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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 12:30:15
September 26 2013 12:30 GMT
#61
if Hearthstone has taught us anything, Blizzard hype has gone absolutely nowhere, and people will still lose their shit for their generic games
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
September 26 2013 12:30 GMT
#62
I think if they fire david kim and replace him with a more sensible person, the sc2 scene will see an upswing in users.

too little too late. people are moving to other games fast.. its just getting too much to keep up with this game sometimes. fun for a casual game or 2 no doubt.

playing captains draft dota 2 atm xD
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 12:32:57
September 26 2013 12:32 GMT
#63
On September 26 2013 21:30 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:
I think if they fire david kim and replace him with a more sensible person, the sc2 scene will see an upswing in users.

too little too late. people are moving to other games fast.. its just getting too much to keep up with this game sometimes. fun for a casual game or 2 no doubt.

playing captains draft dota 2 atm xD

thx nice to know xD
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well im excited for the new blizzdota, since its free2play why not try it
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 12:33:52
September 26 2013 12:33 GMT
#64
On September 26 2013 14:06 robopork wrote:
I laughed when I heard about Hearthstone and wrote it off as something to fill space between major releases. And it might have been, that's all starcraft was when it started. Nonetheless it's becoming big in its genre..


Yep I agree with this sentiment. I mocked hearthstone quite a bit when I first heard about their big reveal being a 'card game', but it's turned out to be awesome and one of the most highly sought after beta tests ever.

I have big hopes for All Stars.
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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 12:35:06
September 26 2013 12:34 GMT
#65
The last blizzard game that hasn't been a disappointment for me is from 2007(TBC). I don't think this will be any different. The company which made epic games doesn't exist anymore...
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 26 2013 12:42 GMT
#66
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 12:46:16
September 26 2013 12:45 GMT
#67
I'm not sure what segment of the gaming population Blizz tries to capture with All-Stars.

People that somehow wouldn't play LoL or Dota, but that do get excited for All-Stars? I don't think there are any of those.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 13:48:58
September 26 2013 13:46 GMT
#68
On September 26 2013 21:23 Rassy wrote:
Think it will be a huge succes, and eventually surpase both lol and dota.
Blizzard is late to the party but that also gives them an advantage, they can build up a new game from the ground with all the latest technologys and learn from the faults in dota and lol, once it has come out it should be ahead of both lol and dota.
Not only is blizzard the best, they are also the biggest. They have more monney for the development and they have a huge fanbase of players wich will try out the game no matter which other similar games are out.
Agree though that d3 was not their best.


I'm sorry, that's just not true anymore. Blizzard isn't what it used to be, every player who was around ten years ago will tell you that. The fact is, they don't learn from their mistakes. Every new game is all about involving the community and facilitating interaction between players (Valve has Steam, pretty self-explanatory, the interface of HoN was strongly reminiscent of the old BNet, I haven't played LoL but I'm sure it's decent) while Blizzard effectively killed the social aspect of SC2 when they came up with BNet 2.0. Even in e-sport... While they originally stepped up their game and poured a lot of money into it and created a great environment, they are starting to make bad decisions. They want to monopolize the e-sport market and be responsible for every SC2 tournament out there, which will cause other gaming organizations to steer away from SC2 and slowly choke the scene and the game.

If you truly think All-Stars will beat LoL, I'm afraid you might be a little deluded. LoL has what, 30 million players? And I don't think the numbers are even starting to dwindle, quite the opposite in fact. Every stream keeps gathering more and more viewers (around 400k+ viewers for the Riot Stream nowadays) and SC2 doesn't come close to that at all. To me, it's pretty clear that LoL is here to stay. It will take something completely amazing to dethrone it.

About the little off-topic here: I am hyped for Hearthstone though, it looks pretty cool. But I'm afraid I will be disappointed soon enough, once again. At this point, I'm desperately looking for a new video game company that will make me dream the way Blizzard did ten years ago. Not going well so far.

Edit : In fact, in order to see exactly how hard it will be to beat LoL, just look at Dota 2. They had Valve, the original trademark of the game, the well-known game maker IceFrog and the insanely popular Steam platform. LoL still blew it out of the water. So, yeah.
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
September 26 2013 14:11 GMT
#69
On September 26 2013 19:22 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 19:13 B.I.G. wrote:
How awesome would it be if you could play as diablo in blizzard dota


Which one? The teenage boy one? The "I drink 5 protein shakes a day" one? or the "mom I just discovered who I am" or otherwise known as "transvestite" one?

I still shiver at the thought of sheablo. I still can't imagine what kind of evil drug they must have been amoking to come up with this disgustingly disturbing freak. I also agree that they ruined a lot id their best characters. Fortunately I never played wow so I won't have any memories of violation when playing dudes like illidan.

Apart from that there are still chars that found safety in death such as fenix.
Gulf
Profile Joined May 2010
Scotland213 Posts
September 26 2013 14:11 GMT
#70
On September 26 2013 17:23 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 16:23 papaz wrote:
Blizzard is going to crush LoL and Dota2 (ok maybe not Dota2 client).

Come on guys, who can resist characters like Kerrigan, Thrall, Tyrael, Zeratul, Nova, Lich King, Sylvanas, Illidan and much more!!

I couldn't resist each of them individually, but as an ensemble I can very well.


Exactly, putting all the big name characters from all the franchises would be weird, and they wouldn't really even BE those characters, they wouldn't act like them, or have their motivations, they would be your little puppets that you can make team up in ways they never would, characters are defined by their actions and personalities, not just what they look like and how powerful they are.

Also the heroes will all be of approximately the same power level give or take for carries etc being stronger in late game which wouldn't make sense given how different they should be if they were in fact those characters. Just wait till you see decard cain kill illidan...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2013 14:17 GMT
#71
On September 26 2013 23:11 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 19:22 Latham wrote:
On September 26 2013 19:13 B.I.G. wrote:
How awesome would it be if you could play as diablo in blizzard dota


Which one? The teenage boy one? The "I drink 5 protein shakes a day" one? or the "mom I just discovered who I am" or otherwise known as "transvestite" one?

I still shiver at the thought of sheablo. I still can't imagine what kind of evil drug they must have been amoking to come up with this disgustingly disturbing freak. I also agree that they ruined a lot id their best characters. Fortunately I never played wow so I won't have any memories of violation when playing dudes like illidan.

Apart from that there are still chars that found safety in death such as fenix.

Several skin Diablo, all with the same voice, just for amusement factor.

I want some Lost Vikings in this game. The guy with the shield specifically.
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Bluejava
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden135 Posts
September 26 2013 14:19 GMT
#72
I promise you that blizzard gonna hype this game up as hell att blizzcon: )
"I've learned one thing for sure: Life is random and chaotic. Trying to put things into a pattern will only temporarily solve the problem. Once you embrace the madness, it will stop feeling overwhelming."
devilesk
Profile Joined May 2005
United States140 Posts
September 26 2013 14:19 GMT
#73
On September 26 2013 22:46 Spaylz wrote:

Edit : In fact, in order to see exactly how hard it will be to beat LoL, just look at Dota 2. They had Valve, the original trademark of the game, the well-known game maker IceFrog and the insanely popular Steam platform. LoL still blew it out of the water. So, yeah.


LoL had a four year head start since it was released in '09 and Dota 2 was released just this summer. LoL had already been released for two years before Dota 2 was even unveiled at the first International. Original trademark, IceFrog, and Steam don't mean anything when the game isn't public. Despite that, I think Dota 2 has been doing very well since it's release. It's on the rise and will be a strong competitor to LoL.
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Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 14:24:54
September 26 2013 14:23 GMT
#74
On September 26 2013 13:10 FinestHour wrote:
the thing is everyone thought hearthstone was going to be a big joke
now people say its as good as magic the gathering

who can really tell with blizzardo their only enemy to their products is themselves


The WoW TCG has been better than MTG for years, especially when it comes to limited (Draft, Sealed)

It's a very similar concept but with much, much less rage inducing mana screw thanks to the quest system.

Seriously, losing a tournament because you have a starting hand with 0-1 or 6-7 mana is absolutely ridiculous. I'm surprised MTG hasn't moved past that model yet, the only reason it's still the top dog is because it started the top dog.
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-26 14:29:44
September 26 2013 14:28 GMT
#75
On September 26 2013 23:19 devilesk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 22:46 Spaylz wrote:

Edit : In fact, in order to see exactly how hard it will be to beat LoL, just look at Dota 2. They had Valve, the original trademark of the game, the well-known game maker IceFrog and the insanely popular Steam platform. LoL still blew it out of the water. So, yeah.


LoL had a four year head start since it was released in '09 and Dota 2 was released just this summer. LoL had already been released for two years before Dota 2 was even unveiled at the first International. Original trademark, IceFrog, and Steam don't mean anything when the game isn't public. Despite that, I think Dota 2 has been doing very well since it's release. It's on the rise and will be a strong competitor to LoL.


Dota 2 was released this summer, yes, but it had been in beta for like a whole year. Everyone and their mother had a chance to play Dota 2 before it officially came out, and TI was already happening in beta. On a factual standpoint, Dota 2 was released over a year ago.

Your point still stands, LoL had a head start, but even so I don't see Dota 2 catching up to LoL. The game is just way, way ahead. Dota 2 is doing very well though, usually about ~500k players online during peaks, and always at least 120-150k, which is pretty much the peak for HoN (the third competitor). I expect the player base to keep growing, but I doubt it will ever go above 10-15 millions, which is still only half of LoL (as of now, it's 6 millions player per month, 500k online at peaks against 30 million and at least 2 million players at peaks).

It's not really about Dota 2 being bad, it's just that 30 million players is a HUGE number.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
September 26 2013 14:34 GMT
#76
On September 26 2013 14:05 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 14:01 quebecman77 wrote:
On September 26 2013 13:45 D10 wrote:
Too little too late, might as well make an FPS


starcraft fps ? or diablo 2 ? , they SHOULD !!!!!



starcraft ghost, never forget.....

It was third-person though.
devilesk
Profile Joined May 2005
United States140 Posts
September 26 2013 15:02 GMT
#77
On September 26 2013 23:28 Spaylz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 23:19 devilesk wrote:
On September 26 2013 22:46 Spaylz wrote:

Edit : In fact, in order to see exactly how hard it will be to beat LoL, just look at Dota 2. They had Valve, the original trademark of the game, the well-known game maker IceFrog and the insanely popular Steam platform. LoL still blew it out of the water. So, yeah.


LoL had a four year head start since it was released in '09 and Dota 2 was released just this summer. LoL had already been released for two years before Dota 2 was even unveiled at the first International. Original trademark, IceFrog, and Steam don't mean anything when the game isn't public. Despite that, I think Dota 2 has been doing very well since it's release. It's on the rise and will be a strong competitor to LoL.


Dota 2 was released this summer, yes, but it had been in beta for like a whole year. Everyone and their mother had a chance to play Dota 2 before it officially came out, and TI was already happening in beta. On a factual standpoint, Dota 2 was released over a year ago.

Your point still stands, LoL had a head start, but even so I don't see Dota 2 catching up to LoL. The game is just way, way ahead. Dota 2 is doing very well though, usually about ~500k players online during peaks, and always at least 120-150k, which is pretty much the peak for HoN (the third competitor). I expect the player base to keep growing, but I doubt it will ever go above 10-15 millions, which is still only half of LoL (as of now, it's 6 millions player per month, 500k online at peaks against 30 million and at least 2 million players at peaks).

It's not really about Dota 2 being bad, it's just that 30 million players is a HUGE number.


I don't think Dota 2 will catch up in terms of players. But whatever the strengths of Dota 2 are, Blizzard will have a hard time matching it, just as it will have a hard time LoL's sheer numbers.

Blizzard is like the Windows phone trying to compete with Apple and Android.
www.devilesk.com/dota2
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
September 26 2013 15:43 GMT
#78
LoL vs Dota is a matter of preference, like SF vs MvC. Both games can co-exist in the genre appealing to different crowds, and neither will "kill" the other. Dota vs HoN, however, can be seen as a more direct competition, as the games are similar in a lot of ways.

By the direction Blizzard has been taking on recent games (e.g. Hearthstone), I would assume Blizzard All-Stars will tend to be more competition to LoL than Dota/HoN.
Arrinao
Profile Joined September 2013
21 Posts
September 27 2013 06:48 GMT
#79
I'm too rather skeptical about the success of this game. Well, skeptical... I predict that it will stand out of the "other MOBA" crowd, just barely though and it will never reach the height of Dota 2 / LoL. I don't have much faith behind the team that worked on it, being mainly SC2 team which just IMO didn't make a very good job on SC2, where they basically didn't make any big changes at all and yet managed to screw up the gameplay.

While there is always a chance, that they will come up with something absolutely mindblowing, think about it. Even given how slim that chance is, the truth is that in the end it will most likely only end up making Dota 2 and LoL better. How? Well one of the reasons WoW held up for so long and kept things fresh, was because of copying succesful ideas from other MMO's. Now given the fact that LoL is Riot's bread and butter, and Valve probably wouldn't want to stay behind either... if Blizzard All-stars really comes with something revolutional I'd give it about half a year to see almost that exact thingy in LoL and Dota in some form.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
September 27 2013 06:55 GMT
#80
This game will be the best moba out there.

They have watched the competitors, they know what game mechanics are good, they have the best characters and now everything will be unveiled.

YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!

Can't wait until Blizzcon.
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