KovacsFlorian
Profile Joined January 2006
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-26 19:33:54
November 26 2006 19:32 GMT
#253
On November 27 2006 04:27 Kochen wrote:
There are a lot of misconceptions in this thread

1) People assume a knife stab is lethal no matter where on the body you hit.
2) People assume the bat man knows exactly when the knife man is going to attack for real.
3) People assume they can take a bat blow anywhere on the body without staggering the least.
4) People assume the bat man can swing the bat five times a second at full speed without losing balance for as much as a nanosecond.
5) People assume too much about an average guy.

I would personally go for the knife, and keep my distance until the bat man loses his precious balance a short second while he misjudged a swing.


In a real fight, if you have no training, you'll never get the counter timming right. Timming is the most hard thing to achieve. You can train your strength, execution... But you'll get the timming right, only after alot of training. The bat guy doesn't need timming. The knife guy does. We are talking here about 0.2 / 0.3 seconds timing.
You talking to me? You talking to me? You talking to me? Then who the hell else are you talking to? You talking to me? Well, I am the only one here. Who do the fuck do you think you are talking to? Oh, yeah? Ok.
testpat
Profile Joined November 2003
United States565 Posts
November 26 2006 19:44 GMT
#254
When i was kid, me and my best friend had a argument whether a sap or a knife was a better weapon. Since we didn't have the internet to help us, we decided to settle it using substitute weapons. I got a piece of cheap plywood about 12 inches long, he got a long sock weighted with batteries.

So we square off, sizing each other up. The sock/battery has a longer range, but to do damage it needs to be moving. So i decide to I ducked just inside his swinging range, he swung, i ducked back, then stepped back in, putting my right arm over his neck and shoulder, and drove the plywood into his stomach - where it shattered.

I look back at this and wonder - wtf was i thinking?

btw - i didn't win the argument, he said all it proved is i was better with a weapon.
Suppose I don't know taste of common salt & I want to know it.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 26 2006 19:59 GMT
#255
didn't read any arguments
but I say the knife, definitely



with the bat you get one swing. if you swing too hard and put too much behind it, it wouldn't be that hard to dodge it or at least block it well(which isn't going to even break the arms of the most guys).

the knife, however, is deadly in close combat, which is where this fight is going to quickly go.

not to mention that if one of them is good at it, they can throw the knife.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
November 26 2006 20:15 GMT
#256
On November 26 2006 13:05 alffla wrote:
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On November 26 2006 12:59 pyrogenetix wrote:
id take knife

you need to swing bat really hard at head to fracture skull = kill
or swing hard at ribs to break ribs = kill
or swing hard at legs and break legs = no mobility and then kill

but knife

stab into the sides of the body, neck, thigh and then twist knife when inside wound = gg no re bleeding

just block his bat swing and break your forearm and then counter stab, he wont be able to retract bat and swing again.


yea w/e rigged toss LOLZ

yea k then i'll like

just block his knife stab and then bleed from my forearm and then counter swing, then he wont be able to stab again.


yes but joo need two hands on bat to swing it hard.

unless you stick the bat up ur ass and do a beyonce ass wiggle and crack pavement... then... no.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 26 2006 20:16 GMT
#257
testpat rofl


anyways, i think this is close either way

and definitely depends on the environment
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
November 26 2006 20:23 GMT
#258
ok guys... just imagine this.

the US government for some reason (not at all completely unlikely) made a clone of you.

he (or she... for the female forumers) is an exact copy of you because this time the scientists didnt fuck up and make a retard clone.

you two are going to fight to the death.

would you honestly choose a long piece of blunt wood instead of a sharp piece of metal.

would you honestly want to go 1v1 all in fight club shit vs yourself with a bat, knowing that if you miss, that knife from your clone is going straight into your body somewhere.


i sure as hell dont.

knife for the mother fucking win.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
November 26 2006 21:13 GMT
#259
Bat >= Knife

for all combat skill levels imo.
('''(G_G/'''')
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
November 26 2006 21:24 GMT
#260
TheDeadHaji wrote in the *make your allstar team* thread
my allstar team:

SKT1 coach
KTF coach (the one with the bat)
Samsung coach
MBC coach
Lecaf coach
Hanbit coach
AND OF COURSE -------------> CJ COACHHHHH~~~~~~~~~~~

the one with the bat

what more is there to say, noone wants a coach with a knife.
I dont think this will ever get settled, unless someone wants to experiment ^^
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