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Hi~
well, everybody here plays chess. and chinese chess?
i realized today that although the pieces moves on a similar way and we have king, rook, pawns, knights....the games is totally diferent.
I think i can beat my father on regular chess, but today i just got owned on chinese chess twice.
so........
to anyone who is average at both
what are the diferences? wich one is more complex? etc?
i think the game on chinese chess is faster also coz there are battles all around the table. while regular chess MAY be more complex?
dunno
opinions?
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the only bad thing about Chineese chess is when the King gets greedy declares communism and all the pawns die.
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international cheese is way way way more complex. Chinese chess is pretty easy so long u follow the required openings.
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On October 29 2006 17:28 baal wrote:
the only bad thing about Chineese chess is when the King gets greedy declares communism and all the pawns die.
Someone is going to be in liquiscoop....
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oh and don't lose ur pawns easily. they are always the game winner. most gosus win their games by having 1 more pawn at the end.
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I only play a little bit of Chinese chess, but I think International Chess is more complicated. The cannon things, somewhat limited horse movement, and the king can't face other king thing IMO makes it a little more complicated rule-wise, but not as complex and diverse as international chess.
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only old people play this in China.
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I used to play a little of both and found them equally difficult. The rules are superficially similiar but with differences that make a significant difference in play. Some examples: elephants can't cross the river and their movement is extremely limited. Cannons have to "jump" over pieces to capture the enemy, which make them less and less powerful as the game progresses, because there are fewer pieces left to "jump" over. Perhaps at higher levels the difference in difficulty is more apparent?
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Well I played Chinese Chess once or twice before. But not nearly enough to make a comparison.
However, I liked Go (played that alot) as much as Chess, and I think it's harder than both of the chess games.
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On October 29 2006 17:28 baal wrote:
the only bad thing about Chineese chess is when the King gets greedy declares communism and all the pawns die.
omg lol!!!!
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In chinese chess, the tides turn over easily since the pieces have unique powers.
IMO, chinese chess> "regular" chess
im an avid Go player  9kyu on KGS
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On October 29 2006 17:31 haduken wrote:
international cheese is way way way more complex. Chinese chess is pretty easy so long u follow the required openings.
u are completely wrong, Chinese chess is way more complex, although it looks simple, it has way more VARIATIONS than regular chess, if u play both very well u'll understand what i said.
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Chinese chess is pretty cool. I kinda suck at it though.
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On October 29 2006 17:54 overuoveruoveru wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2006 17:31 haduken wrote:
international cheese is way way way more complex. Chinese chess is pretty easy so long u follow the required openings. u are completely wrong, Chinese chess is way more complex, although it looks simple, it has way more VARIATIONS than regular chess, if u play both very well u'll understand what i said.
I'm pretty sure international chess is more complex. Even though Chinese chess has more spaces and types of pieces, it is strategically simpler than international chess. There are many more variations of games, but far fewer different positions.
Game complexity
The basic ideas apply to both: at a beginning level, know some basic openings, watch out for the same tactics: the fork, pin, etc. Add in a few different rules: cannon pins, blocking horses and knights. Once you're past that, the strategies aren't too different: develop pieces, fight for control of center and space... if you're good at regular chess, you'll improve pretty quickly at Chinese chess with experience =)
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They're about the same skill wise but it's just international chess is about 100x more popular. Chinese chess tend to freeze. It's like two players wresling into a lock position where if anyone dared to move he'll get owned hardcore where as international chess has less "freeze" moments.
I play both though 
And yeah Old chinese men play chinese chess every single day while wearing short shorts and vests smoking and drinking rice wine xD
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this makes me want to learn chinnese chess
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Chinese Chess gets too many ways to draw afaik... It is also trickier due to the unique nature of the cannon (pao).
But really, Chinese chess is sort of like international chess, minus a few patches that tweak the gameplay.
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imo the complex is about the same inter chess' rule is more complex, unit movement of chinese chess is more complex
i like chinese chess better because of its fast pace, lot of harassing + killing.
inter chess is more positioning ur pwn and all the unit + turtle the king
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