[Event] Summer Games Done Quick 2013 - Page 33

On July 30 2013 10:06 Leyra wrote:


I said most! Admittedly, I've never seen an FF6 run , either. FFX is fairly glitchy, but 7-9 are not so broken, neither is 5. But comparing them to something like OoT, they look pretty normal. :D

On July 30 2013 10:12 WolfintheSheep wrote:

On the contrary, there's a major glitch in FF9 that skips a huge chunk of the game, but leaves Garnet permanently mute.

On July 30 2013 10:21 Leyra wrote:


Really? What glitch is this, I don't remember this at all, lol. Is it new? Watched Cara run a ton of FF9 a couple months ago.

As for legends, also haven't seen those, but, like you said, not main series games. :D

On July 30 2013 10:27 WolfintheSheep wrote:

Gold Chocobo glitch. No idea if it's used in speedruns, but it's pretty major.

On July 30 2013 10:29 Leyra wrote:


Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that. Apparently it's a little bit slower than the regular speedrun route, because you still have to grind hot&cold? But you're right, I did not remember that, pretty significant glitch, lol

On July 30 2013 10:39 WolfintheSheep wrote:

Also, if I remember correctly...original versions of FF8 also had a Junction glitch where you could junction one magic multiple times. That's a fairly big deal.

FF7 also has the W-Item glitch, but that doesn't show up until late in the game.

On July 30 2013 11:24 garbanzo wrote:
So that's why this is Die Hard%...

On July 30 2013 11:27 c0ldfusion wrote:


What's Die Hard%?

On July 30 2013 11:30 garbanzo wrote:

The FFIV run is in the "Die Hard%" category. I guess it involves a glitch that requires going up and down stairs repeatedly, just like in Die Hard any% run.

On July 30 2013 11:32 c0ldfusion wrote:

ok thanks, interesting.

These are some intricate glitches it looks like. He had to change the colors repeatedly.

I have no idea what he's trying to do...

On July 30 2013 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
BigD looks like he's having an absolute blast there.

The way this game works has to do with something called "hierarchy" in the programming. Basically, in order to warp back to previous rooms, the game keeps track of the rooms you've entered, giving them each a number. The world map is "0", the next place you enter is "1", and so on. Most entrances and exits will raise the number one by one; however, a few of them will subtract the number (most common with one-entrance rooms).
The thing is, the programmers only thought to have values 0 through 63 for this -- after all, how many dungeons would have more doors? Once you get to floor 64, the value rolls over to 0... and if you go through a "-1" door, the glitch happens. This can be done in a few places throughout the game.
When you get this glitch, it takes you through what I call negative floors. These floors are based on different values in the ram -- floor -4, for example, depends on airship position. When going down through these floors, you'll eventually find one that depends on values in the "custom" menu. By changing those values, you can go... well, pretty much wherever you want.

On July 30 2013 11:34 garbanzo wrote:

Probably memory manipulation; it's very common in Pokemon runs. He was saying that there was some floor counter that he overflowed by repeatedly going up/down the stairs.