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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
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Flaccid
8887 Posts
I think that to make assumptions about people who have tattoos is stupid, as is the person with the tattoo of his favourite brand of whiskey on his neck's indignation towards others making assumptions about him... So I find it hard to have a black and white opinion about it one way or the other. A tattoo, like most things in life, can be quite nice if done tastefully. Also, like most things in life, it rarely is. When people have this argument, it is inevitably the tattoo's fan who praises the personal meaning and symbolism of such a permanent marking upon a person's body. And that is true for some tattoos, though it would be a very small percentage. To talk about the tattoo as a heightened form of expression is to talk about proportionally few tattoos. To call the majority of tattoos anything more than the pursuance of a fad would be spitting on the wonderful tramp stamps and stars-on-elbows that people wear so proudly! It is less common for someone to get a tattoo to mark something meaningful than it is for someone to seek out something quasi-meaningful as an excuse to have a tattoo. So maybe those who wish to proclaim the greatness of their own tattoos can forgive others their well-earned scepticism. A tattoo can be great. So can a pop-song. But most of what we are exposed to everyday in pop music is awful. It is derivative, meaningless, and forgettable. And pop music requires no advanced state of understanding to comprehend. Tattoos have become pop music. But that doesn't mean a pop song can't still be beautiful. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On July 08 2013 07:42 Defacer wrote: Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art. The issue I have with this, is that many dont want to have to look at your self expression. Tasteful tattoos are fine, but covering yourself so you can be "unique" and "different" scream "look at me and my artful expressions". | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
I think scarification is cool but it's hard to do well and I think it's rather dangerous. Scarification picture posted by venomium(OP) seems to be a fresh one. I don't think there's any validity to showing fresh ones because the scar tissue hasn't formed, and hence it won't look at all like that. | ||
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://news.bme.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mega-facial-scar.jpg) I put it in a spoiler for a reason. | ||
white_horse
1019 Posts
Also, people with a lot of tattoos often make the assumption that they look cool, and that other people think they look cool too. I could care less about the former, but the latter? Dead wrong dudes. Unless you're trying to be some kind of rebel against society. Then that's just you. | ||
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SatelliteNoodles
220 Posts
Btw, beautiful tattoos opie. Edit: Holy shit! It's beautiful but still ew lol  [QUOTE]On July 08 2013 11:44 Daumen wrote: everthing at once, in the face (scarification is fresh): + Show Spoiler + I put it in a spoiler for a reason.[/QUOTE | ||
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dotHead
United States233 Posts
Something I have found a little odd is how negative reactions are. Someone else having a tattoo doesn't effect you, or change how they act, or think, and most importantly, they don't care what you think, or what you would have or wouldn't have done. It's ok to not like something, it's not ok to be a dick. | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
To ask what the general community thinks of "Body Adornments" is asking for a lot of cringe statements. I love tattoos, especially those that are beautifully done, i would never have it done to me though, or have anything else done for that matter. | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
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dotHead
United States233 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:44 Daumen wrote: everthing at once, in the face (scarification is fresh): + Show Spoiler + I put it in a spoiler for a reason. A friend of mine did this piece, if you are going to show photos of scarification. At least show healed, or almost healed photos. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/549839_355338844582569_368146664_n.jpg) | ||
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mozoku
United States708 Posts
As for the "tattoo typecasting" discussion, I've got a few things to add: 1) As someone who doesn't have a tattoo, I find some of the labels that some people are trying to put on me pretty offensive. The facts that I'm going to graduate school in a math-related field and that I don't have a tattoo doesn't make me "terrified of making mistakes" and neither does it make any of my classmates as such. Nor does it mean I "don't have strong beliefs" or that I don't have a tattoo because I'm too "chicken shit" to get one. This is especially ironic because the quoted statements above were responses to people criticizing the decision to get tattoos. Attempting to legitimize your choice to get body adornments to people who chose not to get them by insulting them for not making the same choice (to get said adornments) is probably as counterproductive as it sounds. Insulting them will just reinforce their beliefs. 2) My take on the discussion as a whole: I view tattoos (and body adornments in general) like I view other controllable physical traits like being overweight (in most cases), having good hygiene, etc.. In my experience (which doesn't necessarily generalize to everyone's), people with tattoos are more likely to be short-sighted, impulsive, and egocentric. Just like people who are overweight are more likely to be lazy. However, more likely doesn't equal always true. I know some very hardworking people who are overweight and are simply unlucky with genes, environment, etc. I also know many people with tattoos who break the stereotype I mentioned above. So what does this mean when I meet someone with a tattoo? It's one negative component of a first impression made up of many factors. In other words, it's a negative when I have nothing else to judge from, but it also doesn't mean anything whatsoever after I get to know the person. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:44 Daumen wrote: everthing at once, in the face (scarification is fresh): + Show Spoiler + I put it in a spoiler for a reason. Wow I googled Iestyn Fly and found his tumbler. Some crazy people on there. Tattoos I understand, but some of these people go to crazy extents. This is the spoilered image completely healed if people are interested: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://24.media.tumblr.com/006b4bc42bec3006d0a4c4660323dab4/tumblr_mjyt9n5EG91rq4682o1_1280.jpg) http://theabsolute108.tumblr.com/ The most notable thing I saw was someone has a gauged ballsack. Looked like 1/4 inch hole or something. The whole site is the embodiment of body art gone too far. | ||
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dotHead
United States233 Posts
On July 08 2013 12:18 Najda wrote: Wow I googled Iestyn Fly and found his tumbler. Some crazy people on there. Tattoos I understand, but some of these people go to crazy extents. This is the spoilered image completely healed if people are interested: + Show Spoiler + http://theabsolute108.tumblr.com/ The most notable thing I saw was someone has a gauged ballsack. Looked like 1/4 inch hole or something. The whole site is the embodiment of body art gone too far. Iestyn is really in to Sacred Geometry and this piece is a play on the flower of life. Davinci was a big fan of it as well (He didn't cut it in to his face though haha) ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/DaVinci-FOL1.jpg) A few people who had tattoos, that you wouldnt expect (Presidents, etc). | ||
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MarlieChurphy
United States2065 Posts
#1 People these days are always quick to call someone judgmental or be like "Hey man, it's just his thing. Let him do his thing." When someone disagrees with what people or a person do/does. When in reality this isn't the case. People are getting wackier and wackier with "their things" and it's not because they are expressing themselves or whatever you need to call it for it to be 'accepted' by [some part of] society. So I used to be of this line of thought as well, and didn't judge people by their appearance or whatever. Which is great under normal circumstances 'in a vacuum' to be fair to everyone before you know them, but again this isn't the case. Disregarding all the superficial arguments about it being trendy, or its not even unique to have a tattoo anymore, or it's a waste of money, dangers of disease or body rejecting, etc. A lot of people doing all these body mods and tats are really just people acting out (technically acting in). It's sort of different for males and females as to what the reasons are, but the core issues are still the same; they come from traumatic pasts or have had trauma in their formative years. These aggressive piercings and full sleeves and body tats are just another cry for help or self treating with a pain therapy. (which is why I always see people on fb posting stuff like 'I NEED TO GET ANOTHER TAT' or 'LOVE THAT PAIN OF TATTOOS') It's akin to people who self cut to regulate emotions because of severe trauma as a child. Now don't get me wrong, there is a wide spectrum of body modding and some people just get a tat or maybe a few which is probably ok. This would be like the guy who drinks often but does not have the addiction gene/disease and isn't an alcoholic. That doesn't make it any better for you or less dangerous though. The bottom line is that It's sort of an aggressive nonverbal communication. "You have to look at my tats. If you don't like it, fuck you." If you go up to anyone with a tat and even neutrally ask them about why they have tats or they don't look good or whatever you almost instantly get a confrontation. When if they were open minded they should say the same thing that people who defend tats always say; "Hey man, it's just your thing to not like tats." Btw, don't get me wrong. I don't automatically pass a judgement on an individual for having tats as being someone with issues, a bad person, or whatever negative connotation you could apply. I have lots of friends with lots of tats and piercings and even friends that do tats (which actually further this theory). However, it does tell me something about that person intrinsically which they will have to overcome or prove otherwise upon further discovery of that person. Sort of like how trust and respect have to be earned, only they start with a small deficit to begin with. PS- Unless you are going to discuss these points or argue unbiased and objectively, I'm not going to respond. PPS- To me it makes no difference if a girl has or doesn't have tats or other body mods as far as her sex appeal. It's sort of irrelevant/meaningless. Although a girl with a shit ton of body mod is definitely a turn off if it ruins her natural beauty and appearance. It's more like a novel thing that I would want to experience but get over, you know like a girl who has naturally big/long nipples or something. OT- + Show Spoiler + Lance: Hey, whattya think about Trudi? She ain't got a boyfriend. You wanna hang out, get high? Vincent: Which one's Trudi? The one with all the shit in her face? Lance: No, that's Jody. That's my wife. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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dotHead
United States233 Posts
On July 08 2013 13:21 MarlieChurphy wrote: (which is why I always see people on fb posting stuff like 'I NEED TO GET ANOTHER TAT' or 'LOVE THAT PAIN OF TATTOOS') Sounds like you just have a poor choice of friends on Facebook. "You have to look at my tats. If you don't like it, fuck you." So you don't know anyone with tattoos, and just watch television? If you go up to anyone with a tat and even neutrally ask them about why they have tats or they don't look good or whatever you almost instantly get a confrontation. You pretty much just said... Anytime I walk up to a complete stranger, and ask them personal questions, and then insult them... You get confrontation. Although a girl with a shit ton of body mod is definitely a turn off if it ruins her natural beauty and appearance. It's more like a novel thing that I would want to experience but get over, you know like a girl who has naturally big/long nipples or something. I'm glad you have a bucket list of certain types of girls you want to objectify, use for sex, and then "get over". And thank you for warning that you won't respond to replies like this, I don't want to hear anything else you have to say on a subject, you obviously know nothing about. | ||
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
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killy666
France204 Posts
A lot of people doing all these body mods and tats are really just people acting out (technically acting in). It's sort of different for males and females as to what the reasons are, but the core issues are still the same; they come from traumatic pasts or have had trauma in their formative years. These aggressive piercings and full sleeves and body tats are just another cry for help or self treating with a pain therapy. (which is why I always see people on fb posting stuff like 'I NEED TO GET ANOTHER TAT' or 'LOVE THAT PAIN OF TATTOOS') It's akin to people who self cut to regulate emotions because of severe trauma as a child. I won't lie, these persons exists. And as a tatooed guy / someone that lives frequently in these circles and stuff. Boy are they annoying, and dude, we dislike them just as much as you do, even more because as a tatooed guy as I get assimilated to these persons . But it is very narrowminded to reduce bodmod population to this. A lot of my friends are tatooed a few of them own tatoo parlors, and have a lot of ink on their bodies. I'm actually hosting a friend of mine that has his whole body covered for the week-end, he is sleeping in my guest-room as I'm typing this, and works full-time as a tatoo artist. None of my tatoos can be seen when i'm clothed. Still I myself sport a lot of ink. Why can't they be seen? Because it is a personal decision, something intimate, and that i only share with the closest of my friends and people that can see me naked. They have a deep meaning to me, and showing them to people is the same as showing myself naked to people. These tatoos are the testimony of a past life a used to live and are the story of the things that made me who I am today, and hence I feel that sharing them to the world is something I wouldn't want to do. You'll notice that this is quite the opposite view from the one you're getting. Once again, the stupid attention-whore with daddy issue exist. But please, do not put everyone in the same basket. It's like saying that everyone that enjoys a drink is a stupid Frat-bro-alpha-male-do-you-even-lift-type, or that every e-sport enthousiast is a fat geek with a neckbeard that doesn't shower and can't talk to women. There is a population for which body modifications his a passion with a deep personal meaning, and the fact that it has been used by other people as a trend / a means of showing of in the last few decades shouldn't make you forget about the history of some things that have been going on for THOUSANDS of year (as some other poster has said). The bottom line is that It's sort of an aggressive nonverbal communication. "You have to look at my tats. If you don't like it, fuck you." If you go up to anyone with a tat and even neutrally ask them about why they have tats or they don't look good or whatever you almost instantly get a confrontation. When if they were open minded they should say the same thing that people who defend tats always say; "Hey man, it's just your thing to not like tats." Something that bothers me here is that you assimilate every tatooed person with this agressive communication. Once again it would be lying to say these people don't exist, people showing of with their tatoos, covering their lack of substance with some drawing on their body, using this as a clutch to sustain their shallow existence. But they were doing the same thing with fancy clothes and jewelery, with luxury cars before. You shouldn't feel agression by seeing a tatoo, most of the time if you see it, it's not because people want to show it, it's just that it happens to be there. Period. You'll understand that we can't spend our times hiding our bodies (even more so with the summer heat coming in). But the fact that it can be seen doesn't necessarily scream LOOK AT ME, once again, not with all people, and the fact that you consider all visible tatoos like this is a skewed approach on things. If anything, i'd rather have my tatoos not seen, if only to not suffer for that view you have on things (which is sad in the grand look of things) Btw, don't get me wrong. I don't automatically pass a judgement on an individual for having tats as being someone with issues, a bad person, or whatever negative connotation you could apply. I have lots of friends with lots of tats and piercings and even friends that do tats (which actually further this theory). However, it does tell me something about that person intrinsically which they will have to overcome or prove otherwise upon further discovery of that person. Sort of like how trust and respect have to be earned, only they start with a small deficit to begin with. What if all these things that bodmods tell you about people intrinsically were wrong? If you allow me saying "I don't automatically pass judgement but it does tell me some things about people" is contradictory to me. PS- Unless you are going to discuss these points or argue unbiased and objectively, I'm not going to respond. I hope I did, and if it was the case, thanks for taking the time to read me. | ||
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