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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 11 2014 17:23 GMT
#261
You are forgetting about epic sax guy...

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy1B3agGNxw


Oh wait - good songs.... Nevermind
hidetoaizen
Profile Joined January 2013
Norway460 Posts
May 11 2014 17:57 GMT
#262
this is my favorite song from the ESC
+ Show Spoiler +
Nal_rA | Stork | MKP | ㅇㅅㅌㅅ | Shine | do your best whatever whenever wherever ! - LiquidHerO | I don't know about any other day, but today I'm the champion of the world - SouL_Dear
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
May 11 2014 18:04 GMT
#263
Man I loved this prank.

Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
May 11 2014 18:20 GMT
#264
and here's my fav polish entry Eurovision 1994 - Edyta Górniak "To nie ja ", sounds a bit like a disney song
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
May 11 2014 20:00 GMT
#265
Went on a random listening spree this evening with a little help from RateYourMusic and YouTube.

Let me present: The Proper Eurovision - A Contest I'd Bother Watching

1. Armenia + Show Spoiler +
Djivan Gasparian & Ensemble - Kamantcha Blues (folk)

2. Austria + Show Spoiler +
Fennesz - A Year in A Minute (ambient, drone)

3. Azerbajian + Show Spoiler +
Aziza Mustafa Zadeh - Dance of Fire (jazz)

4. Belarus + Show Spoiler +
Rational Diet - Dear Kontrabandist (avant-prog)

5. Denmark + Show Spoiler +
Mew - Snow Brigade (indie pop)

6. Finland + Show Spoiler +
CMX - Nahkasiipi (indie rock)

7. France + Show Spoiler +
Natural Snow Buildings - Wisconsin (drone folk)

8. Germany + Show Spoiler +
Bohren & der Club of Gore - On Demon Wings (dark ambient, jazz)

9. Greece + Show Spoiler +
Subheim - Away (ambient, downtempo)

10. Hungary + Show Spoiler +
Thy Catafalque - Fekete Mezok (avant-garde metal)

11. Iceland + Show Spoiler +
Stafraenn Hákon - Járn (post-rock)

12. Italy + Show Spoiler +
Port-Royal - Spetznaz - Paul Leni (ambient, post-rock)

13. Malta + Show Spoiler +
Beangrowers - Not in a Million Lovers (indie rock)

14. Montenegro + Show Spoiler +
Janko Nilovic - Soul Impressions (jazz-funk)

15. Netherlands + Show Spoiler +
35007 - Tsunami (space rock, stoner rock)

16. Norway + Show Spoiler +
Ulver - The Future Sound of Music (trip-hop, ambient)

17. Poland + Show Spoiler +
Pogodno - Ekwador (indie rock)

18. Romania + Show Spoiler +
Negura Bunget - Curgerea Muntelui (black metal)

19. Russian Federation + Show Spoiler +
Auktyon - Ptiza (folk rock)

20. Slovenia + Show Spoiler +
Dirtmusic - Desert Wind (folk rock)

21. Spain + Show Spoiler +
12twelve - Mr Gesus (free jazz)

22. Sweden + Show Spoiler +
Carbon Based Lifeforms - Photosynthesis (psybient)

23. Switzerland + Show Spoiler +
Shora - Siphroidias (post-rock, space rock)

24. Ukraine + Show Spoiler +
First Human Ferro - Hollow Shells And Light (dark ambient)

25. United Kingdom + Show Spoiler +
Jesu - Wolves (shoegaze)


PS. Go home San Marino, you're too small.
hidetoaizen
Profile Joined January 2013
Norway460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 20:30:22
May 11 2014 20:29 GMT
#266
a lot of good music in this list. :D

ps: props for using Ulver as the Norwegian ''contestant'' :D
Nal_rA | Stork | MKP | ㅇㅅㅌㅅ | Shine | do your best whatever whenever wherever ! - LiquidHerO | I don't know about any other day, but today I'm the champion of the world - SouL_Dear
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
May 11 2014 20:37 GMT
#267
On May 12 2014 05:00 wingpawn wrote:
Went on a random listening spree this evening with a little help from RateYourMusic and YouTube.

Let me present: The Proper Eurovision - A Contest I'd Bother Watching

1. Armenia + Show Spoiler +
Djivan Gasparian & Ensemble - Kamantcha Blues (folk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kEqeBUCHuU

2. Austria + Show Spoiler +
Fennesz - A Year in A Minute (ambient, drone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIfgITYzuY

3. Azerbajian + Show Spoiler +
Aziza Mustafa Zadeh - Dance of Fire (jazz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4bg-mvJA4k

4. Belarus + Show Spoiler +
Rational Diet - Dear Kontrabandist (avant-prog)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXL5T3WHCpE

5. Denmark + Show Spoiler +
Mew - Snow Brigade (indie pop)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIIMmUTfAo4

6. Finland + Show Spoiler +
CMX - Nahkasiipi (indie rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9WjvgPE3w

7. France + Show Spoiler +
Natural Snow Buildings - Wisconsin (drone folk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8m9IvRaQ9E

8. Germany + Show Spoiler +
Bohren & der Club of Gore - On Demon Wings (dark ambient, jazz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aue3NrdtzN0

9. Greece + Show Spoiler +
Subheim - Away (ambient, downtempo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMHHBIr9ptQ

10. Hungary + Show Spoiler +
Thy Catafalque - Fekete Mezok (avant-garde metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ3K4NvIrYs

11. Iceland + Show Spoiler +
Stafraenn Hákon - Járn (post-rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eXJO5_qDfc

12. Italy + Show Spoiler +
Port-Royal - Spetznaz - Paul Leni (ambient, post-rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvlgbBLZho

13. Malta + Show Spoiler +
Beangrowers - Not in a Million Lovers (indie rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWO_pIcc9Gg

14. Montenegro + Show Spoiler +
Janko Nilovic - Soul Impressions (jazz-funk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgD5AZKMxYk

15. Netherlands + Show Spoiler +
35007 - Tsunami (space rock, stoner rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOnM4C4VTY0

16. Norway + Show Spoiler +
Ulver - The Future Sound of Music (trip-hop, ambient)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tJNWFdfuko

17. Poland + Show Spoiler +
Pogodno - Ekwador (indie rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8LHkZ26Fc

18. Romania + Show Spoiler +
Negura Bunget - Curgerea Muntelui (black metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k24cjtwmn1Q

19. Russian Federation + Show Spoiler +
Auktyon - Ptiza (folk rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydm6-KuLkIA

20. Slovenia + Show Spoiler +
Dirtmusic - Desert Wind (folk rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2isnxadqeiY

21. Spain + Show Spoiler +
12twelve - Mr Gesus (free jazz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtE0WZ52ZVE

22. Sweden + Show Spoiler +
Carbon Based Lifeforms - Photosynthesis (psybient)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8G0zHMuwg

23. Switzerland + Show Spoiler +
Shora - Siphroidias (post-rock, space rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEb6Yz_r-CU

24. Ukraine + Show Spoiler +
First Human Ferro - Hollow Shells And Light (dark ambient)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62uHP_E8FIY

25. United Kingdom + Show Spoiler +
Jesu - Wolves (shoegaze)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfytPS6j4Cw


PS. Go home San Marino, you're too small.


i'm not fan of indie/ambient/any avant-garde. I enjoyed the jazzy tunes though.
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 21:11:19
May 11 2014 21:09 GMT
#268
On May 12 2014 05:00 wingpawn wrote:
Went on a random listening spree this evening with a little help from RateYourMusic and YouTube.

Let me present: The Proper Eurovision - A Contest I'd Bother Watching

1. Armenia + Show Spoiler +
Djivan Gasparian & Ensemble - Kamantcha Blues (folk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kEqeBUCHuU

2. Austria + Show Spoiler +
Fennesz - A Year in A Minute (ambient, drone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIfgITYzuY

3. Azerbajian + Show Spoiler +
Aziza Mustafa Zadeh - Dance of Fire (jazz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4bg-mvJA4k

4. Belarus + Show Spoiler +
Rational Diet - Dear Kontrabandist (avant-prog)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXL5T3WHCpE

5. Denmark + Show Spoiler +
Mew - Snow Brigade (indie pop)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIIMmUTfAo4

6. Finland + Show Spoiler +
CMX - Nahkasiipi (indie rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9WjvgPE3w

7. France + Show Spoiler +
Natural Snow Buildings - Wisconsin (drone folk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8m9IvRaQ9E

8. Germany + Show Spoiler +
Bohren & der Club of Gore - On Demon Wings (dark ambient, jazz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aue3NrdtzN0

9. Greece + Show Spoiler +
Subheim - Away (ambient, downtempo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMHHBIr9ptQ

10. Hungary + Show Spoiler +
Thy Catafalque - Fekete Mezok (avant-garde metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ3K4NvIrYs

11. Iceland + Show Spoiler +
Stafraenn Hákon - Járn (post-rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eXJO5_qDfc

12. Italy + Show Spoiler +
Port-Royal - Spetznaz - Paul Leni (ambient, post-rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvlgbBLZho

13. Malta + Show Spoiler +
Beangrowers - Not in a Million Lovers (indie rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWO_pIcc9Gg

14. Montenegro + Show Spoiler +
Janko Nilovic - Soul Impressions (jazz-funk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgD5AZKMxYk

15. Netherlands + Show Spoiler +
35007 - Tsunami (space rock, stoner rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOnM4C4VTY0

16. Norway + Show Spoiler +
Ulver - The Future Sound of Music (trip-hop, ambient)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tJNWFdfuko

17. Poland + Show Spoiler +
Pogodno - Ekwador (indie rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8LHkZ26Fc

18. Romania + Show Spoiler +
Negura Bunget - Curgerea Muntelui (black metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k24cjtwmn1Q

19. Russian Federation + Show Spoiler +
Auktyon - Ptiza (folk rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydm6-KuLkIA

20. Slovenia + Show Spoiler +
Dirtmusic - Desert Wind (folk rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2isnxadqeiY

21. Spain + Show Spoiler +
12twelve - Mr Gesus (free jazz)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtE0WZ52ZVE

22. Sweden + Show Spoiler +
Carbon Based Lifeforms - Photosynthesis (psybient)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8G0zHMuwg

23. Switzerland + Show Spoiler +
Shora - Siphroidias (post-rock, space rock)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEb6Yz_r-CU

24. Ukraine + Show Spoiler +
First Human Ferro - Hollow Shells And Light (dark ambient)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62uHP_E8FIY

25. United Kingdom + Show Spoiler +
Jesu - Wolves (shoegaze)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfytPS6j4Cw


PS. Go home San Marino, you're too small.


The entry you choose for The Netherlands would certainly raise some eyebrows :p

EDIT: wait it's actually a song!? Still, 9+ minutes and no singing; would never happen.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 21:19:02
May 11 2014 21:17 GMT
#269
Armenia best song, worst singer unfortunately. It became the favourite based on studio version, but was quite a lot worse live- 4th place seems fair I guess. Sweden IMO best live performance followed by Russia.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 21:42:11
May 11 2014 21:39 GMT
#270
I didnt watch the show but I was quite suprised to see Austria win. It's like a joke that you can only hear once and then you dont care about it anymore. And i've seen that act before so its kinda meh..

I thought Ukraine would win easily for political reasons. But russia had quite a lot of points too..
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 21:47:14
May 11 2014 21:45 GMT
#271
UK audience voted Polish entry in FIRST place. The UK jury placed them LAST.
Literally. Exactly the same voting pattern in Ireland. Public voted Polish entry into first place, but their jury panel put them last. And a whole bunch of other countries too, even 'liberal/feminist' ones, albeit the contrast was a bit less extreme. See more here (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/eurovision-2014-voting-controversy-after-uk-jury-revealed-to-place-conchita-first--but-british-public-voted-for-donatan--cleo-9351644.html). From the article:

"A Eurovision spokesman denied this was evidence of a cultural disconnection between the popular winner and that favoured by the official judges "

Seems like some countries get screwed by the jury compared to the popular vote. I checked the last couple years for Russia.
In 2014, tele-vote: 6th, jury: 13th.
In 2013, tele-vote: 5th, jury: 10th.
In 2012, tele-vote: 2nd (just a few points behind the winner), jury: 11th.

Eurovision is a people's contest. And it was that way up until just a few years ago when they changed the rules to include the jury.

F#CK THE JURY.

P.S. Shouldn't this be under Media and Entertainment?
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
May 11 2014 21:53 GMT
#272
On May 12 2014 06:45 Xiphos wrote:
UK audience voted Polish entry in FIRST place. The UK jury placed them LAST.
Literally. Exactly the same voting pattern in Ireland. Public voted Polish entry into first place, but their jury panel put them last. And a whole bunch of other countries too, even 'liberal/feminist' ones, albeit the contrast was a bit less extreme. See more here (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/eurovision-2014-voting-controversy-after-uk-jury-revealed-to-place-conchita-first--but-british-public-voted-for-donatan--cleo-9351644.html). From the article:

"A Eurovision spokesman denied this was evidence of a cultural disconnection between the popular winner and that favoured by the official judges "

Seems like some countries get screwed by the jury compared to the popular vote. I checked the last couple years for Russia.
In 2014, tele-vote: 6th, jury: 13th.
In 2013, tele-vote: 5th, jury: 10th.
In 2012, tele-vote: 2nd (just a few points behind the winner), jury: 11th.

Eurovision is a people's contest. And it was that way up until just a few years ago when they changed the rules to include the jury.

F#CK THE JURY.

P.S. Shouldn't this be under Media and Entertainment?


Never understood why they had jury's before. Now I do, thank you.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
May 11 2014 22:17 GMT
#273
On May 12 2014 06:45 Xiphos wrote:
UK audience voted Polish entry in FIRST place. The UK jury placed them LAST.
Literally. Exactly the same voting pattern in Ireland. Public voted Polish entry into first place, but their jury panel put them last. And a whole bunch of other countries too, even 'liberal/feminist' ones, albeit the contrast was a bit less extreme. See more here (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/eurovision-2014-voting-controversy-after-uk-jury-revealed-to-place-conchita-first--but-british-public-voted-for-donatan--cleo-9351644.html). From the article:

"A Eurovision spokesman denied this was evidence of a cultural disconnection between the popular winner and that favoured by the official judges "

Seems like some countries get screwed by the jury compared to the popular vote. I checked the last couple years for Russia.
In 2014, tele-vote: 6th, jury: 13th.
In 2013, tele-vote: 5th, jury: 10th.
In 2012, tele-vote: 2nd (just a few points behind the winner), jury: 11th.

Eurovision is a people's contest. And it was that way up until just a few years ago when they changed the rules to include the jury.

F#CK THE JURY.

P.S. Shouldn't this be under Media and Entertainment?


So the 'butter and tits' combo worked? xD
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
May 11 2014 22:29 GMT
#274
They added juries, because they were tired of certain countries just sharing points with only their neighbors... This still happens, but to a much lesser extent then before, as most juries are actually less biased towards their friendly neighborhood countries.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 11 2014 22:57 GMT
#275
I'm proud of France's results.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
May 11 2014 23:08 GMT
#276
Russia got absolutely shafted this year. Usually they get far more votes from the rest of USSR... If you had only popular votes, it would be a tragedy. The regional-cultural-political voting is already ridiculous.
If you just let it be popular voting 2 things will happen:
1. Groups of people will create networks and push a "vote for x" because of reasons completely devoid of a musical dimension (It was interesting in Denmark when Dancing with the Stars had Allan Simonsen and a shits and giggles campaign of voting him to the final. It made the program change rules because he was so terrible and the campaign completely screwed the concept of voting for the best dancer.).
2. Things will get filled with even more sexual innuation and other not suitable for kids gimmickry to catch more votes. It is bad today, but you ain't seen nothing yet!
Repeat before me
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 23:40:16
May 11 2014 23:39 GMT
#277
On May 12 2014 06:45 Xiphos wrote:
UK audience voted Polish entry in FIRST place. The UK jury placed them LAST.
Literally. Exactly the same voting pattern in Ireland. Public voted Polish entry into first place, but their jury panel put them last. And a whole bunch of other countries too, even 'liberal/feminist' ones, albeit the contrast was a bit less extreme. See more here (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/eurovision-2014-voting-controversy-after-uk-jury-revealed-to-place-conchita-first--but-british-public-voted-for-donatan--cleo-9351644.html). From the article:

"A Eurovision spokesman denied this was evidence of a cultural disconnection between the popular winner and that favoured by the official judges "

Seems like some countries get screwed by the jury compared to the popular vote. I checked the last couple years for Russia.
In 2014, tele-vote: 6th, jury: 13th.
In 2013, tele-vote: 5th, jury: 10th.
In 2012, tele-vote: 2nd (just a few points behind the winner), jury: 11th.

Eurovision is a people's contest. And it was that way up until just a few years ago when they changed the rules to include the jury.

F#CK THE JURY.

P.S. Shouldn't this be under Media and Entertainment?
You mean it was a jury's contest. Until 1997 everything was decided by jury. Fuck the people, they vote boobs.
L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
May 11 2014 23:53 GMT
#278
On May 12 2014 00:02 Appendix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2014 21:41 L1ghtning wrote:
On May 11 2014 09:17 karfussen wrote:
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=GB

Here you can check detailed results. Look for example at United Kingdom, Norway, Netherlands or Austria - viewers liked Polish tits but jury hated them

How the results would look if only televoting votes were counted: here

Poland 5th place by voting. What's wrong with ppl? It was surely the worst song in the finals. Yeah, I get it if you appreciated their "show" for obvious reasons, but why waste your money on voting on that musical torture?

I'm generally a bit sceptical towards having a jury, mainly because it only consists of 5 ppl, but as long as they do a better job than the televoters, they deserve to stay. Hungary only got 10th place by televotes, and they had the song with probably the best musical arrangements. Thankfully the jury was knowledgeable enough about music to elevate it up to 5th place total. That's why the jury is a good thing. If quality doesn't get recognized, and songs like Poland's song gets recognition instead of Hungary's song, then more and more serious songwriters will just opt out, which will make the competition into more of a farce than it already is.


I find the notion that there should be a jury in case of people voting wrong to be silly. Let the most popular song win and don't go by some arbitrary measure like technique. Eurovision has always been as much about the show as the actual singing, and as long as it has the big audience it has serious songwriters won't opt out because some sense of pride.

I don't think the jury ranks the songs arbitrarily. The main difference is that they invest much more into the songs than the average voter does, plus, all of them are involved in the music industry, so they have more refined tastes on average, which generally means they are more open-minded to styles that may not be that mainstream. The jury's voting is how the general public would vote, if they devoted as much time to the songs, and were as knowledgeable about music as the jury is. Well, that's what the jury strives for, and obviously that's not always what you get, but since they incorporated the jury I have always agreed a bit more with the jury than with the televoters, despite its flaws.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 01:37:56
May 12 2014 01:18 GMT
#279
On May 12 2014 08:08 radiatoren wrote:
Russia got absolutely shafted this year. Usually they get far more votes from the rest of USSR... If you had only popular votes, it would be a tragedy. The regional-cultural-political voting is already ridiculous.
If you just let it be popular voting 2 things will happen:
1. Groups of people will create networks and push a "vote for x" because of reasons completely devoid of a musical dimension (It was interesting in Denmark when Dancing with the Stars had Allan Simonsen and a shits and giggles campaign of voting him to the final. It made the program change rules because he was so terrible and the campaign completely screwed the concept of voting for the best dancer.).
2. Things will get filled with even more sexual innuation and other not suitable for kids gimmickry to catch more votes. It is bad today, but you ain't seen nothing yet!


Imo, our girls got enough. I wasn't cheering hard for them but *what place was it actually* this 5-7 place is ok, i was expecting us to get 20+th because of politics ez.
Well, they have already won, when they were childs, so i guess, they weren't sad :D Except for being boo'ed after singing and every point given. Danes are boring, stay classy if you can't approve other points of view.

Hungary imo deserved way more, as well as Suisse and Slovenia.
I was a bit surprised by Netherlands in top-2 even after checking bookmaker's ratings but Austria on 1st place, ohwell.
But in general, it was very high-level competition this time, not like usually with 1-2 good songs and 24 boring, i was pleasantly surprised. And also, this time there weren't many pauses, so everything was smooth, thank God.

And well, popular voting is good because people choose by themselves.
Might be good, if jury can choose one set of points and people can vote for other, might solve the problem.

On May 11 2014 08:22 Yttrasil wrote:
I'm curious, and this might be the correct place to ask. What is the name of the "host" for the Russian votes? She is a beauty!


I'm not sure if you check it, but it's Alsou. And she was actually at Eurovision as well, in 2000.

On May 11 2014 20:39 -Archangel- wrote:
Then how did Russia win few years back?
Or Germany?


Well, Bilan had to win in 2006 already, but back in the days, people prefered Lordi holy shit.
And in 2008 there were Edwin Marton and Plyushenko, and he hadn't sung bad as well.

Germany, haha. Lena was op but Armenia was just robbed in 2010. It was probably contest with my favourite song from Russia.
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All the Russians I know are very nationalistic and proud of their country.
However, all of them also don't like how current things are now and want communism back.
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