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On May 11 2014 08:39 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2014 08:32 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 11 2014 08:30 Zarahtra wrote:On May 11 2014 08:02 Swisslink wrote:On May 11 2014 07:49 radiatoren wrote:
The crisis in Ukraine, drag queen winning and the gay marriage stunt comes to mind as some of the non-music things that I think this will be remembered for. The booing certainly didn't fit, but if you want a live audience you have to deal with people doing inappropriate things. Well, of course you have to deal with it. But it's still terribly harsh for the two girls. And I was kinda impressed how well they performed today after the booing in the semi-finals tbh. They knew nobody liked them and still they got to perform once again... And the ESC shouldn't be political, since the singers aren't responsible for the crisis... They are still representing their country, a country which is doing quite a lot of dirty deeds as of late. I hope the girls don't take it personally, but I am very happy that the crowd boo'd Russia. And I atleast liked the Austria song, infact it was pretty much the only song I liked. It's kind of funny, I always go into the ESC thinking "god that icelandic song sucks" and then I hear the rest of the songs and go "we might have a shot!"  About this whole booing thing: the strange implication that it actually matters is amusing. I bet my non-existent money on that girls did get the explanation what booing meant or understand it straight away (now that's something i dare to doubt) and the supposed target of booing does not really care for he knows the treatment. I agree, the government of Russia 100% doesn't care what an arena in Denmark does or does not do. That being said, it still shows support for Ukraine and might show Russians how some parts of EU feel about them as it stands, I feel those reasons are good enough to support the booing.
I don't think the booing had anything to do with Ukraine, but all to do with the Russian politicians attacking Conchita Wurst. The people visiting this type of show are generally more interested in glamor, not geopolitical power struggles I think:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/30/russia-boycott-eurovision-gay-parade
Here is a funny quote from the article: "Even just broadcasting the competition in Russia could insult millions of Russians,"
Well, Mr. Milonov, the fact is that the Eurovision Song Contest has insulted millions of Europeans with good music taste for like decades! 
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I liked Russia and Ukraine's songs. Belarus's and France's were probably my least favorite
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I feel only pity for you as a human being if you defend the booing of teenage girls for no reason but their country being disliked.
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This is the COMPLETE opposite of what Eurovision is suppose to represent that all EU countries coming together and compete on the ground solely based upon the singers' talent and hard work.
So far we got a person that wasn't based upon his singing ability but just because it took some "balls" (no pun intended) to dress in a certain way and people booing at a rather 'nice' performance.
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Northern Ireland25114 Posts
From the outsider looking in 100% agreed, but for years now it's been part geo-political circlejerk. From there add novelty acts, hot chicks, a smattering of actual talent and camp kitsch thrown into the mix, the end result being some ungodly but yet oddly compelling spectacle.
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I'm happy that my country didn't participate in the contest this year. Most of the time it's a complete freakshow with bad music on top of it and the countries usually vote for their neighbours no matter what. Now I saw the winner song and I was actually not surprised from what I saw. After Lordi nothing will surprise me.
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Looks like "Pussy Dick" won this bullshit, that's certainly appropriate for such a bullshit contest.
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Looking up through the televoting alone Poland would be in Top 3 probably
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The booing was hilarious. And well, it's not like the result in other years had much to do with the music, or an artist's talent or hard work. Actually, i liked some of these songs better than i have in many years; austria's song wasn't bad at all. Also, i liked the dutch song (i always was embarrassed by our submission, as twisted just reminded me.. Fuck you TT. But this year i wasn't, for the first time in quite a while).
If you can't handle the booing, no matter how disrespectful or undeserved, you should not participate. Publicity is not for the weak of heart.
Edit: Televoting results are fucking ridiculous. >.>
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On May 11 2014 08:52 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2014 08:47 Undead1993 wrote:On May 11 2014 08:39 Zarahtra wrote:On May 11 2014 08:32 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 11 2014 08:30 Zarahtra wrote:On May 11 2014 08:02 Swisslink wrote:On May 11 2014 07:49 radiatoren wrote:
The crisis in Ukraine, drag queen winning and the gay marriage stunt comes to mind as some of the non-music things that I think this will be remembered for. The booing certainly didn't fit, but if you want a live audience you have to deal with people doing inappropriate things. Well, of course you have to deal with it. But it's still terribly harsh for the two girls. And I was kinda impressed how well they performed today after the booing in the semi-finals tbh. They knew nobody liked them and still they got to perform once again... And the ESC shouldn't be political, since the singers aren't responsible for the crisis... They are still representing their country, a country which is doing quite a lot of dirty deeds as of late. I hope the girls don't take it personally, but I am very happy that the crowd boo'd Russia. And I atleast liked the Austria song, infact it was pretty much the only song I liked. It's kind of funny, I always go into the ESC thinking "god that icelandic song sucks" and then I hear the rest of the songs and go "we might have a shot!" About this whole booing thing: the strange implication that it actually matters is amusing. I bet my non-existent money on that girls did get the explanation what booing meant or understand it straight away (now that's something i dare to doubt) and the supposed target of booing does not really care for he knows the treatment. I agree, the government of Russia 100% doesn't care what an arena in Denmark does or does not do. That being said, it still shows support for Ukraine and might show Russians how some parts of EU feel about them as it stands, I feel those reasons are good enough to support the booing. it also gives the russian gouvernment the opportunity to act like they are the victim in the whole crysis. another point is that for me personally being originally from russia it scares me that russian citizens who absolutely have no impact on the political decisions their country make get hated only because they are from russia. this intolerantial behavior is what makes europe look like the win of this man is only a facade they can hide behind. I obviously don't think people should be disturbing normal Russian citizen, but when people are representing their country all bets are off. You get praises aswell as criticisms, and you just have to take it. Ofcourse it'd have been better if the representitive of Russia was older, but I assume being able to go on stage infront of 180M people, you can take a bit of booing. Intolerence behaviour against a nation invading another nation? Yes, well I think I'm going to have to disagree with you, being intolerant against that kind of behavior is quite positive.
you don't understand what i am saying or you are not trying. i'll leave it here
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This is hilarious.
UK has one of the best starting conditions of the field. Its music industry is huge and regularly sets worldwide music trends.
And they have the great advantage to sing in accent free English. For years other countries lobbied to finally to be aloud to use English, since UK, Ireland and Malta always had a significant edge.
But the acts they sent are unsuitable or sometimes simply bad. Nothing to do with politics...
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I think I stoped mocking the guys of Eurovision when I was a teenager, like 15 yo. Almost 20 years ago, 1994 or 1995.
I'm deeply pro EU, and EEC before, but Eurovision...come on...except Abba...It's complete BS. It's like a competition of who will be the worse singer ever...
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This year's Eurovision was quite good. Not many silly acts, and the singers were all relatively good.
Russia getting booed at was great. Only one's I'm sorry for are the two girls, who probably were too brainwashed from living behind the propaganda curtain to even know what the booing was about.
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On May 11 2014 09:13 Pr0wler wrote:
I'm happy that my country didn't participate in the contest this year. Most of the time it's a complete freakshow with bad music on top of it and the countries usually vote for their neighbours no matter what. Now I saw the winner song and I was actually not surprised from what I saw. After Lordi nothing will surprise me.
But Lordi played best song ever in eurovision
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On May 11 2014 09:17 karfussen wrote:http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=GBHere you can check detailed results. Look for example at United Kingdom, Norway, Netherlands or Austria - viewers liked Polish tits but jury hated them  How the results would look if only televoting votes were counted: here
They should remove jury. Its useless and dont say same as people vote.
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erm it's all in English and it sounds like generic so what's the point of this -.- I was expecting something with more "identity" since they are representing their countries.
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Didn´t watch because i think its stupid but i like that it is just a huge bitchslap for russia and its homophobic.
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On May 11 2014 09:17 karfussen wrote:http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=GBHere you can check detailed results. Look for example at United Kingdom, Norway, Netherlands or Austria - viewers liked Polish tits but jury hated them How the results would look if only televoting votes were counted: here
So Poland got 10 points from Germany, but only 8 points from german viewers? What does that say about our jury?
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On May 11 2014 08:52 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2014 08:47 Undead1993 wrote:On May 11 2014 08:39 Zarahtra wrote:On May 11 2014 08:32 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 11 2014 08:30 Zarahtra wrote:On May 11 2014 08:02 Swisslink wrote:On May 11 2014 07:49 radiatoren wrote:
The crisis in Ukraine, drag queen winning and the gay marriage stunt comes to mind as some of the non-music things that I think this will be remembered for. The booing certainly didn't fit, but if you want a live audience you have to deal with people doing inappropriate things. Well, of course you have to deal with it. But it's still terribly harsh for the two girls. And I was kinda impressed how well they performed today after the booing in the semi-finals tbh. They knew nobody liked them and still they got to perform once again... And the ESC shouldn't be political, since the singers aren't responsible for the crisis... They are still representing their country, a country which is doing quite a lot of dirty deeds as of late. I hope the girls don't take it personally, but I am very happy that the crowd boo'd Russia. And I atleast liked the Austria song, infact it was pretty much the only song I liked. It's kind of funny, I always go into the ESC thinking "god that icelandic song sucks" and then I hear the rest of the songs and go "we might have a shot!" About this whole booing thing: the strange implication that it actually matters is amusing. I bet my non-existent money on that girls did get the explanation what booing meant or understand it straight away (now that's something i dare to doubt) and the supposed target of booing does not really care for he knows the treatment. I agree, the government of Russia 100% doesn't care what an arena in Denmark does or does not do. That being said, it still shows support for Ukraine and might show Russians how some parts of EU feel about them as it stands, I feel those reasons are good enough to support the booing. it also gives the russian gouvernment the opportunity to act like they are the victim in the whole crysis. another point is that for me personally being originally from russia it scares me that russian citizens who absolutely have no impact on the political decisions their country make get hated only because they are from russia. this intolerantial behavior is what makes europe look like the win of this man is only a facade they can hide behind. I obviously don't think people should be disturbing normal Russian citizen, but when people are representing their country all bets are off. You get praises aswell as criticisms, and you just have to take it. Ofcourse it'd have been better if the representitive of Russia was older, but I assume being able to go on stage infront of 180M people, you can take a bit of booing. Intolerence behaviour against a nation invading another nation? Yes, well I think I'm going to have to disagree with you, being intolerant against that kind of behavior is quite positive.
Noone invaded anyone, its all western mass media propaganda man, that doesnt say anything about the history of the region and how complex the problem is. Let me tell you that if Russia wouldnt accept Creamea's request to join it. Then Creamea would be an independent state. No way it would be in Ukrain anymore no matter what, after what happend in Kiev. It would on its own or with Russia. So you can keep promoting your oversimplified stamp about invading... It much more complex than this.
Sorry for this offtopic, but its just astoning how mass consciousness is easy manipulated.
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