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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 11 2014 15:19 JieXian wrote: erm it's all in English and it sounds like generic so what's the point of this -.- I was expecting something with more "identity" since they are representing their countries. Austria sure showed its identity. Lol And I remember Poland just like that! | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On May 11 2014 15:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: They should remove jury. Its useless and dont say same as people vote. I totally agree with this. Guided democracy, eh? | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On May 11 2014 16:25 Xoronius wrote: So Poland got 10 points from Germany, but only 8 points from german viewers? What does that say about our jury? Well, according to the results, your jury had Poland as 4th and the televoting had Poland as 3rd, so that was quite on par. The combined output was that Poland got second spot in Germany. Unlike in Sweden, where the televoting put Poland in 3rd, the jury had Poland in 17th and therefore, the combined rank was a meager 9th place and 2 points. | ||
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Liman
Serbia681 Posts
On May 11 2014 16:17 Micro_Jackson wrote: Didn´t watch because i think its stupid but i like that it is just a huge bitchslap for russia and its homophobic. Dont you mean hetero phobic? lol On May 11 2014 09:18 Hyperionnn wrote: Looks like "Pussy Dick" won this bullshit, that's certainly appropriate for such a bullshit contest. Just goes to show you how much shock value is important in todays pop music.Music comes in second place. We already see the biggest pop stars like Beyonce and Rihanna making videos in thong. I guess next is real porn in daytime music videos. I dont mind naked ladies at all :D but this shit needs to stop before it completely ruins younger generations.At least some limits are needed. Eurovision = Gay pride not really a secret. | ||
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Pyloss
Germany1515 Posts
On May 11 2014 14:38 Bunn wrote: This year's Eurovision was quite good. Not many silly acts, and the singers were all relatively good. Russia getting booed at was great. Only one's I'm sorry for are the two girls, who probably were too brainwashed from living behind the propaganda curtain to even know what the booing was about. Exactly my thoughts. There were mutch more worse years, yesterdays show was actually quite entertaing. I really like the song from the Netherlands, well deserved second place. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27026 Posts
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JessicaSc2
Poland123 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On May 11 2014 18:41 JessicaSc2 wrote: Can someone explain to me this whole Wurst thing? As far as I know trans people want to look like opposite genders (meaning guys wants to look feminine and vice versa). I get that. So why the heck does she has a beard? Females don't have beards. I'm confused. It's just for show and shock value. Welcome to the Eurovision. | ||
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JessicaSc2
Poland123 Posts
On May 11 2014 18:43 Spaylz wrote: It's just for show and shock value. Welcome to the Eurovision. So it doesn't have anything to do with gay pride etc. and it's just plain and simple dumb huh? | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
To me, Eurovision is just a purposeful freak show, and a vast joke. I may be biased, but looking at that, I don't see any deeper meaning, I just see ridiculousness. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On May 11 2014 18:46 JessicaSc2 wrote: So it doesn't have anything to do with gay pride etc. and it's just plain and simple dumb huh? No, the character Conchita Wurst is created as a reaction and a statement against discrimination that he experienced as a homosexual as far as I understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Wurst http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Neuwirth | ||
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
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JessicaSc2
Poland123 Posts
On May 11 2014 19:21 BaneRiders wrote: No, the character Conchita Wurst is created as a reaction and a statement against discrimination that he experienced as a homosexual as far as I understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Wurst http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Neuwirth I still don't get the beard thing. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
Tolerance for everything that seems different combined with clever corporate branding? I don't know, but I'm sure that the beard is provocative and it seems to work like a well placed match in a fireworks factory when it comes to getting attention.  | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
He/she won 99% based on his looks and shock value instead of the song. Now that i look back I remember Isreal and Serbia wins and Ukraine 2nd place. If you send a gay/trasnvesite, lesbo or some freakshow you are guarantieed to get to top 3 no matter how terrible the song is. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Or Germany? | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On May 11 2014 20:22 SkelA wrote: Ask yourself if the song would win if it was performed by a normal girl instead of a gay/transvestite girlman with a tick beard ? He/she won 99% based on his looks and shock value instead of the song. Now that i look back I remember Isreal and Serbia wins and Ukraine 2nd place. If you send a gay/trasnvesite, lesbo or some freakshow you are guarantieed to get to top 3 no matter how terrible the song is. Nah, Denmark actually sent a drag queen back in 2007 who crashed and burned pretty horribly (got sent out in the semi-finals) - the song was pretty damn terrible though: EDIT: With that said: I do think Wurst won partly because of the 'brand'. The song was well performed, but it wasn't really all that outstanding. | ||
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hidetoaizen
Norway460 Posts
On May 11 2014 20:39 -Archangel- wrote: Then how did Russia win few years back? Or Germany? or most of the winners the past 58 years | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
There's no way in hell that a performer in such an outfit gets +10 points from so many nations, east european included (no offense but they tend to be a bit less liberal when it comes to the alternate sexualities) with a bad song. If you would just hear it on the radio is sounds just like a James Bond intro. There's no need to put a dick in there, but at least get your heads out of your asses. For myself the songs that came closest to something I would willingly listen to myself were from Finland and Armenia, but I was very pleasantly surprised by the outcome of the contest. I guess Europeans are more tolerant than I thought.  | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On May 11 2014 20:22 SkelA wrote: Ask yourself if the song would win if it was performed by a normal girl instead of a gay/transvestite girlman with a tick beard ? He/she won 99% based on his looks and shock value instead of the song. Now that i look back I remember Isreal and Serbia wins and Ukraine 2nd place. If you send a gay/trasnvesite, lesbo or some freakshow you are guarantieed to get to top 3 no matter how terrible the song is. That is not true. Homosexual/Bisexual/transvestite/It/whatever, is one thing to break you out of the crowd of prepackaged third rate pop you find at Eurovison. The finnish "hardrock halleluja" won by being so differrent from the rest that people voted it in (probably also because of the costumes and the spite of the culture around ESC certainly cannot be excluded). Alcohol is free from Greece 2012 got a lot of votes (It probably also factored in that Greece said they didn't want to hold it for economic reasons. That is just baiting for votes!), parodies of ESC usually do well (meta-meta culture). Any publicity is good publicity and since any respectable coverage crew will go for man bites dog, the outliers have a huge advantage. The best way to avoid having a winner is letting a pop-court or the fanatics of the kind of music you usually find in ESC choose. It gets too bland, unless you are Sweden ofc. | ||
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