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Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
September 27 2013 08:05 GMT
#81


Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. and its affiliated companies is an equal opportunity and affirmative action employer.


This cracks me up, maybe they should read up on the definitions of the two.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
September 27 2013 10:09 GMT
#82
On September 27 2013 00:02 devilesk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 23:28 Spaylz wrote:
On September 26 2013 23:19 devilesk wrote:
On September 26 2013 22:46 Spaylz wrote:

Edit : In fact, in order to see exactly how hard it will be to beat LoL, just look at Dota 2. They had Valve, the original trademark of the game, the well-known game maker IceFrog and the insanely popular Steam platform. LoL still blew it out of the water. So, yeah.


LoL had a four year head start since it was released in '09 and Dota 2 was released just this summer. LoL had already been released for two years before Dota 2 was even unveiled at the first International. Original trademark, IceFrog, and Steam don't mean anything when the game isn't public. Despite that, I think Dota 2 has been doing very well since it's release. It's on the rise and will be a strong competitor to LoL.


Dota 2 was released this summer, yes, but it had been in beta for like a whole year. Everyone and their mother had a chance to play Dota 2 before it officially came out, and TI was already happening in beta. On a factual standpoint, Dota 2 was released over a year ago.

Your point still stands, LoL had a head start, but even so I don't see Dota 2 catching up to LoL. The game is just way, way ahead. Dota 2 is doing very well though, usually about ~500k players online during peaks, and always at least 120-150k, which is pretty much the peak for HoN (the third competitor). I expect the player base to keep growing, but I doubt it will ever go above 10-15 millions, which is still only half of LoL (as of now, it's 6 millions player per month, 500k online at peaks against 30 million and at least 2 million players at peaks).

It's not really about Dota 2 being bad, it's just that 30 million players is a HUGE number.


I don't think Dota 2 will catch up in terms of players. But whatever the strengths of Dota 2 are, Blizzard will have a hard time matching it, just as it will have a hard time LoL's sheer numbers.

Blizzard is like the Windows phone trying to compete with Apple and Android.


Blizzard is like the Windows phone trying to compete with Apple and Android.[/QUOTE]

Wait a few years and you will be suprised by both blizzard and the windows phone:p
Nice comparison though, you could be right but i have faith in blizzard and microsoft.
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
September 27 2013 16:54 GMT
#83
if its not free to play then its gonna bomb
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
September 27 2013 17:01 GMT
#84
Blizzard All-Stars will instantly take up 80% of moba market.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
September 27 2013 17:14 GMT
#85
bullshit. we've all seen what blizzard do with balance and esports. lol is king in Asia. they might take over dota2 in the west if its ftp, balanced, and they support esports
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 27 2013 17:15 GMT
#86
Blizzard is always hiring. They have a career page, it's pretty big.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
September 27 2013 17:31 GMT
#87
On September 26 2013 12:57 Talack wrote:
Why are they wasting money on this....

LoL and DOTA2 are already well established and have ENORMOUS market shares. This is a waste of time on a project that's going to die off extremely quickly if it ever gets going at all.

everquest had a pretty big market share when they released WoW
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
September 27 2013 17:38 GMT
#88
On September 28 2013 02:31 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 12:57 Talack wrote:
Why are they wasting money on this....

LoL and DOTA2 are already well established and have ENORMOUS market shares. This is a waste of time on a project that's going to die off extremely quickly if it ever gets going at all.

everquest had a pretty big market share when they released WoW


EQ was dying when WoW was released.

Most people left at the 2001-2002 era (post-luclin)
Dead game.
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
September 27 2013 17:44 GMT
#89
On September 26 2013 20:54 dartoo wrote:
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On September 26 2013 19:30 NicksonReyes wrote:
Watch them make a better MOBA than LoL/Dota 2 and suck at the ESPORTS part.



I'm pretty sure this isnt going to be about e-sports at all, they are going for the casual audience, much like s2's new game.


Here's the video I was talking about earlier, probably a lot has changed,but anyway:




If that happens call me in:D
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:56:03
September 27 2013 17:54 GMT
#90
On September 28 2013 02:38 Patate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:31 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
On September 26 2013 12:57 Talack wrote:
Why are they wasting money on this....

LoL and DOTA2 are already well established and have ENORMOUS market shares. This is a waste of time on a project that's going to die off extremely quickly if it ever gets going at all.

everquest had a pretty big market share when they released WoW


EQ was dying when WoW was released.

Most people left at the 2001-2002 era (post-luclin)

i meant EQ 2, but i guess they released not long before wow anyways

my point is that someone always has a major market share before someone else takes it
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
September 27 2013 18:25 GMT
#91
Blizzard can make this happen, the ideas from he fairly old vid are great and actually take away all the "unfunny" stuff from the Dota gameplay (lasthitting, 1000+ items, lame early game etc...)
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
September 27 2013 19:06 GMT
#92
On September 26 2013 20:54 dartoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 19:30 NicksonReyes wrote:
Watch them make a better MOBA than LoL/Dota 2 and suck at the ESPORTS part.



I'm pretty sure this isnt going to be about e-sports at all, they are going for the casual audience, much like s2's new game.


I highly doubt they are not going to push hard into the e-sports scene with this game since they totally scrapped titan because blizzard didn't want to put out anything that couldn't nurture an e-sports environment.
Arrinao
Profile Joined September 2013
21 Posts
September 27 2013 19:22 GMT
#93
I'm pretty sure this isnt going to be about e-sports at all, they are going for the casual audience, much like s2's new game.

Which is why they are hiring an eSports director for Blizzard All-stars. Get out of town man :D
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
September 27 2013 19:23 GMT
#94
On September 28 2013 04:06 serum321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 20:54 dartoo wrote:
On September 26 2013 19:30 NicksonReyes wrote:
Watch them make a better MOBA than LoL/Dota 2 and suck at the ESPORTS part.



I'm pretty sure this isnt going to be about e-sports at all, they are going for the casual audience, much like s2's new game.


I highly doubt they are not going to push hard into the e-sports scene with this game since they totally scrapped titan because blizzard didn't want to put out anything that couldn't nurture an e-sports environment.

That's not the reason.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 27 2013 19:26 GMT
#95
As a Dota player, I'd like to write this off as a failure before it starts, but I was ready to do that with Hearthstone as well, and look at me now.

If it's F2P I'll definitely give it a try, it is a Blizzard game after all. It would really need to be spectacular to get me away from Dota though.
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
September 27 2013 21:46 GMT
#96
On September 28 2013 04:23 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 04:06 serum321 wrote:
On September 26 2013 20:54 dartoo wrote:
On September 26 2013 19:30 NicksonReyes wrote:
Watch them make a better MOBA than LoL/Dota 2 and suck at the ESPORTS part.



I'm pretty sure this isnt going to be about e-sports at all, they are going for the casual audience, much like s2's new game.


I highly doubt they are not going to push hard into the e-sports scene with this game since they totally scrapped titan because blizzard didn't want to put out anything that couldn't nurture an e-sports environment.

That's not the reason.

Hmmm...perhaps not, that is one of the rumors though and it makes sense, but since you seem to know exactly why, care to enlighten us all?
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 22:01:56
September 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#97
On September 28 2013 06:46 serum321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 04:23 gruff wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:06 serum321 wrote:
On September 26 2013 20:54 dartoo wrote:
On September 26 2013 19:30 NicksonReyes wrote:
Watch them make a better MOBA than LoL/Dota 2 and suck at the ESPORTS part.



I'm pretty sure this isnt going to be about e-sports at all, they are going for the casual audience, much like s2's new game.


I highly doubt they are not going to push hard into the e-sports scene with this game since they totally scrapped titan because blizzard didn't want to put out anything that couldn't nurture an e-sports environment.

That's not the reason.

Hmmm...perhaps not, that is one of the rumors though and it makes sense, but since you seem to know exactly why, care to enlighten us all?


why would blizzard -only- want to make "esports" games? how does it make sense at all? please explain, you seem to know.
Titan was most likely delayed becuase they'd been working on it for years and decided the technology they were building it on was out of date, they've said a bunch of times the game still exists and people are still working on it- many just got moved to other projects/teams while they refocus it.
Source


According to interviews with mike morhaime they really wanna push esports with Blizzard all-stars, they've also confirmed dozens of times that it'll be f2p.
Q: E-sports have become incredibly popular and Starcraft has become immense, particularly in South Korea. Do you see Blizzard doing more in e-sports with other titles?

Mike Morhaime: It depends on the title. When it comes to e-sports Starcraft is in a category of its own. The game is so fun to watch, it's so well balanced and the strategies are so deep. There are other opportunities - we're working on Blizzard All-Stars which has the potential to be a fun spectator sport and fun to play. We're ready to support it as an e-sport.

Source
/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Arrinao
Profile Joined September 2013
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 22:51:41
September 27 2013 22:50 GMT
#98
As a Dota player, I'd like to write this off as a failure before it starts, but I was ready to do that with Hearthstone as well, and look at me now.

While that Hearthstone argument seems solid, you need to take into consideration, that all the current Blizzard games, to which Hearthstone is no exception, were operating in market positions with basically 0 competition (at their level) at all. No one else makes AAA, franchise backed RTS anymore as well as no one makes franchise backed AAA ARPG's and TCG's. The actual real quality of these games had thus been somewhat obscured because of the lack of real substitues to compare with.
This won't be the case of Blizzard All-stars as it will enter a market that is dominated by competition.

Plus Hearthstone was a project that was basically a culmination of thoroughly spontaneous ideas and a whole new dedicated team was put together for it. "Look we have these brilliant ideas let's put them together and release it". All-stars is different, it's kinda forced project ("Look there's those MOBA's which are insanely popular, let's make one ourselves") that doesn't really allow people to be spontaneous in their own ways. I compose music and people tell me it's really good and one time a friend asks me to compose a metal song, which eventually turned out pretty bad, even though I like metal. I was just forced into making something i could and at the same time couldn't make the way I wanted it.
Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
September 27 2013 23:05 GMT
#99
On September 26 2013 13:00 Mentalizor wrote:
Considering Blizzard All-starts was announced in 2010 (right?) as what seemed to just be pretty much a UMS in SC2, I thought they had dropped the idea. Because with primarely LoL and Dota - but still also HoN - this market seems to be a hard one to crack.

I play Dota2, and ofc I'll give All-stars a shot... But I can't see them cracking the market here


Maybe it was intended to be a little UMS in the beginning. I think they are going to make it a 'thing' now, they probably looked at the TI3 compendium literally printing money and came in their collective pants.
Nanikure
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
September 27 2013 23:39 GMT
#100
On September 26 2013 16:23 papaz wrote:
Blizzard is going to crush LoL and Dota2 (ok maybe not Dota2 client).

Come on guys, who can resist characters like Kerrigan, Thrall, Tyrael, Zeratul, Nova, Lich King, Sylvanas, Illidan and much more!!


I can resist them very easily because apparently unlike you I actually care about decent gameplay and not just fan-service.
"I hate everyone and everything seems stupid to me."
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