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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
Knife = autodeath upon a good hit. Any other slash with cause severe bleeding, ect. Bat = You get hit without full force, your still able to attack. Can't attack when closer then 2 feet. If this isn't settled by tomorrow, I'm posting a video on YouTube to show you all why knives >>>> baseball bats. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
On November 26 2006 20:54 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: wow this is riduclous. no one just stands in one spot flailing their arms around. if you've got a knife, tackle the guy with the bat, slice his jug, end. haha, no way. you will get clubbed. | ||
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a-I)rei
13 Posts
therefore ud have to be moving with same speed and hed have to be pretty coordinated just get it right - if guy hits u with anything lower then heavy part of that bat, u are fine and if say when he swings u just back off and then jump at him its over knife for sure. im not that dumb) | ||
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gameguard
Korea (South)2132 Posts
On November 26 2006 20:59 a-I)rei wrote: if u just run at a person with a bat he would have to swing at that moment so that bat hits yr body while u passing its range limit therefore hed have to be able to predict yr location at the time therefore ud have to be moving with same speed and hed have to be pretty coordinated just get it right - if guy hits u with anything lower then heavy part of that bat, u are fine and if say when he swings u just back off and then jump at him its over knife for sure. im not that dumb) using sentences could help your case here | ||
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NewbSaibot
3849 Posts
On November 26 2006 20:47 fusionsdf wrote: You've been there when someone just stood still, and let someone else strike them at full power into their head? This was the scenerio you brought up saying how a bad would only knock someone out. Maybe, just MAYBE cause a concussion if theyre lucky. Laff. If i hit you full strength with a baseball bat to the head you would die instantly. Your skull would completely fracture and your brain would hemorrhage. Um what? I've been there while someone got struck in the head with a baseball bat. That doesnt matter. The point is that the batter has a minimum range while the knife fighter doesnt. The max range for the bat isnt long enough to make him invincible. All of his attacks are easier to read than knife attacks. Minimum range? The advantage here is the maximum range. The bat enables him to attack you at a distance where you cannot retaliate. You will always be at a distance too far to even reach him. Yes the attacks are telegraphed, and the only way the bat is going to subdue you is with a very very strong hit. However he is only going to deal that hit when he knows it will impact. If he see's you pull away, he withdraws the swing. If the swing makes contact, you're through. It's simple math. The only confusion here is that some people believe you can duck and cover and let someone wallop you at 100% with a baseball bat, then just look up and stick your puny arm forward and boom they go down from being stabbed one time in the thigh or general torso area. People survive getting stabbed all the time. I wish there were more acts of baseball violence however a bat is not as concealable as a knife and therefore not as popular. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
Knife is a weapon I'd use bat to avoid charges >_> | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
before or after you're stabbed in the face? :D | ||
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a-I)rei
13 Posts
Yes the attacks are telegraphed, and the only way the bat is going to subdue you is with a very very strong hit. However he is only going to deal that hit when he knows it will impact. If he see's you pull away, he withdraws the swing. If the swing makes contact, you're through. It's simple math. imagine 2 guys one swinging one hopping around waiting for a chance who u think gona get tired and stabbed | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
I dont have too much to add excpet knowing a bit about knife throwing that throwing the knife is generally NOT a good idea. I suppose I'd go with knife. Can sacrifice an arm if need to to intercept the bat, also much easier to catch or deflect the bat. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
On November 26 2006 21:06 evanthebouncy~ wrote: Bat is not a weapon Knife is a weapon I'd use bat to avoid charges >_> haha if a cop saw you hitting someone with a bat you'd still get charged with assault with a deadly weapon and have to go to jail, minor or not (i don't know how old you are). | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
I had no idea there were so many hardasses on tl;p | ||
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WhizKid77
China682 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On November 26 2006 10:39 Asta wrote: ppl who said the baseball bat wins are stupid. real fights don't look like boxing or martial arts. it's infight all the way. the only way you can avoid an infight is by running away. if the bat-guy is lucky he hits the other guy but who cares? the knife will still find its way. I'd love to pop you in the face with the end of a bat and see you continue to come at me. I guarantee you that if the guy uses it in a more spear-like fashion the guy with the knife loses. You can come all you want, but you won't be able to get in close enough to do damage. After your nose is broken, and half of your teeth are knocked out from being hit multiple times by a bat in the face, I guarantee you're exhausted, and you're going to fall. That means I can take your knife and kill you with it, or bash your skull with the bat. Also, if you get hit with a bat, full swing, you're going down. You cannot take a hit from a baseball bat. Anyone who says they can are lying to themselves. I doubt many of you have the pain tolerance to take a few cracked ribs, or a busted elbow to keep going and try to take someone on. At the least, you're slowed down enough for the guy with the bat to move away. On November 26 2006 10:54 Cloud wrote: Erm no, i dont think so. Since youre just giving stupid examples how about this one: You, unarmed, with no training at all and whatever, would prefer fighting a guy with a knife, in which a single injury could mean death, or a guy with a bat when broken bones can be mended. And a knife wouldnt do much for you when you are on the floor? Wtf you dont need basically any strenght to thrust a knife into someones flesh, its the bat that is useless once you get stabbed. We aren't living in video game world here, broken bones hurt pretty fucking badly last I checked (and I've broken bones, they hurt to break). Not many people can tolerate broken bones to the point that they have the ability to attack unfazed by it. On November 26 2006 11:10 Cloud wrote: Yeah, while lunging, i mean wtf its specially easier to duck or roll forward while lunging. Besides its obvious that the bat guy is going to swing to your head, so you will be always try to be ready to roll. And no, any average person would not run while having a knife when the other guy has a bat. Anyone can use a knife, not everyone can swing hard enough to knock out cold a guy whos running towards you like if hells was chasing him. It's a hell of a lot easier to KO a guy running at you, because you get the combined force of the blows. Imagine running face first into a brick wall, it's going to hurt. Now, imagine your face is a baseball, and you're getting hit by a baseball bat, it's going to KO you. On November 26 2006 11:26 Cloud wrote: You dont need to know how to throw a knife, missing a throw when hes that close is retarded, just take a well balanced knife like that one, throw it against a wall or whatever, and you will see that its not so damn hard to throw a knife. A butterfly knife is not well-balanced. Try throwing one sometime. Hell, the fucking thing might close itself before it hits the guy, then what? He's got your knife, and his bat. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On November 26 2006 20:50 to miss the mark wrote: How can you say that a bat wins? Knife = autodeath upon a good hit. Any other slash with cause severe bleeding, ect. Bat = You get hit without full force, your still able to attack. Can't attack when closer then 2 feet. If this isn't settled by tomorrow, I'm posting a video on YouTube to show you all why knives >>>> baseball bats. I dare you to let me hit you full swing with a baseball bat and still be able to do anything. Does that mean I would prefer the bat? No, not really. The knife is less conspicuous and easier to carry around. Who would win in baseball bat vs knife depends a lot on both technique and available open space (less space to move makes the bat more clumsy, with movements more predictable). At the highest level in an open space the bat has the advantage due to it's reach since the fighter with the bat will hold his opponent at range and trying to step inside that range means taking a critical blow that at best for the guy with the knife will "merely" limit his ability to move quickly and at worst will kill him on the spot (and if you think a good hit to the head or a hard enough hit to the chest is not fatal, then you are dreaming). | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On November 26 2006 21:06 evanthebouncy~ wrote: Bat is not a weapon Knife is a weapon I'd use bat to avoid charges >_> lololol avoid "assault with a deadly weapon  | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Don't really need justification other then this is merely how I would feel. | ||
KwarK
United States44056 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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