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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 08 2017 02:43 GMT
#1841
On November 05 2017 00:29 infinity21 wrote:
Yeah, I mean if your opponent is rated 1000, you should never resign especially in bullet/blitz since he'll probably stalemate you lol


Yeah definitely. I once won a game of blitz (against an opponent rated roughly 1100~1200) when I was down to only pawns and he had a queen and rook. He still had minutes left on his clock, though he was probably distracted since he was bm-ing me in the chat (which was the only reason I hadn't resigned tbh).
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
November 08 2017 03:29 GMT
#1842
On November 08 2017 06:14 fishjie wrote:
did your opponent really keep playing that out? how many more moves did hey play?

anyway got up to 1350 blitz yesterday, but went on tilt today and dropped back down to 1300. was really hoping to break into 1400. in a month or two i hope. holding steady at 1500 daily chess. need to keep grinding and keep climbing. i'm happy cause over a decade ago in high school i was ranked 1100 scholastic, so at least i've gotten better since then - and i haven't competed since then either, just been reading books and playing coworkers and friends from time to time

Good stuff man. Keep at it.

He resigned after we each moved once. I'm up to 1634 in daily chess (7-0-0) but only beat people under 1500 so far and I mostly won with simple tactics. Playing a guy rated 1697 so we'll see how that goes
Official Entusman #21
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 22 2017 23:55 GMT
#1843
holding steady at 1600 daily chess, but in blitz still stuck in 1300. yesterday i got into 1370 after beating some 1400s but then tilted after losing a bunch to 1200. i dunno maybe the pressure of losing lot of rating points makes me play worse against lower rated. =(

in other news anyone heard of this fraud max deutsch whose claim to fame is to be able to learn really fast? i was randomly looking at youtube, and this guy was gonna learn how to beat magnus in a month LOL. what a joke. well he ended up playing magnus and got completely RUINED. pretty fucking arrogant if you ask me. Dunning–Kruger effect
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chess-novice-challenged-magnus-carlsen-1510866214
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 23 2017 00:52 GMT
#1844
On November 23 2017 08:55 fishjie wrote:
holding steady at 1600 daily chess, but in blitz still stuck in 1300. yesterday i got into 1370 after beating some 1400s but then tilted after losing a bunch to 1200. i dunno maybe the pressure of losing lot of rating points makes me play worse against lower rated. =(

in other news anyone heard of this fraud max deutsch whose claim to fame is to be able to learn really fast? i was randomly looking at youtube, and this guy was gonna learn how to beat magnus in a month LOL. what a joke. well he ended up playing magnus and got completely RUINED. pretty fucking arrogant if you ask me. Dunning–Kruger effect
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chess-novice-challenged-magnus-carlsen-1510866214


I don't think there's necessarily any arrogance to it. He's a fraud who found a great way to market himself. I don't think he believes a word of what he said.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
November 23 2017 01:06 GMT
#1845
Lmao I read that article. I think a more reasonable goal was to beat NYC hustlers or something with his level of skill.

I used to be 1200 bullet, 1400 blitz and 1500 rapid for a long time but something clicked and now I'm hovering around 1500 for all 3 time controls. I still go on tilt during bullet sometimes and lose 100+ rating points though. Lost a couple of games in daily but still sitting at 1680 with a 11-2-0 record so far.
Official Entusman #21
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden887 Posts
November 23 2017 22:39 GMT
#1846
I also saw this article and i actually checked one of his other challenges, 40 pullups, and it was complete bs, he did no strict pullups, even crossfit would give him 0/40 on his "pullups" dont think half reps, think quarter pullups. What a character
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 25 2017 01:25 GMT
#1847
Why on earth do people play the awful 3...Bg4 Philidor Defence with such frequency? It seems like I end up playing against it as white once every ten games, more often than anything else except for the regular Italian/Spanish/Sicilian stuff.

I'm not complaining since more often than not it results in easy wins, but it seems disproportionately played around the 1200-1300 blitz level, and I'm wondering if there's some sort of reason.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-25 06:21:30
November 25 2017 06:16 GMT
#1848
On November 25 2017 10:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Why on earth do people play the awful 3...Bg4 Philidor Defence with such frequency? It seems like I end up playing against it as white once every ten games, more often than anything else except for the regular Italian/Spanish/Sicilian stuff.

I'm not complaining since more often than not it results in easy wins, but it seems disproportionately played around the 1200-1300 blitz level, and I'm wondering if there's some sort of reason.


I like it a lot, as black I almost always play the french defense or the philidor defence. Unlike most openings, like the sicilian, it's lines are easier, and capitalizing on blunders is easier. It's still a solid opening, I'm sure if Magnus opened with it every game he'd still be 2700.

If you can manage to keep the center pawn and castle, then I think the defensive position is very nice, you're not overextended with 2 pawns on the 4th rank, and from that point, tactics are more forgiving, and you have more flexibility in developing your position. The only unnatural thing about the opening is for lines you need to develop your bishops early, or there's a couple traps you can fall into.

edit: Ah, nevermind, you're complaining about the 3rd move, not the defense itself. Yeah, I feel like if you try bg4, you'll learn one your f7 pawn is super weak until you castle, and learn not to do anything offensive until you do.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-25 06:47:28
November 25 2017 06:46 GMT
#1849
On November 25 2017 15:16 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2017 10:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Why on earth do people play the awful 3...Bg4 Philidor Defence with such frequency? It seems like I end up playing against it as white once every ten games, more often than anything else except for the regular Italian/Spanish/Sicilian stuff.

I'm not complaining since more often than not it results in easy wins, but it seems disproportionately played around the 1200-1300 blitz level, and I'm wondering if there's some sort of reason.


I like it a lot, as black I almost always play the french defense or the philidor defence. Unlike most openings, like the sicilian, it's lines are easier, and capitalizing on blunders is easier. It's still a solid opening, I'm sure if Magnus opened with it every game he'd still be 2700.

If you can manage to keep the center pawn and castle, then I think the defensive position is very nice, you're not overextended with 2 pawns on the 4th rank, and from that point, tactics are more forgiving, and you have more flexibility in developing your position. The only unnatural thing about the opening is for lines you need to develop your bishops early, or there's a couple traps you can fall into.

edit: Ah, nevermind, you're complaining about the 3rd move, not the defense itself. Yeah, I feel like if you try bg4, you'll learn one your f7 pawn is super weak until you castle, and learn not to do anything offensive until you do.


Yeah it's the 3...Bg4 that puzzles me. A sizeable fraction of the time the game ends up playing out just like the 'Opera Game' and it's basically over by move 7. I even played one guy who insta-resigned after move 7, and when I looked at his match history I noticed that he'd resigned in the exact same position several times in the past, which seems really odd. Seems like the type of mistake you make once and then never repeat again, but I keep on running into it over and over from different people.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 28 2017 01:45 GMT
#1850
On November 23 2017 10:06 infinity21 wrote:
Lmao I read that article. I think a more reasonable goal was to beat NYC hustlers or something with his level of skill.

I used to be 1200 bullet, 1400 blitz and 1500 rapid for a long time but something clicked and now I'm hovering around 1500 for all 3 time controls. I still go on tilt during bullet sometimes and lose 100+ rating points though. Lost a couple of games in daily but still sitting at 1680 with a 11-2-0 record so far.


from where i'm standing (900 LMAO), 1500+ bullet is incredible. I drop pieces all the time, and even if i don't then i lose on time control. i already find blitz pretty difficult as it is. do you play on your phone or on an ipad or the computer?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
November 28 2017 03:33 GMT
#1851
The appeal of Blitz is still strange to me (especially if I'm playing).

For me, the perfect time control is 15|10, and 10 mins is okay if I'm a bit short on time. Blitz just feels like a completely different game, there's no thinking involved, it's just recalling past positions and trying to apply them to your current position, it's all played by what feels good rather than what is good.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-28 03:58:19
November 28 2017 03:57 GMT
#1852
On November 28 2017 12:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
The appeal of Blitz is still strange to me (especially if I'm playing).

For me, the perfect time control is 15|10, and 10 mins is okay if I'm a bit short on time. Blitz just feels like a completely different game, there's no thinking involved, it's just recalling past positions and trying to apply them to your current position, it's all played by what feels good rather than what is good.


Blitz is a pretty broad term. 10|0 is considered Blitz usually (though lichess considers it 'Classical' for unknowable reasons) as is 3|0 (with 3|2 being the most typical Blitz time), but they're really different.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
November 28 2017 04:33 GMT
#1853
On November 28 2017 12:57 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2017 12:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
The appeal of Blitz is still strange to me (especially if I'm playing).

For me, the perfect time control is 15|10, and 10 mins is okay if I'm a bit short on time. Blitz just feels like a completely different game, there's no thinking involved, it's just recalling past positions and trying to apply them to your current position, it's all played by what feels good rather than what is good.


Blitz is a pretty broad term. 10|0 is considered Blitz usually (though lichess considers it 'Classical' for unknowable reasons) as is 3|0 (with 3|2 being the most typical Blitz time), but they're really different.


Yeah, I guess I kind of went with my own definitions that I use when I talk with my friends.

<2 is Bullet
2 to 3|2 or 5 is Blitz
5|3-15|10 or 20 is Rapid
20+ is Classical

Since 5 hours~ to finish one game of chess being a classic time is a bit unreasonable when talking about how normal people play. So we get our own definitions, which does make it a bit confusing, but I'm not fond of a body like FIDE getting to decide the terminology.

10 minutes is the bare minimum I'm comfortable with being able to actually think out a couple lines, it kind of becomes a game of starcraft where it's all about balancing where to use your time. At 2-3 minutes, I really don't think at all.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-28 17:36:13
November 28 2017 17:29 GMT
#1854
i play on chess.com so i use their definitions - bullet is 1 minute
blitz is 5 min to 10 min, rapid is 30 min, and daily is daily

blitz appeals to me because they are fast games and less stressful, like fighting games. longer chess games are like playing RTS, where losing a game after working at it for 30 min is demoralizing, whereas playing a fighting game each match is over in a few minutes and losing you might get tilted but you move on to next watch and have already forgotten it. and you can review the blitz games and the computer points out stuff which is good for tactics training. for a beginner like me its helped me a lot with my daily chess games, which are stressful because again, losing after spending literally days on a game is soul crushing. in fact when i'm in losing positions often i procrastinate making my move until the last day because i'm so disgusted with my own bad play.

other nice benefit of blitz is i can just learn the various openings, which before i started playing chess again i had next to no knowledge about openings. now i can grind out tons of games for these openings and learn what the resulting pawn structures should look like. although at 1300 people still don't play the standard shit, either cause they dont know it, or because it burns time by forcing opponent to think. but even playing against shit openings such as e4 e5 qh5 i learned the best way to defend
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
December 04 2017 03:45 GMT
#1855
Speaking of e4 e5 Qh5, which is called Parham Attack, I played the son of the the guy that this opening is named after (Bernard Parham) yesterday in a tournament.
I was black, and we got e4 e5 Qh5.
Unfortunately, I blew a winning position and was only able to draw.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Pulimuli1
Profile Joined August 2017
33 Posts
December 04 2017 07:48 GMT
#1856
hello everyone im quite new to chess, been playing since may this year, im bouncing between 1300 and 1400 most of the time. Would be nice to have some practice partners and stuff
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
December 04 2017 11:01 GMT
#1857
On November 28 2017 10:45 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2017 10:06 infinity21 wrote:
Lmao I read that article. I think a more reasonable goal was to beat NYC hustlers or something with his level of skill.

I used to be 1200 bullet, 1400 blitz and 1500 rapid for a long time but something clicked and now I'm hovering around 1500 for all 3 time controls. I still go on tilt during bullet sometimes and lose 100+ rating points though. Lost a couple of games in daily but still sitting at 1680 with a 11-2-0 record so far.


from where i'm standing (900 LMAO), 1500+ bullet is incredible. I drop pieces all the time, and even if i don't then i lose on time control. i already find blitz pretty difficult as it is. do you play on your phone or on an ipad or the computer?

I was at 1600 in bullet a while back on chess.com. My results really improved when I started playing on my phone. It's really much, much faster than a computer. The screen is small, and you can move / premove in a split second. I think in general, playing with a mouse puts you in a huge disadvantage.

Bullets requires very good reflexes, automatic repertoire of both opening and ideas and solid basic tactics. On the other hand, you don't need very good visualization skills, because you don't have time to calculate long lines at all. You go for what looks good, and that's a matter of experience and pattern recognition. I think you can be a decent player and suck balls at bullets and be a mediocre player and be quite good at it. I have played something like 12000 games on blitz and bullets but I don't think I have played more than two or three dozen rapid or standard games against opponents of my level in the last five years. Makes me really bad at complicated calculation, and my visualization skills are awful.

Now, you can go for the Polish or any offbeat junk against me and I'll blitz the crap out of the opening and always get a decent position. I've really seen it all.

Anyway. If you want to be a good player don't do like me
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden887 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-04 16:38:19
December 04 2017 16:35 GMT
#1858
bullet is terrible long term for ur chess, its the one time control which will destroy ur ability to play even 5 minute games. Speaking from own experience and seeing bullet spammers getting rly bad at chess
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
December 04 2017 17:39 GMT
#1859
On December 05 2017 01:35 sertas wrote:
bullet is terrible long term for ur chess, its the one time control which will destroy ur ability to play even 5 minute games. Speaking from own experience and seeing bullet spammers getting rly bad at chess

Well my bullet ratings were always parallel with my blitz ratings. I think it depends a bit of your approach.

If you really want to improve, i think rapid and classical are the best, with some blitz to get some practice with a bigger range of opening and situations. Most important is to study, with books if possible. That’s what really changed my playing.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 05 2017 20:08 GMT
#1860
On December 04 2017 16:48 Pulimuli1 wrote:
hello everyone im quite new to chess, been playing since may this year, im bouncing between 1300 and 1400 most of the time. Would be nice to have some practice partners and stuff


Hello if you play on chess.com you can add me jieyangh i am 1300 blitz and 1600 on daily chess

what i have learned is that the ratings (at least for daily chess) are badly overinflated. i just beat a 1500 who left his queen hanging to my knight. like i wasn't even trying to win his queen, i was trying to chase her away. no fork no tactics, nothing, just a bad blunder. no way even a 1000 would do that in a real live chess tournament. i'm guessing a lot of people just play daily chess like blitz and take a few seconds per move, and play on breaks
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