A few posts have been made by some TL-ers about their tattoo’s, but I’ve been wondering; what does the general populace here think of body adornment like:
Body piercing, a form of body modification, is the practice of puncturing or cutting a part of the human body, creating an opening in which jewelery may be worn. The word piercing can refer to the act or practice of body piercing, or to an opening in the body created by this act or practice.
Stretching, in the context of body piercing, is the deliberate expansion of a healed piercing for the purpose of wearing certain types of jewelry. Ear piercings are the most commonly stretched piercings, with nasal septum piercings, tongue piercings and lip piercings/lip plates following close[citation needed] behind.
A subdermal implant refers to a kind of body jewelry that is placed underneath the skin, therefore allowing the body to heal over the implant and creating a raised design.
Scarifying (also scarification modification) involves scratching, etching, burning / branding, or superficially cutting designs, pictures, or words into the skin as a permanent body modification.[1] In the process of body scarification, scars are formed by cutting or branding the skin by varying methods. Scarification is sometimes called cicatrization (from the French equivalent).
Do you have body art yourself? Maybe your partner, friends and/ or family, or do you maybe think that your body is your temple and shouldn't be modified?
My personal opinion: I have multiple tattoo's, two of which I'll put in the spoiler below (please do so as well if you want to show off), so yeah, I really like them. However, even though some tattoo's look really nice on girls, I've yet to see a girl who's more beautiful with tattoo's than without. It's hypocritical, I know^^
Piercing and scarring aren't really to my liking... Pierced ears are okay (even though I don't like it that young children get them), but al others... I don't really see the beauty of ramming a metal rod through your flesh.
And I think that, since this is art for your entire life, that it should have some deeper meaning than 'ohhhh, shiny!'
I always though these things were gross. I used to ask people who did it, if they run out of paper for drawing so they continued to do it on their bodies. Immature, I know, but still can't get into my head how any of this is art.
This Scarification stuff is pure masochistic in nature. It doesnt loook any better than a tattoo and is only made for the sake of beeing masochistic. Actually it looks worse. I dont mind Tatoos at all, many of them are actually artistic and for the sake of aesthetics. Piercings look nice as long as the person doesnt go batshit crazy with them and overloads the whole face with metal. Besides beeing absolutely impractical I dont think metalfaces are aesthetic at all. That Metallip-girl in the picture would look way better without all those things on her lip. That nose and ear thingy is more than enough, everything more is just a waste of a pretty face.
Edit: I think OP forgot Implants, yet another absolutely not good looking thing :D
When I hear scarification, I think more of what savage tribes might do when they don't have tattoos. Can't believe people would do that in modern society. Well I guess I can believe it, people will do anything as long as it's the cool new thing, but it's still weird as hell imo.
Anyway, I don't have a problem with modest tattoos or piercings, just as long as they're not covering everything.
I just straight up dislike tattoos. The skin wasn't meant to be a canvas. Keep artwork on paper or on the computer. Piercings are also a no go for me unless it's for earrings. Even then it's still iffy... Scarification is insane. Seems like people just want infections smh
I don't like tattoos or scarification (though I have never knowingly seen that in real life) but I do like pierced ears and belly buttons (nose piercings I'm neutral to as long as its a stud).
I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
I hate all 3. Scarification is by far the worse and anybody doing it should at the very least see a shrink. Piercings are pretty much always horrible, although some are relatively okay-ish while others are just nope. One or two small tattoos with significance can also be okay-ish though still a bad idea in general, bigger ones (especially the coloured ones) are just awful.
Piercing and scarification never where my thing, as for tattos I always liked them (the more if they carry a story or special meaning behind). As a matter of fact I have an appointment next week to set up for my first tattoo
On July 08 2013 00:57 Knalldi wrote: Edit: I think OP forgot Implants, yet another absolutely not good looking thing :D
You're completely right; updated the OP.
A common argument, also posted here of course is 'Your tattoos might look fine now, but how will they look in 50 years?' Well, I can't speak for others, but old people are ugly anyway; some ink won't make that worse^^ For example:
On July 08 2013 00:57 Knalldi wrote: Edit: I think OP forgot Implants, yet another absolutely not good looking thing :D
You're completely right; updated the OP.
A common argument, also posted here of course is 'Your tattoos might look fine now, but how will they look in 50 years?' Well, I can't speak for others, but old people are ugly anyway; some ink won't make that worse^^ For example: + Show Spoiler +
yeah, true. the piercings are super-ugly though :D
I'm not into any of that stuff. The standard ear piercing is fine, but anything other than that seems to make the person rather unattractive (plus the obvious disadvantages of things like tongue piercings)
What I find just as ugly as a tattoo is a constant sun tan. Yeah, you might look more brown (even though I'm not into that in the first place), but in 20 years you will have leather skin. Plus the obvious cancer risk of course. Ew.
I read a book a while ago that really got me thinking about the whole tattoo thing - essentially, the main character had several tattoos - one for each major accomplishment in his life. I'm thinking about something along those lines. I don't really look like a body adornment-kind of guy and my parents will probably "go through the roof" the next time I meet them, but I really like the idea, and I think tattoos - if done right, can look really great. No matter what I decide to base it on though, I'm probably getting a tattoo next month. Nothing extreme, though - I've seen some crazy ones and I'm not there yet.
All in small dozes can be ok. A tattoo on your shoulder, or a piercing in your ear, can be nice (thinking of getting a tattoo myself, just can't figure out what to get or where to place it). But covering your entire body in tribunal patterns or your entire face with hundreds of rings is butt ugly (not to mention potentially dangerous. I can imagine it must hurt falling on your face when its covered in metal).
Dermal implanting and Scarification looks retarded to me, but maybe thats just because I've never seen it before.
No idea if pictures are allowed so I'm not going to risk it and ask you to google full body Japanese tattoos. That is far more awesome than a single tribal on your shoulder or half a sleeve on one arm imo. If you it, do it right.
On July 08 2013 02:24 fartosis77 wrote: No idea if pictures are allowed so I'm not going to risk it and ask you to google full body Japanese tattoos. That is far more awesome than a single tribal on your shoulder or half a sleeve on one arm imo. If you it, do it right.
Sorry. Not impressed. Looks dumb to me.
edit: of course pictures are allowed. Just don't spam Memes or nsfw piccy's and you'll be alright
On July 08 2013 02:24 fartosis77 wrote: No idea if pictures are allowed so I'm not going to risk it and ask you to google full body Japanese tattoos. That is far more awesome than a single tribal on your shoulder or half a sleeve on one arm imo. If you it, do it right.
How does the oxygen absorption through the skin work when the whole body is painted? Anyone knows how much % you can tattoo until it becomes dangerous? As far as I know you die when the body cannot absorb oxygen through your skin anymore...
Personally I'm not one for body art/modifications; I've thought about getting a tattoo and/or piercing my ears, but like you said, I don't really want to if it's just for the sake of having it. On other people I don't care that much, I've got my own particular taste as to what looks weird or good but I won't hate on somebody for having something that I don't like My opinions that nobody will care about: Piercings: + Show Spoiler +
I don't get the point of snake bites, and I've yet to see a nose stud or ring that made anybody look more attractive. I don't get eyebrow piercings, and I can't stand when there's a long row of rings like in the pic in the OP
Tattoos can be pretty cool, and I still give it some thought about getting one. The only tattoos I have issue with are ones of stupid images (naked women, skulls puking beetles, ect) and tattoos on the neck and chest and on the face that take up over half of it are weird.
I've only seen them in person as just plates under the skin so people can have little balls on places like the middle of the chest or stomach or something. Something that bulges out of the skin seems like it'd make me shudder, but until I see one in person I won't know for sure
I'm with everyone else who's cringing at some of these things x.x I can understand tattoos (of meaningful things, hopefully) and piercings in "regular" locations on the body, but everything else just confuses and grosses me out.
Scarification looks better than a tattoo imo but hoollyyy fffuuucccccckkkkkkkk. They basically just carve out your skin slowly with a scalpel. God that looks excruciating.
On July 08 2013 02:24 fartosis77 wrote: No idea if pictures are allowed so I'm not going to risk it and ask you to google full body Japanese tattoos. That is far more awesome than a single tribal on your shoulder or half a sleeve on one arm imo. If you it, do it right.
Sorry. Not impressed. Looks dumb to me.
edit: of course pictures are allowed. Just don't spam Memes or nsfw piccy's and you'll be alright
Funny thing. Perception. I'd find half a sleeve far more dumb as in unfinished and therefore not really a full tattoo of something but I guess people can't just all go tattoo their entire bodies out of the blue either. Body suit pictures tend to get NSFW quite fast when their asscheeks are visible or when they are holding their dick in their hands.
The only body part of my girlfriend that I would allow any modification to is an ear piercing (which she already has), everything else is disgusting and a huge turn off for me.
On July 08 2013 02:24 fartosis77 wrote: No idea if pictures are allowed so I'm not going to risk it and ask you to google full body Japanese tattoos. That is far more awesome than a single tribal on your shoulder or half a sleeve on one arm imo. If you it, do it right.
Sorry. Not impressed. Looks dumb to me.
edit: of course pictures are allowed. Just don't spam Memes or nsfw piccy's and you'll be alright
Funny thing. Perception. I'd find half a sleeve far more dumb as in unfinished and therefore not really a full tattoo of something but I guess people can't just all go tattoo their entire bodies out of the blue either. Body suit pictures tend to get NSFW quite fast when their asscheeks are visible or when they are holding their dick in their hands.
I find half a sleeve dumb as well. Thats already way too much. A zerg tattoo behind your shoulder or (why haven't anyone done this?) a TL horse on your elbow is far nicer. As an added bonus you can cover it up without excessive clothing if you're going to, say, on a job interview.
I think they're generally very unattractive. Tattoos aren't something I find appealing no matter how well they're done, although I could still find a woman with small, unobtrusive tattoos attractive. Piercings are also fairly unappealing to me; I have no problem with ear/navel piercings but anything on elsewhere just puts me off. Scarification is disgusting to me.
I love tattoes and would love get one myself, however I hate anything facial. I get that people wanna stand out, but imo getting tats and piecings on your face is the most un attractive thing I have ever seen.
Other then that I support most body adorments. The scarifications I dunno..it is like borderline masochistic to get skin carved off to form symbols/images..
No goes for tattoos is on female cleveage, the boobarea has to stay natural and pure, ink and implants are just disgusting here. Also nobody should have tattoos in their face looks too tryhard. Piercings are ok is long as they stay decent and arent in the nose, because nosepiercings look ulgy like warts.
I really like the zerg symbol tattoo, mb i ll get one on my shoulder one day :D.
I don't understand people who have a problem with tattoos in 2013. Aslong as it dosen't mean or say anything offensive to you, you shouldn't really care.
Piercing: Very dependent on the person. I dislike it far more often than I like it, but there are certain types where I like it. Still, less is more. And those thick ear tunnels are an abomination.
Tattoos: Love it. If done right. Which is pretty rare. Good tattoos require a good amount of thought, money and artistic skill. If one of these three things is not taken seriously enough, chances are that it's gonna be bad. Again, the average street tattoo is most likely bad. Simple flash ("Pick one of those tattoos from the book, that'll be 80 €"), badly executed (too small, wrong place, awful outlines and coloring..you name it), just following the latest fashion trend. But if you REALLY dig into it you'll find artists of every style who do incredible work. If you're willing to wait a few months and decide to rather have a tattoo than a driver's licence (just monetarily speaking ) you might be fine.
Dermal implanting: Huge turn-off. I wouldn't even want to touch that, to be honest.
Scarification: Don't like it, but I have never seen it in real life so I can't say for sure. The pictures of the procedure are awful.
I'm pretty sure I'll get myself a tattoo some day, but right now there is no real idea of a motive yet. So far I've found about half a dozen tattoo artists who are interesting to me, but I think it's just not the time yet. I'm carrying that topic in my head for about 2 years now and I'm still getting nowhere with the question of what exactly I want to have tattooed. Choosing a motive is damn hard for me. And until that changes, I'll wait
My opinion on tattoos: they are like stickers. you dont put stickers on a ferrari. the sticker may look good, but it wont make the ferrari prettier. unless you only have an opel...
Piercings are okay, in moderation. You shouldn't be bedazzling your entire face though. It actually makes you look weak or desperate for attention.
Same with facial tattoos. Unless you're in prison or a tattoo artist and have no intention of gettting a job again, don't do it.
Tattoos, in general, can be amazing everywhere else. It all depends on the artist. There's some artists that put most illustrators and graphic designers to shame, like these guys.
On July 08 2013 03:30 graNite wrote: My opinion on tattoos: they are like stickers. you dont put stickers on a ferrari. the sticker may look good, but it wont make the ferrari prettier. unless you only have an opel...
On July 08 2013 03:30 graNite wrote: My opinion on tattoos: they are like stickers. you dont put stickers on a ferrari. the sticker may look good, but it wont make the ferrari prettier. unless you only have an opel...
well, this car has stickers because of sponsors. but i like the idea of using logos as a tattoo motive ( i know, many people dislike that ) like a air jordan logo for a basketball player. or a TL logo
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
On July 08 2013 03:57 farvacola wrote: I used to have 3 rings and an industrial. Then one day, I looked in the mirror and said, "we'll that's enough of this.", and took 'em all out
I had ear rings and and a tongue ring. Same. One day you realize you just don't need them.
On July 08 2013 02:24 fartosis77 wrote: No idea if pictures are allowed so I'm not going to risk it and ask you to google full body Japanese tattoos. That is far more awesome than a single tribal on your shoulder or half a sleeve on one arm imo. If you it, do it right.
Sorry. Not impressed. Looks dumb to me.
edit: of course pictures are allowed. Just don't spam Memes or nsfw piccy's and you'll be alright
Funny thing. Perception. I'd find half a sleeve far more dumb as in unfinished and therefore not really a full tattoo of something but I guess people can't just all go tattoo their entire bodies out of the blue either. Body suit pictures tend to get NSFW quite fast when their asscheeks are visible or when they are holding their dick in their hands.
I find half a sleeve dumb as well. Thats already way too much. A zerg tattoo behind your shoulder or (why haven't anyone done this?) a TL horse on your elbow is far nicer. As an added bonus you can cover it up without excessive clothing if you're going to, say, on a job interview.
My problem with "body adornments", particularly tattoos, is that some of them, when they aren't thought through, don't carry gracefully into old age. For instance I like the Protoss logo, but I don't feel the need to have it etched into my body, especially since sometime in 10-20 years, it'll be irrelevant. And some might argue that it's an artifact from the past, but at that point it'll just look goofy. Not to mention that you'll likely have to continue the maintenance on a tattoo which represents something which you may not be interested in anymore...
That said, you do what you want with your body. Except big "plugs" in your ears... those things are incredibly repulsive. Don't stretch your earlobes, please.
Note: I have a keyring protoss logo thing, I feel like it's sufficient.
On July 08 2013 01:01 micronesia wrote: My opinion:
Piercing: Okay if the standard ear piercing, otherwise no way Tatoos: Only if you are a pre-industrialization sailor Other: Ew, no
I agree with this pretty much.
I'll be honest, I think some piercings are really sexy, (a small nose piercing, maybe a hip bar or a cartilage piercing) but some really push it. Things like clit piercings, sternum piercings, nipple piercings, etc. I don't think either way, but some things like eye lid piercings and stuff, too far.
EDIT: I mean piercings on girls, I'm not a big fan of piercings on guys, I feel like they just don't look that great on guys, call me old fashioned if you will .
Tattoos I'm not big on. They look awful, they are permanent in most cases (even with tattoo removal surgery) and in my opinion are rarely attractive/artsy. I know a lot of girls who think they are really sexy on guys, but imo, if you aren't an aspiring/successful artist or a sports star, don't get one. On subject, don't be that guy with a white tattoo, white tattoos may look a lot better than normal tattoos (imo) but honestly it's not worth it unless you are willing to live with a horribly deformed tattoo in your later life as your skin stretches.
Gauging I see on some people, but I just think it looks fucking awful, that hole looks TERRIBLE the bigger it gets.:r.
The rest of them. Just eww. Scarifications are disgusting. They just look awful. That's the best thing I can think of them, they look like you ripped your body out. The below-the-skin style body adornments could hardly be called adornments considering they look like enormous cysts that have formed into slightly recognizable shapes; also good luck if you get into a car accident and they shred your muscles when they break.
Piercing: They can look both epic and tragic. I'm thinking of getting a pair of earrings with a chain arounf 5 cm each, which will have the Midgard Serpent at the end.
Tattoos. Tattoos are like journals of your life. Personally, i want a tattoo for each great achivement in my life, like becommng a father.
Gauging. Totally impractical in almost any physical activity. For lazy and rich people.
Dermal Implanting. Neat. Would not do it myself, but can see the attraction.
Scarification. I would use them the same way as a tattoo, just telling of a negative story. I will probably get one, if my children dies before me, or similar grueling events.
On July 08 2013 00:29 venomium wrote: A few posts have been made by some TL-ers about their tattoo’s, but I’ve been wondering; what does the general populace here think of body adornment like:
Body piercing, a form of body modification, is the practice of puncturing or cutting a part of the human body, creating an opening in which jewelery may be worn. The word piercing can refer to the act or practice of body piercing, or to an opening in the body created by this act or practice.
Stretching, in the context of body piercing, is the deliberate expansion of a healed piercing for the purpose of wearing certain types of jewelry. Ear piercings are the most commonly stretched piercings, with nasal septum piercings, tongue piercings and lip piercings/lip plates following close[citation needed] behind.
A subdermal implant refers to a kind of body jewelry that is placed underneath the skin, therefore allowing the body to heal over the implant and creating a raised design.
Scarifying (also scarification modification) involves scratching, etching, burning / branding, or superficially cutting designs, pictures, or words into the skin as a permanent body modification.[1] In the process of body scarification, scars are formed by cutting or branding the skin by varying methods. Scarification is sometimes called cicatrization (from the French equivalent).
Do you have body art yourself? Maybe your partner, friends and/ or family, or do you maybe think that your body is your temple and shouldn't be modified?
My personal opinion: I have multiple tattoo's, two of which I'll put in the spoiler below (please do so as well if you want to show off), so yeah, I really like them. However, even though some tattoo's look really nice on girls, I've yet to see a girl who's more beautiful with tattoo's than without. It's hypocritical, I know^^
Piercing and scarring aren't really to my liking... Pierced ears are okay (even though I don't like it that young children get them), but al others... I don't really see the beauty of ramming a metal rod through your flesh.
And I think that, since this is art for your entire life, that it'll have some deeper meaning than 'ohhhh, shiny!'
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
I have three cool birthmarks of moderate size and cunning allocation. Plus a thumb scar after woodchopping accident.
That stuff you're talking about belongs with sailors, criminals and prostitutes, period. Call me oldschool, but 100 years ago, people were sane enough to condemn everyone who willingly hurt himself just to get some moronic ornament on his/her body. And noone seems to tatoo really useful stuff like blood types, lists of allergies, credit card numbers or favourite build orders.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
On July 08 2013 04:34 wingpawn wrote: I have three cool birthmarks of moderate size and cunning allocation. Plus a thumb scar after woodchopping accident.
That stuff you're talking about belongs with sailors, criminals and prostitutes, period. Call me oldschool, but 100 years ago, people were sane enough to condemn everyone who willingly hurt himself just to get some moronic ornament on his/her body. And noone seems to tatoo really useful stuff like blood types, lists of allergies, credit card numbers or favourite build orders.
I don't like any of these body alterations. Some goth girls are pretty cute but even then they would probably be pretty cute without the ridiculous piercings as well (I remember this one girl that had a pretty nice lip piercing but then she decided to get nose rings, etc... so ugly).
I'm fine with most things that doesn't stretch or punch weird holes through your skin. Stretching and dermal implants look absolutely horribly stupid, and I find it hard to respect anyone that makes a hula-hoop of their earlobe. Tattoos can be quite cool, but people tend to pick terrible motives. The 'classical' tattoos look like shit, I don't get why anyone would get them - they hold no meaning to people today unless they're near-ancient sailors or something. Piercings are fine except nose rings, which looks like metallic snot, and the kinds that seem to weigh a pound. That's just impractical.
tatts can be awesome, but unfortunately, most people have awful taste and manage to find terrible artists to bring their shitty ideas to life
On July 08 2013 04:34 wingpawn wrote: I have three cool birthmarks of moderate size and cunning allocation. Plus a thumb scar after woodchopping accident.
That stuff you're talking about belongs with sailors, criminals and prostitutes, period. Call me oldschool, but 100 years ago, people were sane enough to condemn everyone who willingly hurt himself just to get some moronic ornament on his/her body. And noone seems to tatoo really useful stuff like blood types, lists of allergies, credit card numbers or favourite build orders.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Everything besides ear piercings seem a little too extreme for me, probably because they are so accepted in society.
Tattoos seem a little excessive to me too. I feel like people are getting tattoos about every little thing on a whim so easily. I can imagine getting one if you join a gang or something (NOT that I encourage that or think it's okay) but getting something like an SC tattoo from playing the game for a year seems a bit silly to me.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
you could have just said there are a lot of asians on tl dude
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
So you are essentially saying tattoos are in general a mistake, my correlation between stupidity and body art seems to be accurate according to you. I'm not afraid of making mistakes, but I generally avoid them when I can, such as terrible tattoos and a variety of other body art. Now people who do make this mistake in the name of growth, isn't it greater to grow without making the mistake? THINKING BEFORE DOING IT? Avoiding it.
I am really turned off by all kinds of body disfigurement tricks. I just don't get them at all, all of it looks straight up nasty especially on girls. And those faddish earplugs are just the worst lol. Tattoos I kinda like but over 90% of them are ugly or lame. Those few tattoos I see that are masterfully crafted and make some sense I find amazing and it gets me jealous
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
LOL, you got it all wrong dude. A tattoo is not a mistake. Your just being an descriminating bitch.
That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas?
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
LOL, you got it all wrong dude. A tattoo is not a mistake. Your just being an descriminating bitch.
Dude, I have all the respect in the world for good and bad tattoos. But not all tattoos are winners. And some tattoos might reflect the wearer's former state of mind/values, and not reflect the person's current personality. That's what I mean by 'mistake'.
I'm one of those guys that doesn't equate 'mistake' with 'bad' or 'stupid'. I didn't mean to imply that making mistake has a negative connotation, and was arguing the opposite.I think making mistakes is a healthy thing and leads to a more skills, more competence, a better life and coincidentally, better tattoos.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
LOL, you got it all wrong dude. A tattoo is not a mistake. Your just being an descriminating bitch.
...he's not arguing that tattoos are inherently a mistake, he's arguing that people who get tattoo's have different ideas as to what constitutes a mistake in the first place.
On July 08 2013 05:36 cloneThorN wrote: LOL, you got it all wrong dude. A tattoo is not a mistake. Your just being an descriminating bitch.
I think you should re-read his post, he isn't calling it a mistake per definition, just that some people might regret some (ugly) tattoo's later in life. And please mind your manners, no need for namecalling I think^^
On July 08 2013 05:11 K3Nyy wrote: but getting something like an SC tattoo from playing the game for a year seems a bit silly to me.
A year? Starcraft was released in 1998 (march 31, remember the anniversary?:D ) so it's been a part (sometimes small, sometimes large) in people's lives. - And for me personally, next the game being part for over half of my life, the zerg race stands for 'purity of mind', this is one tattoo in a (currently) trifecta of tattoos spanning events in my life, so I really like that explanation behind the tattoo, and those are my two reasons for having it Maybe silly, but important to me^^
On July 08 2013 04:34 wingpawn wrote: That stuff you're talking about belongs with sailors, criminals and prostitutes, period. Call me oldschool, but 100 years ago, people were sane enough to condemn everyone who willingly hurt himself just to get some moronic ornament on his/her body. And noone seems to tatoo really useful stuff like blood types, lists of allergies, credit card numbers or favourite build orders.
Joking aside, piercings and tattoo's have been in mankind's culture since the beginning of written accounts.
On July 08 2013 04:33 Shai wrote: Is that first tattoo of yours Chris Lightfellow from Suikoden III?
Nope^^ It's a Valkyrie (can't remember the artist, sorry)
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
you are right.
im studying engineering and its hard to find someone with a tattoo.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
you could have just said there are a lot of asians on tl dude
Some of the most baller tattoos I've seen are on young Asian dudes! LOL.
Edit: wait a minute all those guys work out. Maybe they're training for MMA or something.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
LOL, you got it all wrong dude. A tattoo is not a mistake. Your just being an descriminating bitch.
...he's not arguing that tattoos are inherently a mistake, he's arguing that people who get tattoo's have different ideas as to what constitutes a mistake in the first place.
Knock it off, farva. I thought I said I didn't want to "think" for the remainder of the week.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
LOL, you got it all wrong dude. A tattoo is not a mistake. Your just being an descriminating bitch.
...he's not arguing that tattoos are inherently a mistake, he's arguing that people who get tattoo's have different ideas as to what constitutes a mistake in the first place.
Knock it off, farva. I thought I said I didn't want to "think" for the remainder of the week.
Well then clearly you need to get a tattoo that says "No Pienso" on your forehead.
I've seen good looking tattoos but I've seen bad ones.
My girlfriend has 2 tattoos she made in her teens, she regrets them now, The husband of her sister (who is admittedly quite dumb) made a tattoo for his deceased mother... but with a grammatical mistake in it. I think nobody told him but it's a running joke ><
Scarification is too much wtf and will probably look horrible once healed. Derm implants looks stupid. Piercings are okay as long as you don't hang 1pound of steel on your face... it becomes stupid at that point.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
LOL, you got it all wrong dude. A tattoo is not a mistake. Your just being an descriminating bitch.
...he's not arguing that tattoos are inherently a mistake, he's arguing that people who get tattoo's have different ideas as to what constitutes a mistake in the first place.
Thank you for being able to explain what I'm saying better than I can.
On July 08 2013 02:24 fartosis77 wrote: No idea if pictures are allowed so I'm not going to risk it and ask you to google full body Japanese tattoos. That is far more awesome than a single tribal on your shoulder or half a sleeve on one arm imo. If you it, do it right.
Sorry. Not impressed. Looks dumb to me.
edit: of course pictures are allowed. Just don't spam Memes or nsfw piccy's and you'll be alright
Funny thing. Perception. I'd find half a sleeve far more dumb as in unfinished and therefore not really a full tattoo of something but I guess people can't just all go tattoo their entire bodies out of the blue either. Body suit pictures tend to get NSFW quite fast when their asscheeks are visible or when they are holding their dick in their hands.
I find half a sleeve dumb as well. Thats already way too much. A zerg tattoo behind your shoulder or (why haven't anyone done this?) a TL horse on your elbow is far nicer. As an added bonus you can cover it up without excessive clothing if you're going to, say, on a job interview.
My problem with "body adornments", particularly tattoos, is that some of them, when they aren't thought through, don't carry gracefully into old age. For instance I like the Protoss logo, but I don't feel the need to have it etched into my body, especially since sometime in 10-20 years, it'll be irrelevant. And some might argue that it's an artifact from the past, but at that point it'll just look goofy. Not to mention that you'll likely have to continue the maintenance on a tattoo which represents something which you may not be interested in anymore...
That said, you do what you want with your body. Except big "plugs" in your ears... those things are incredibly repulsive. Don't stretch your earlobes, please.
Note: I have a keyring protoss logo thing, I feel like it's sufficient.
Whats why you tattoo something that is important to you. Like someone mentioned, you preserve a state of mind or time onto your body. If I was a progamer right now, I wouldn't have any trouble etching a protoss tattoo on my shoulder. Sure, people may think it looks goofy, but I don't care about those people. I'm a nerd, and I'm proud of it. and most likely I'll only be showing the tattoo to people who are like minded. I wont stop being a nerd in 20 years, and if I do, it will still have been a huge part of my life. So it doesn't matter. (not to mention a 100% who haven't played starcraft wont know what the protoss tattoo is, and will think its cool because it actually looks cool, and not for what it represent).
That said, I wouldn't get one on my forehead, no. You will still be interacting with people every day, and I don't want the first thought people have of me to be "what an idiot". Having tattoos that can't be covered up isn't the smartest thing to do imo.
On July 08 2013 06:07 DrThorMD wrote: I would never do any of those things to myself. I cringe whenever I think about tattoos or piercings and I'm not squeamish at all.
Do you cringe at looks of it, or the idea that it would hurt getting one?
I think tattoos are fine if they are not obnoxiously gross, gang related or overdone (ie too many). I know some people that have tattoos and wear certain things or take their shirt off just to show it off, and I think they are idiots.
Piercings are for girls, and outside of the ear it can get to be a little too much. Girls with a little eyebrow or belly button piercing looks ok. I dont really like when parents get their babies/toddlers ears pierced. Personally Im waiting till my daughter is old enough to decide if she wants them or not.
Also: I really dislike block of text tattoos. They're not aesthetically pleasing nor are they ever deep, no matter how much you love a long-winded quote from a Chuck Palahniuk book. Utilize your skin more effectively please.
On July 08 2013 06:10 DyEnasTy wrote: I think tattoos are fine if they are not obnoxiously gross, gang related or overdone (ie too many). I know some people that have tattoos and wear certain things or take their shirt off just to show it off, and I think they are idiots.
Piercings are for girls, and outside of the ear it can get to be a little too much. Girls with a little eyebrow or belly button piercing looks ok. I dont really like when parents get their babies/toddlers ears pierced. Personally Im waiting till my daughter is old enough to decide if she wants them or not.
Everything else... ew.
Should be rules against this, and honestly I think there are in Norway, as I've never seen it happen here before. But I have seen children at a waaay too young age get pierced. Honestly, if you're still in kindergarten, the chances of getting an infection are astronomical. Don't be a retard parent, and wait until the children are smart enough to understand the word "consequence".
This kind of thing is not for me. If I have any holes, scars, permanent marks or other signs of mutilation on myself, the last explanation I want for them is "I did it myself" or "I paid someone to do this to me". I can store all my important memories and approximations of my favourite sayings in my brain. It's a far more sophisticated organ than my skin with much more storage capacity. As for mnemonic devices that are reflections of my personality, they can be collected around me, rather than on me. Those are my thoughts. Nothing against those of you who have "body art" or whatever the fuck you call it.
On July 08 2013 01:41 Big-t wrote: I have one problem with tattoos: You should be VERY careful what you tattoo.
The worst thing would be some teeny-dream-stuff like some cool signs / mottos, because I doubt that things you found so tough and cool will be seen the same way when you are 50 or older. (Example: My cousin tattooed Thor´s hammer on his chest, I really really doubt that he will like it forever)
Oh and by the way, the argument "look my skin looks better with tattoos" is always countered by " how your tattoo looks when you get older".(skin folds)
Most people that are really, really into tattoos don't worry about making a decision they will be in love with forever.
They get tattoos because they appreciate the artform, think it's fun, and want to permanently document a moment or person or state of mind in their minds.
To people that don't understand tattoos, let me put in a way you might understand: Instead of thinking of your body as a sacred canvas or temple which anything less than a masterpiece would ruin; think of your body as a diary or journal that is the culmination of your life. There will be rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry in it, but some people have no problem sharing that with other people.
Still find it lame as f--- in nearly all cases, there seems to be a correlation between stupidity and body "art", because it's always the stupid person I know who goes and gets a some lame piercings and tattoos. And I dont buy the diary body thing, with the "rough patches and mistakes and bad poetry" I don't give a shit if they no problem sharing it, I don't care for it. It's also a very attention whorish thing if you think about it.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but yours is wrong, ignorant and, to the great irony of your post, stupid.
Stupidity is not being able to explain why it is wrong, ignorant and stupid, have a look in the mirror.
Honestly, I forgot most of the people on this board are into engineering or computer science. And some people that pursue these fields can't seem to fathom the idea of possibly making a mistake, especially a permanent one on their body. They are so afraid of failure and have such a strong sense if entitlement, they actively avoid situations where they might look bad, or look for situations where they can blame other factors for their lack of success.
Some people can't understand that some people don't care if they make mistakes, and if anything believe its a necessary part of growth.
TLDR; just because you're too chicken shit to get a tattoo doesn't mean people with tattoos are automatically stupid. They just care less about fucking up.
So you are essentially saying tattoos are in general a mistake, my correlation between stupidity and body art seems to be accurate according to you. I'm not afraid of making mistakes, but I generally avoid them when I can, such as terrible tattoos and a variety of other body art. Now people who do make this mistake in the name of growth, isn't it greater to grow without making the mistake? THINKING BEFORE DOING IT? Avoiding it.
There are some fields -- like the arts, sports or performance of any kind -- where the only way to learn is by doing it, over and over again.
This is probably why tattoos are more common in these social circles and considered par for course.
There's unfortunately a lot of discrimination in society against tattoos. It's one of the last remaining taboos of western society. People make all sorts of wild claims about tattoos, eg that you'll grow out of the tattoo as you get older or it will make your skin dry in old age or you won't be able to get a job (which is a self-fulfilling prophesy as the same people as employers deliberately don't hire people with tattoos). It's as much jealousy as anything. Some people just don't have strong enough beliefs or the ability to make a decision to commit themselves to an expressive design that will be there for their whole lives and they resent those who do. I am not saying all people are like this, but it does seem to be quite a widespread problem.
On July 08 2013 06:27 BillyGee wrote: Some people just don't have strong enough beliefs or the ability to make a decision to commit themselves to an expressive design that will be there for their whole lives and they resent those who do.
Do you think this is the main/only reason why people don't get tattoos? What you are describing is true for some people, I'm sure, but you make it sound like it's the reason why most people don't get tattoos, which certainly isn't true.
On July 08 2013 06:10 DyEnasTy wrote: I think tattoos are fine if they are not obnoxiously gross, gang related or overdone (ie too many). I know some people that have tattoos and wear certain things or take their shirt off just to show it off, and I think they are idiots.
Piercings are for girls, and outside of the ear it can get to be a little too much. Girls with a little eyebrow or belly button piercing looks ok. I dont really like when parents get their babies/toddlers ears pierced. Personally Im waiting till my daughter is old enough to decide if she wants them or not.
Everything else... ew.
Should be rules against this, and honestly I think there are in Norway, as I've never seen it happen here before. But I have seen children at a waaay too young age get pierced. Honestly, if you're still in kindergarten, the chances of getting an infection are astronomical. Don't be a retard parent, and wait until the children are smart enough to understand the word "consequence".
Latin America: The ears are pierced in the first week after birth.
Can't understand people that think they need to show off their uniqueness via such a mainstream thing, and can't understand the people that think they need to show off their uniqueness by doing the more extreme things.
And I laugh at the really horrible ones, like spelling errors in your 'deep' message.
Calling a tatoo the reflection of a current situation / state of mind this is going to change (not even "likely to change" it WILL change, life is change by definition) a mistake is a narrowminded view of a tatoo imho.
A tatoo is something more than pure esthetics. If it was only about esthetics, I'd get a T-Shirt, not a tatoo. I have parts of me on my skin, some of them that don't represent the current me, and that probably won't represent it anymore, but it is still something very valuable to me.
Also I work in IT, please stop with IT / geeks caricature. I tend to see a lot of people having an image of the average TLer and having a hard time imagining that the scope of people posting here is much broader than that even if we share the same passion and often the same hobbies / field of work.
On July 08 2013 06:27 BillyGee wrote: There's unfortunately a lot of discrimination in society against tattoos. It's one of the last remaining taboos of western society. People make all sorts of wild claims about tattoos, eg that you'll grow out of the tattoo as you get older or it will make your skin dry in old age or you won't be able to get a job (which is a self-fulfilling prophesy as the same people as employers deliberately don't hire people with tattoos). It's as much jealousy as anything. Some people just don't have strong enough beliefs or the ability to make a decision to commit themselves to an expressive design that will be there for their whole lives and they resent those who do. I am not saying all people are like this, but it does seem to be quite a widespread problem.
You make it sound like "not having strong beliefs" is somehow a weakness of some sort.
Also the idea that you won't be able to get a job if you get tattoos is not a "self fulfilling prophecy", it's just a fact that employers will discriminate. It's not necessarily right but there are stereotypes which aren't necessarily always entirely wrong. I know for a fact that a lot of people* with tattoos have something to prove to other and themselves.
*: Not everyone, and not even the majority, but it's still a thing.
That said, "Only fools and dead men don't change their minds." My beliefs can stay in my mind where they can change and adapt, rather than on my body where they're static and get damaged.
I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote: I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
True, but tattoos have become associated with stupidity, or at least I believe so.
On July 08 2013 06:07 DrThorMD wrote: I would never do any of those things to myself. I cringe whenever I think about tattoos or piercings and I'm not squeamish at all.
Do you cringe at looks of it, or the idea that it would hurt getting one?
I wasn't saying everyone without a tattoo is jealous just some. Notice that as women have become more empowered in recent years (rightly so) they have started tattooing themselves more, something I would hope would be encouraged really. If I was an employer and someone sat down in front of me covered in tattoos I wouldn't discriminate against them in fact I would think hey this looks like someone with a strong mind who is willing to undergo commitment and to express themselves.
I think tattoos are awesome. That being said, a lot of people get boring/unoriginal/bad quality tattoos. Something like barbed wire around the bicep or a tattoo in an eastern language is just dumb (unless you have an honest attachment to that culture).
One of the coolest/best done tattoo's I've seen: + Show Spoiler +
I guess I approve piercings and tattoo's in moderation, but sadly alot of people are overdoing it, getting huge tattoo's all over their body for no apparent reason. Worse is silly one-liners in chinese/latin that are supposed to mean something and be deep - and having sleeves made with absolutely no sense of artistry other than having a colored arm, either the overall quality/imagery is lacking or the initial plan was only 1 tattoo that evolved into getting the entire sleeve, leaving it with 2-4 very different tattoo's that don't really work together.
BUT it's people's own choice, so I don't see a reason to get offended by it all (I may smirk at some ).
Huge turnoff for me. I tend to stare at people's piercings if they have it in their face and I can't help it, so that is a little extra obnoxious to me.
Whatever floats other people's boat tho. Personally, I wouldn't do anything like that.
The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can withstand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports.
I dont any of the in the op mentioned methods of body decoration. It's more not liking them then anything else. Other people of course, should do whatever they want in that regard.
I do, however, think that people getting a tattoo at a place like their face, should be doing some thinking on the implications on their lives apart from the physical side. I estimate that there are more people disliking visible tattoos then people liking visible tattoos. As long as people generally estimate the same, people with visible tattoos will continue to be one step behind when in the race for (for example) a public function. This is not really discrimination (oh, how i hate that word), but looking through a lot of factors coming in when evaluating a person, one of which being public image.
But like billygee suggested, i guess i'm just jealous. LOL
The point of view expressed in this topic are to me reactionary coming from a community of people as diverse and educated (as proven in other topics) as Team Liquid. Not everyone having a tatoo is an attention whore with daddy-issues. Let me give you a simple analogy:
Imagine if every star craft / Dota / E-sports fan was described as a fat lonesome nerd who doesn't bathe regularly. Would you appreciate it? Would you consider a fair representation of the wonderful people that make your community? Still, would you deny that these people exist? And as an E-sport fan wouldn't you have a critic view of these people?
I'm not asking you guys to like bodmods (hell, i'm tatooed and i don't like some of them), I would like you guys to consider bod mods using the same analogy. Not everyone is an attention whore, not everyone is out of a job, not everyone regrets later. Just as there are passionate people that derivate a strong meaning from this passion that is e-sports, the same can be applied to bodmods, and to everything else (that ranges to music, and as proven lately to ponies )
I think remembering those simple things would go a long way.
Or you could keep on focusing on the bad exemples, the stupid people that even ourselves dislike (Do you think the barbwire on pamela' Anderson arm is a model for me? Do you think this person is a role model for me?), and put everyone in the same basket.
Honestly, you guys can do better than that, we all can, we all should.
Wingpawn, you keep calling tattooed people stupid, and calling 'us' names.
People have already listed reasons and you just choose to ignore those comments, while filling in the reasons YOU think people have for taking them and calling those stupid. That's not discussing, that's not 'rationally' stating your opinion; that's the logic of an eight year old.
I'm not showing others I can withstand pain, hell, I kept clenching and sweating and sometimes almost screamed like a little girl. Their aesthetic appeal not greater than the appeal of a human skin? That's a personal opinion, I think I look a lot better with my tattoos. And social defiance? Hah, not in the slightest; all my tattoos are covered up on my (actually rationality-requiring) job.
The only thing you're right about is that there's no rational reason to put ink in your body, it's al emotional, it's all a matter of perspective. It's fine if you don't share that perspective, or even disapprove of it, but you don't have to be insulting.
Edit: well, that came out rather harsh...
Anyway, I do agree that tattoo's should be covered up during professional hours. I joined a Facebook page 'Tattoo acceptance in the workplace' and while I'm glad to see people posting that they got a job even though they got hand and/ or face- tattoo's, it's exactly that; 'even though'.
To be honest, I wouldn't hire a person with visible tattoo's, or even visible piercings, dermals or those stretched earlobes. We have a level of professionalism in almost every job and I want my personnal to be able to understand social protocol and consequences.
On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote: That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas?
You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name.
On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote: The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports.
Tattoos and piercings and other body modifications almost never have anything to do with how much they hurt to get. It usually doesn't hurt that bad anyway. Have you ever even talked to someone with a tattoo?
On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote: That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas?
You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name.
That's the problem. We really don't have any common interests at all.
On July 08 2013 07:09 venomium wrote: Wingpawn, you keep calling tattooed people stupid, and calling 'us' names.
People have already listed reasons and you just choose to ignore those comments, while filling in the reasons YOU think people have for taking them and calling those stupid. That's not discussing, that's not 'rationally' stating your opinion; that's the logic of an eight year old.
I'm not showing others I can withstand pain, hell, I kept clenching and sweating and sometimes almost screamed like a little girl. Their aesthetic appeal not greater than the appeal of a human skin? That's a personal opinion, I think I look a lot better with my tattoos. And social defiance? Hah, not in the slightest; all my tattoos are covered up on my (actually rationality-requiring) job.
The only thing you're right about is that there's no rational reason to put ink in your body, it's al emotional, it's all a matter of perspective. It's fine if you don't share that perspective, or even disapprove of it, but you don't have to be insulting.
I'm sure the aesthetic appeal thing is backed up statistically. Everyone would be tatted as fuck if they looked better with tattoos. They simply don't. I'm reminded of this sexy girl I knew who became disgusting as she became more tattooed. They weren't even bad tattoos up close, just the farther you got away from her, the more she looked like a scumbag.
On July 08 2013 07:09 venomium wrote: Wingpawn, you keep calling tattooed people stupid, and calling 'us' names.
People have already listed reasons and you just choose to ignore those comments, while filling in the reasons YOU think people have for taking them and calling those stupid. That's not discussing, that's not 'rationally' stating your opinion; that's the logic of an eight year old.
I'm not showing others I can withstand pain, hell, I kept clenching and sweating and sometimes almost screamed like a little girl. Their aesthetic appeal not greater than the appeal of a human skin? That's a personal opinion, I think I look a lot better with my tattoos. And social defiance? Hah, not in the slightest; all my tattoos are covered up on my (actually rationality-requiring) job.
The only thing you're right about is that there's no rational reason to put ink in your body, it's al emotional, it's all a matter of perspective. It's fine if you don't share that perspective, or even disapprove of it, but you don't have to be insulting.
I'm sure the aesthetic appeal thing is backed up statistically. Everyone would be tatted as fuck if they looked better with tattoos. They simply don't. I'm reminded of this sexy girl I knew who became disgusting as she became more tattooed. They weren't even bad tattoos up close, just the farther you got away from her, the more she looked like a scumbag.
1/ You are using disgusting words to describe a human being. 2/ Those words you say are purely subjective.
On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote: The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports.
Tattoos and piercings and other body modifications almost never have anything to do with how much they hurt to get. It usually doesn't hurt that bad anyway. Have you ever even talked to someone with a tattoo?
On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote: That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas?
You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name.
That's the problem. We really don't have any common interests at all.
Then, why the fuck would you want to get matching tattoos? Wait... you both sound interested in tattoos... Maybe you can get a tattoo of your brother getting a tattoo of you getting a tattoo. Tattooception.
On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote: The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports.
Radical idea here: We aren't rational creatures. There's not a rational reason for makeup to exist. There's not a rational reason for video games to exist. There's not a rational reason to get on top of a motorcycle and ride down a race track at 200mph. There's not a rational reason to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. There's not a rational reason to drop out of school to go into competitive underwater basket weaving. There's not a rational reason to drop out of College to go play DotA 2.
Our existence transcends doing what is the most rational course of action. Our existence is defined by our self expression, that's what separates us truly from other creatures in the animal kingdom I feel most notably. And a lot of the times, that self expressions is incredibly irrational.
On July 08 2013 07:09 venomium wrote: Wingpawn, you keep calling tattooed people stupid, and calling 'us' names.
People have already listed reasons and you just choose to ignore those comments, while filling in the reasons YOU think people have for taking them and calling those stupid. That's not discussing, that's not 'rationally' stating your opinion; that's the logic of an eight year old.
I'm not showing others I can withstand pain, hell, I kept clenching and sweating and sometimes almost screamed like a little girl. Their aesthetic appeal not greater than the appeal of a human skin? That's a personal opinion, I think I look a lot better with my tattoos. And social defiance? Hah, not in the slightest; all my tattoos are covered up on my (actually rationality-requiring) job.
The only thing you're right about is that there's no rational reason to put ink in your body, it's al emotional, it's all a matter of perspective. It's fine if you don't share that perspective, or even disapprove of it, but you don't have to be insulting.
I'm sure the aesthetic appeal thing is backed up statistically. Everyone would be tatted as fuck if they looked better with tattoos. They simply don't. I'm reminded of this sexy girl I knew who became disgusting as she became more tattooed. They weren't even bad tattoos up close, just the farther you got away from her, the more she looked like a scumbag.
Sick anecdote bro.
I guess because you saw one chick who got really shitty tattoo's or because you personally are turned off by tattoo's, no one in the entire world could be attracted to classy and professional tattoo's.
@ZachAttack If you're looking for ideas for a tatoo, in my humble opionion you are not ready for your tatoo. I firmly believe that a tatoo is the epitome of the personal decision. It should be something that has deep meaning to you. It is something you should build in your mind before building on your body.
On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote: The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports.
Tattoos and piercings and other body modifications almost never have anything to do with how much they hurt to get. It usually doesn't hurt that bad anyway. Have you ever even talked to someone with a tattoo?
On July 08 2013 07:09 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote: That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas?
You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name.
That's the problem. We really don't have any common interests at all.
Then, why the fuck would you want to get matching tattoos? Wait... you both sound interested in tattoos... Maybe you can get a tattoo of your brother getting a tattoo of you getting a tattoo. Tattooception.
Perfect. I'm going to choose between that and we each get each others face life size on our faces.
On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote: The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports.
Tattoos and piercings and other body modifications almost never have anything to do with how much they hurt to get. It usually doesn't hurt that bad anyway. Have you ever even talked to someone with a tattoo?
On July 08 2013 07:09 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote: That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas?
You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name.
That's the problem. We really don't have any common interests at all.
Then, why the fuck would you want to get matching tattoos? Wait... you both sound interested in tattoos... Maybe you can get a tattoo of your brother getting a tattoo of you getting a tattoo. Tattooception.
Perfect. I'm going to choose between that and we each get each others face life size on our faces.
That's what I'm talkin' 'bout. Now you're thinking like a twin.
On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote: I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art.
On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote: I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art.
There's already the tattoo thread for that. This is also a thread where the OP was asking specifically for TL's views on all of the adornments, not only tattoos. When you ask for a discussion, you get a discussion.
I don't understand why people do all the stuff they do just to change the way they look. They don't have anytign morei nteresting to do? And in my opinion, that applies to the "normal" mainstream stuff as well - I just cannot comprehend what makes people invest hours of time into their looks. I haven't been to a hairdresser since I left my parents (15 years), I just left my wife cut it quickly when it grows long enough so that my head is uncomfortably warm. I haven't shaved for years, I just cut it with scissors when it starts to annoy me. The whole idea of investing more time and money into the looks of some parts of my body repels me. And yet some people are willing to experience pain for aesthetic reasons? I just don't get it. At all.
On July 08 2013 06:47 BillyGee wrote: I wasn't saying everyone without a tattoo is jealous just some. Notice that as women have become more empowered in recent years (rightly so) they have started tattooing themselves more, something I would hope would be encouraged really. If I was an employer and someone sat down in front of me covered in tattoos I wouldn't discriminate against them in fact I would think hey this looks like someone with a strong mind who is willing to undergo commitment and to express themselves.
What is this strong mind having to do with it ?
When TV shows you a lot of good looking people with cool looking tattoos and that it is the thing cool kids do... I don't see how it's strong minded to get one. That's such a stupid statement I can't even...
Not saying everyone who does it do it on pressure, but saying it shows willpower... wtf are you talking about.
If you get one for a strong reason there's merit in that, but that's it.
On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote: I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art.
There's already the tattoo thread for that. This is also a thread where the OP was asking specifically for TL's views on all of the adornments, not only tattoos. When you ask for a discussion, you get a discussion.
Don't hold back though, I'll edit the OP with any TL-bodymod posted; the tattoo threads are barely filled and rather small. (And be honest, people like showing off)
But yeah, I get why people don't like bodymods, but some people seem to outright hate them, I don't get that...
I don't get the hate either. Also some views in this thread are downright archaic. Seeing someone with bodmods reduced as someone necessarily: - stupid / needing to show of - prove something / going through pain for no necessary reason / superficial and nothing more than that is simply mind numbing. This makes me a sad panda.
Piercing: I think facial piercings (lip, nose, ear) are tight, but 1 piercing per feature is enough.
Tattoo: Tattoos aren't for me, and I'm not typically interested in girls with a lot of tattoos. One or two is fine, I suppose, but I'd never ever get one. When I consider all of the quotes and lyrics and whatnot that I thought were cool just a year ago I end up thinking that my past self was a fucking tool LOL.
The Ear Stretching Stuffs: I'm actually cool with this, I think it's fairly badass, and it makes women look kinda sexy.
Piercings: Some I think are ugly as hell (in a sexual attraction standpoint), but most are usually fine. Would never get one though. Tattoos: Again, mostly fine. Small/medium tattoos are usually pretty cool imo. Not a fan of big tattoos on the chest or back really. Other: Fucking horridly stupid looking. I would never flame someone for having them, I just think they look incredibly stupid aesthetically and would pretty well never date someone with them.
On July 08 2013 07:51 opisska wrote: I don't understand why people do all the stuff they do just to change the way they look. They don't have anytign morei nteresting to do? And in my opinion, that applies to the "normal" mainstream stuff as well - I just cannot comprehend what makes people invest hours of time into their looks. I haven't been to a hairdresser since I left my parents (15 years), I just left my wife cut it quickly when it grows long enough so that my head is uncomfortably warm. I haven't shaved for years, I just cut it with scissors when it starts to annoy me. The whole idea of investing more time and money into the looks of some parts of my body repels me. And yet some people are willing to experience pain for aesthetic reasons? I just don't get it. At all.
If you were to go apply for a job, would you not dress up, get a clean haircut, and shave/trim your beard? If you can understand the need to do it for a job, it isn't much of a stretch to understand why people do it all the time. I dress well, go to a hairdresser, and trim my facial hair semi-daily because I like having the image of someone who takes care of himself.
As for tattoos, I don't think I could ever make the decision to have it permanently on my body. I wish there was some kind of tattoo that would last in high quality for 2-3 years, so I could re-evaluate having one after a while. I think if done well, tattoos will increase attractiveness, although at the expense of some professionalism, which is why it's smart to get the tattoo somewhere easy to cover up in a professional setting. I'm surprised by how much tattoo hate there is in this thread, but I guess this isn't really the target audience.
I have no problem with tattoos, though personally I doubt I would ever feel the need to get one. As a man who always managed to do profoundly short-sighted, impulsive things throughout his youth, I am thankful that I wasn't born 10 years later or I would undoubtedly have some terrible tattoos carried with me into adulthood.
I think that to make assumptions about people who have tattoos is stupid, as is the person with the tattoo of his favourite brand of whiskey on his neck's indignation towards others making assumptions about him... So I find it hard to have a black and white opinion about it one way or the other. A tattoo, like most things in life, can be quite nice if done tastefully. Also, like most things in life, it rarely is.
When people have this argument, it is inevitably the tattoo's fan who praises the personal meaning and symbolism of such a permanent marking upon a person's body. And that is true for some tattoos, though it would be a very small percentage. To talk about the tattoo as a heightened form of expression is to talk about proportionally few tattoos. To call the majority of tattoos anything more than the pursuance of a fad would be spitting on the wonderful tramp stamps and stars-on-elbows that people wear so proudly! It is less common for someone to get a tattoo to mark something meaningful than it is for someone to seek out something quasi-meaningful as an excuse to have a tattoo.
So maybe those who wish to proclaim the greatness of their own tattoos can forgive others their well-earned scepticism.
A tattoo can be great. So can a pop-song. But most of what we are exposed to everyday in pop music is awful. It is derivative, meaningless, and forgettable. And pop music requires no advanced state of understanding to comprehend. Tattoos have become pop music. But that doesn't mean a pop song can't still be beautiful.
On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote: I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art.
The issue I have with this, is that many dont want to have to look at your self expression. Tasteful tattoos are fine, but covering yourself so you can be "unique" and "different" scream "look at me and my artful expressions".
I'm not a fan of stretching/gauging or implants at all. Implants have got to be the nastiest things; it's like cysts on your body; why would anyone want that? Also not a fan of piercings on faces; One exception might be if its around the eyebrows or jawline.
I think scarification is cool but it's hard to do well and I think it's rather dangerous.
Scarification picture posted by venomium(OP) seems to be a fresh one. I don't think there's any validity to showing fresh ones because the scar tissue hasn't formed, and hence it won't look at all like that.
If you want a tattoo make sure it's easily covered. 100% guarantee you'll regret it later if you don't.
Also, people with a lot of tattoos often make the assumption that they look cool, and that other people think they look cool too. I could care less about the former, but the latter? Dead wrong dudes. Unless you're trying to be some kind of rebel against society. Then that's just you.
Body modification is one of the worlds oldest art forms. The first tattoos, and scarification are over 5500 years old. Every culture in history has modified their bodies. A few things the OP left out, are Body Building, Extreme fitness, Tanning, Hair styles, and Cosmetic surgery (Rhinoplasty, Breast Augmentation etc), all of those are very popular forms of body adornment that are the exact same thing as what they have listed.
Something I have found a little odd is how negative reactions are. Someone else having a tattoo doesn't effect you, or change how they act, or think, and most importantly, they don't care what you think, or what you would have or wouldn't have done.
It's ok to not like something, it's not ok to be a dick.
I'm personally not a fan of tattoos or piercings (besides the ear). Same goes for pretty much all body adornments. I generally don't find them aesthetically pleasing. Just my own opinion. To each his own in that regard. I've never found a girl more attractive after seeing her with a tattoo, but I have found them less (physically) attractive in some cases. While I've seen some (very few, though) tattoos that I think are kind of artistic, I've always thought that the art would look just as well on paper, canvas, or other more traditional drawing media.
As for the "tattoo typecasting" discussion, I've got a few things to add:
1) As someone who doesn't have a tattoo, I find some of the labels that some people are trying to put on me pretty offensive. The facts that I'm going to graduate school in a math-related field and that I don't have a tattoo doesn't make me "terrified of making mistakes" and neither does it make any of my classmates as such. Nor does it mean I "don't have strong beliefs" or that I don't have a tattoo because I'm too "chicken shit" to get one.
This is especially ironic because the quoted statements above were responses to people criticizing the decision to get tattoos. Attempting to legitimize your choice to get body adornments to people who chose not to get them by insulting them for not making the same choice (to get said adornments) is probably as counterproductive as it sounds. Insulting them will just reinforce their beliefs.
2) My take on the discussion as a whole: I view tattoos (and body adornments in general) like I view other controllable physical traits like being overweight (in most cases), having good hygiene, etc.. In my experience (which doesn't necessarily generalize to everyone's), people with tattoos are more likely to be short-sighted, impulsive, and egocentric. Just like people who are overweight are more likely to be lazy. However, more likely doesn't equal always true. I know some very hardworking people who are overweight and are simply unlucky with genes, environment, etc. I also know many people with tattoos who break the stereotype I mentioned above.
So what does this mean when I meet someone with a tattoo? It's one negative component of a first impression made up of many factors. In other words, it's a negative when I have nothing else to judge from, but it also doesn't mean anything whatsoever after I get to know the person.
The most notable thing I saw was someone has a gauged ballsack. Looked like 1/4 inch hole or something. The whole site is the embodiment of body art gone too far.
The most notable thing I saw was someone has a gauged ballsack. Looked like 1/4 inch hole or something. The whole site is the embodiment of body art gone too far.
Iestyn is really in to Sacred Geometry and this piece is a play on the flower of life.
Davinci was a big fan of it as well (He didn't cut it in to his face though haha)
I'll probably get a lot of shit for this viewpoint but it wasn't my original viewpoint, it is something that has been realized to me in the past year or so.
#1 People these days are always quick to call someone judgmental or be like "Hey man, it's just his thing. Let him do his thing." When someone disagrees with what people or a person do/does. When in reality this isn't the case. People are getting wackier and wackier with "their things" and it's not because they are expressing themselves or whatever you need to call it for it to be 'accepted' by [some part of] society.
So I used to be of this line of thought as well, and didn't judge people by their appearance or whatever. Which is great under normal circumstances 'in a vacuum' to be fair to everyone before you know them, but again this isn't the case.
Disregarding all the superficial arguments about it being trendy, or its not even unique to have a tattoo anymore, or it's a waste of money, dangers of disease or body rejecting, etc.
A lot of people doing all these body mods and tats are really just people acting out (technically acting in). It's sort of different for males and females as to what the reasons are, but the core issues are still the same; they come from traumatic pasts or have had trauma in their formative years. These aggressive piercings and full sleeves and body tats are just another cry for help or self treating with a pain therapy. (which is why I always see people on fb posting stuff like 'I NEED TO GET ANOTHER TAT' or 'LOVE THAT PAIN OF TATTOOS') It's akin to people who self cut to regulate emotions because of severe trauma as a child.
Now don't get me wrong, there is a wide spectrum of body modding and some people just get a tat or maybe a few which is probably ok. This would be like the guy who drinks often but does not have the addiction gene/disease and isn't an alcoholic. That doesn't make it any better for you or less dangerous though.
The bottom line is that It's sort of an aggressive nonverbal communication. "You have to look at my tats. If you don't like it, fuck you." If you go up to anyone with a tat and even neutrally ask them about why they have tats or they don't look good or whatever you almost instantly get a confrontation. When if they were open minded they should say the same thing that people who defend tats always say; "Hey man, it's just your thing to not like tats."
Btw, don't get me wrong. I don't automatically pass a judgement on an individual for having tats as being someone with issues, a bad person, or whatever negative connotation you could apply. I have lots of friends with lots of tats and piercings and even friends that do tats (which actually further this theory). However, it does tell me something about that person intrinsically which they will have to overcome or prove otherwise upon further discovery of that person. Sort of like how trust and respect have to be earned, only they start with a small deficit to begin with.
PS- Unless you are going to discuss these points or argue unbiased and objectively, I'm not going to respond.
PPS- To me it makes no difference if a girl has or doesn't have tats or other body mods as far as her sex appeal. It's sort of irrelevant/meaningless. Although a girl with a shit ton of body mod is definitely a turn off if it ruins her natural beauty and appearance. It's more like a novel thing that I would want to experience but get over, you know like a girl who has naturally big/long nipples or something. OT- + Show Spoiler +
Lance: Hey, whattya think about Trudi? She ain't got a boyfriend. You wanna hang out, get high?
Vincent: Which one's Trudi? The one with all the shit in her face?
On July 08 2013 13:21 MarlieChurphy wrote: (which is why I always see people on fb posting stuff like 'I NEED TO GET ANOTHER TAT' or 'LOVE THAT PAIN OF TATTOOS')
Sounds like you just have a poor choice of friends on Facebook.
"You have to look at my tats. If you don't like it, fuck you."
So you don't know anyone with tattoos, and just watch television?
If you go up to anyone with a tat and even neutrally ask them about why they have tats or they don't look good or whatever you almost instantly get a confrontation.
You pretty much just said... Anytime I walk up to a complete stranger, and ask them personal questions, and then insult them... You get confrontation.
Although a girl with a shit ton of body mod is definitely a turn off if it ruins her natural beauty and appearance. It's more like a novel thing that I would want to experience but get over, you know like a girl who has naturally big/long nipples or something.
I'm glad you have a bucket list of certain types of girls you want to objectify, use for sex, and then "get over".
And thank you for warning that you won't respond to replies like this, I don't want to hear anything else you have to say on a subject, you obviously know nothing about.
To clarify: I never implied tatooed people are stupid. They just prefer to act stupid on this particular issue, which, as I remarked, ain't that much significant anyway. If they really don't have better place to put their money and time into - fair enough.
A lot of people doing all these body mods and tats are really just people acting out (technically acting in). It's sort of different for males and females as to what the reasons are, but the core issues are still the same; they come from traumatic pasts or have had trauma in their formative years. These aggressive piercings and full sleeves and body tats are just another cry for help or self treating with a pain therapy. (which is why I always see people on fb posting stuff like 'I NEED TO GET ANOTHER TAT' or 'LOVE THAT PAIN OF TATTOOS') It's akin to people who self cut to regulate emotions because of severe trauma as a child.
I won't lie, these persons exists. And as a tatooed guy / someone that lives frequently in these circles and stuff. Boy are they annoying, and dude, we dislike them just as much as you do, even more because as a tatooed guy as I get assimilated to these persons . But it is very narrowminded to reduce bodmod population to this. A lot of my friends are tatooed a few of them own tatoo parlors, and have a lot of ink on their bodies. I'm actually hosting a friend of mine that has his whole body covered for the week-end, he is sleeping in my guest-room as I'm typing this, and works full-time as a tatoo artist. None of my tatoos can be seen when i'm clothed. Still I myself sport a lot of ink. Why can't they be seen? Because it is a personal decision, something intimate, and that i only share with the closest of my friends and people that can see me naked. They have a deep meaning to me, and showing them to people is the same as showing myself naked to people. These tatoos are the testimony of a past life a used to live and are the story of the things that made me who I am today, and hence I feel that sharing them to the world is something I wouldn't want to do.
You'll notice that this is quite the opposite view from the one you're getting. Once again, the stupid attention-whore with daddy issue exist. But please, do not put everyone in the same basket. It's like saying that everyone that enjoys a drink is a stupid Frat-bro-alpha-male-do-you-even-lift-type, or that every e-sport enthousiast is a fat geek with a neckbeard that doesn't shower and can't talk to women. There is a population for which body modifications his a passion with a deep personal meaning, and the fact that it has been used by other people as a trend / a means of showing of in the last few decades shouldn't make you forget about the history of some things that have been going on for THOUSANDS of year (as some other poster has said).
The bottom line is that It's sort of an aggressive nonverbal communication. "You have to look at my tats. If you don't like it, fuck you." If you go up to anyone with a tat and even neutrally ask them about why they have tats or they don't look good or whatever you almost instantly get a confrontation. When if they were open minded they should say the same thing that people who defend tats always say; "Hey man, it's just your thing to not like tats."
Something that bothers me here is that you assimilate every tatooed person with this agressive communication. Once again it would be lying to say these people don't exist, people showing of with their tatoos, covering their lack of substance with some drawing on their body, using this as a clutch to sustain their shallow existence. But they were doing the same thing with fancy clothes and jewelery, with luxury cars before. You shouldn't feel agression by seeing a tatoo, most of the time if you see it, it's not because people want to show it, it's just that it happens to be there. Period. You'll understand that we can't spend our times hiding our bodies (even more so with the summer heat coming in). But the fact that it can be seen doesn't necessarily scream LOOK AT ME, once again, not with all people, and the fact that you consider all visible tatoos like this is a skewed approach on things. If anything, i'd rather have my tatoos not seen, if only to not suffer for that view you have on things (which is sad in the grand look of things)
Btw, don't get me wrong. I don't automatically pass a judgement on an individual for having tats as being someone with issues, a bad person, or whatever negative connotation you could apply. I have lots of friends with lots of tats and piercings and even friends that do tats (which actually further this theory). However, it does tell me something about that person intrinsically which they will have to overcome or prove otherwise upon further discovery of that person. Sort of like how trust and respect have to be earned, only they start with a small deficit to begin with.
What if all these things that bodmods tell you about people intrinsically were wrong? If you allow me saying "I don't automatically pass judgement but it does tell me some things about people" is contradictory to me.
PS- Unless you are going to discuss these points or argue unbiased and objectively, I'm not going to respond.
I hope I did, and if it was the case, thanks for taking the time to read me.
On July 08 2013 14:38 wingpawn wrote: To clarify: I never implied tatooed people are stupid. They just prefer to act stupid on this particular issue, which, as I remarked, ain't that much significant anyway. If they really don't have better place to put their money and time into - fair enough.
We understand that you don't like tatoo, and for you they are a waste of money, time and life. But they are valuable to us, more so than most of the things you value yourself perhaps. You could quote some of the things you spend money on and I could argue "hey I'd rather spend money on tatoos than on this". This is once again totally subjective sir.
Kissing and geting BJ from a girl with pierced tongue was a very good and fun experience.Other than that i am like most people here tatoos generaly ok, piercing ok if done with moderation. Scaryfication-hell no.
1. Piercing: The only thing I've ever wanted to pierce are my ears. 2. Tattoos: I'm a very indecisive person and I would have to think really hard about getting one but to be honest I think a paintless body suits me better. 3. Stretching/Gouging: Doesn't appeal me. 4. Dermal Implanting: Just why? I think this looks uncomfortable as fuck but whatever to each his own. 5. Scarification: I personally feel like this is some kind of fake art. I can't really explain it but that's just how I feel about it.
On July 08 2013 17:37 Silvanel wrote: Kissing and geting BJ from a girl with pierced tongue was a very good and fun experience.Other than that i am like most people here tatoos generaly ok, piercing ok if done with moderation. Scaryfication-hell no.
Eh didn't like it too much tbh, metal on dick felt weird. Looks kinda trashy too, not sure why.
Stretching and dermal implanting makes me cringe more than scarification.
I wonder what kind of mental state a person should be in to do that to himself and what causes that state. Childhood trauma? Or is it just the ultimate form of attention whoring? Maybe he just loves the way it looks so much that he has to do it? Wtf.
Anyway im having a hard time convincing myself that someone who is "normal" (for lack of better word) would do this to himself.
i didn't expect the subject not being touched yet on such a vast comunity like TL! I have the inner side of my left upper arm tattooed and my front right thigh tattooed. even if i usually wear t-shirts 24/7, i don't think that more than 30 people that i know are aware of the first one, and i had it for 3 years. i got them done for myself, not for them being shown to random ones. Had earrings for a couple of years, then moved to a 1 cm gauge with one of the holes, got bored in half a year. now you barely notice the cut. Finally, both nipple pierced. it's been 3 years since i got them done, haven't had the slightest regret up to now, i'll take them down then i'll get bored of them too.
I never had any problem with the idea of changing your body. i can accept most of the things i see done, even if i wouldn't have them on my skin - whether it be because i don't like them, because it's too painful, etc.
On July 08 2013 17:43 killy666 wrote: A lot of people are talking in very derogative terms of female persons with body modifications. I was expecting better from the community.
I don't think it is being done except in the "this is what I look for in a partner" sense and the vast majority of posters are heterosexual males.
At least I didn't see any "if she has a tattoo, she's a slut, but if he has a tattoo, he's a cool guy" posts or anything ridiculous like that.
I prefer battle scars myself. You know getting in street fights, skate boarding accidents, sports accidents etc.
You know marks on your body you can actually be proud of, because you got them doing something passionate.
The whole concept of altering your body for some kind of identity to show the world, is a bit to shallow in my opinion.
Scars tell a story. Paint jobs or piercings are kinda forced, and usually lead to people misunderstanding what you're about. Or maybe it's a mask or something.
I have a scar very close to my left eye for example. Looks badass, in my opinion.
Too bad so many people are so ignorant and offensive to people with tat's in here. I myself don't have any, but that's because of the fact that i think to myself i'd need a good reason (big thing in my life) which means a lot to me and dedicate a tat to that. But wtf how can people call other people stupid for having tattoos or generalizing in any way What the f. Then say see you are stupid cause u react like a kid. Stop the fkin abusive kid comments allready hahaha. By the way OP your first tat is AMAZING dude!
Strangely i'm not against the idea of scarification. It's a permanent tattoo that hurts more and that's all. Maybe i'm masochistic but the harder something is the more rewarding it is. If one day I visit one of these tribes that practice scarification, I will try to make them do one to me.
Piercing and stretching and dermal implanting seem weirder to me. You had something exterior to yourself and rly change ur body. I'm okay with earrings but not rly with other things.
I'm not a huge fan of tattoos generally, but there are cases where it can be done well (like those tastefully located and in memory of a loved one/major event/etc).
The thing that makes no sense to me, and I've heard a number of responses that make equally little sense, are those who say they want a tattoo, but don't know what they want or why they want it. There are certainly cases of "I want a tattoo to commemorate <x> but I'm not certain what it's going to be yet," but also a lot of "just doing it because I can/people think it's cool/whatever else."
Perhaps some of you have insights into it. It just strikes me odd that a (semi) permanent modification often is entered into lightly and without any real justification.
On July 08 2013 20:16 KingAce wrote: I prefer battle scars myself. You know getting in street fights, skate boarding accidents, sports accidents etc.
You know marks on your body you can actually be proud of, because you got them doing something passionate.
The whole concept of altering your body for some kind of identity to show the world, is a bit to shallow in my opinion.
Scars tell a story. Paint jobs or piercings are kinda forced, and usually lead to people misunderstanding what you're about. Or maybe it's a mask or something.
I have a scar very close to my left eye for example. Looks badass, in my opinion.
I can agree with that sentiment, though I've got an old scar from a gunshot wound that I don't particularly like...guess it at least makes for a good story from time to time.
On July 08 2013 17:37 Silvanel wrote: Kissing and geting BJ from a girl with pierced tongue was a very good and fun experience.Other than that i am like most people here tatoos generaly ok, piercing ok if done with moderation. Scaryfication-hell no.
Eh didn't like it too much tbh, metal on dick felt weird. Looks kinda trashy too, not sure why.
Stretching and dermal implanting makes me cringe more than scarification.
Honestly kissing felt kinda weirder, with metal hittting my teeth.
I got a womanizer scar over my left eye from backl when 3 guys tried to rob me :D... Getting one on purpose? Hell no.
Tattoos... I'm totally ok with it, i don't have one myself but thats mostly because i just can't decide on what kind i could/would get. Tribals and most of all SCORPIONS make me actually judge people, it's like a "retard stamp" (+Stars which just shout "fashion victim" at me)... not everyone with one is a retard, but the chances go up the more of these a guy (or girl) has .
Piercing: Guy --> Ears and yeah, thats pretty much it. Girls --> Ears, Nose, Lips (but just ONE and not Nose+Lips+Whatever)... In general i like piercings as long as they are done in moderation...
I find it very strange that the validity of other people's strictly personal choices are apparently up for evaluation in this thread. Some shockingly judgemental people in here.
Personally I am not very interested in any of this, but for the sake of balance I will say that I find women with alot of proper body art VERY appealing for some reason. Some cutesy little tattoo I could take or leave.
On July 08 2013 23:48 Crushinator wrote: I find it very strange that the validity of other people's strictly personal choices are apparently up for evaluation in this thread. Some shockingly judgemental people in here.
Personally I am not very interested in any of this, but for the sake of balance I will say that I find women with alot of proper body art VERY appealing for some reason. Some cutesy little tattoo I could take or leave.
How you present yourself to the outside world is hardly a strictly personal choice, your appearance represents you to the outside world, how you look is all that most of the "outside world" will ever know about you... Calling this a strictly personal choice seems really damn naive to me.
On July 08 2013 23:48 Crushinator wrote: I find it very strange that the validity of other people's strictly personal choices are apparently up for evaluation in this thread. Some shockingly judgemental people in here.
Personally I am not very interested in any of this, but for the sake of balance I will say that I find women with alot of proper body art VERY appealing for some reason. Some cutesy little tattoo I could take or leave.
How you present yourself to the outside world is hardly a strictly personal choice, your appearance represents you to the outside world, how you look is all that most of the "outside world" will ever know about you... Calling this a strictly personal choice seems really damn naive to me.
Wait. You're telling me that how I want to be viewed by others is not my personal choice..?
It was in response to the guy that said he finds it strange that people judge others for tattoos or piercings, scaring, whatever. Sure, it's your personal choice. But it becomes naive when you then complain about other people judging you for these choices.... Same goes for strange or just plain bad hairstyles... You might not care yourself, but then you better also don't care about the opinion of strangers or dimishing job opportunities...
On July 08 2013 20:16 KingAce wrote: I prefer battle scars myself. You know getting in street fights, skate boarding accidents, sports accidents etc.
You know marks on your body you can actually be proud of, because you got them doing something passionate.
The whole concept of altering your body for some kind of identity to show the world, is a bit to shallow in my opinion.
Scars tell a story. Paint jobs or piercings are kinda forced, and usually lead to people misunderstanding what you're about. Or maybe it's a mask or something.
I have a scar very close to my left eye for example. Looks badass, in my opinion.
Tattoo tell a story too, a story of something you may have lived doing something passionate. And scars can lead to misunderstanding too. Once again those are really subjective points. Also please, I'll repeat it in this thread as many times as needed (or not I'll prolly get tired of it before that). Please stop assimilating every tatooed person with insecure attention seeking personalities willing to show off. Body modification before it became a fad was here to tell a story, a personal story, or is something cultural to certain movements / populations. Please stop discarding thousands of years of history for a couple decades of selfie-taking douchebags.
Tattoos tell a story as much as any other scar. And the lack of battle scars doesn't necessarily mean there is a lack of passion in what we do of our lives.
Also I have a scar on my head it looks BADASS. When i was a kid barely walking i pulled a string and something heavy attached to it fell on my head. (I am not in any case mocking you as I believe you raise a valid point in the sense that we should experience more and show less, I just wanted to prove my point about scars while telling a story of stupid kid me!)
On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote: I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
True, but tattoos have become associated with stupidity, or at least I believe so.
In your country it might, but it's not the case for the rest of the world. Also your belief is stereotyping, which is bad.
On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote: I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
True, but tattoos have become associated with stupidity, or at least I believe so.
Where i come from, presenting personal believes as facts is associated with stupidity.
I don't think getting a tattoo is a wise decision, but making a stupid decision does not make you stupid, such as making a good decision does not make you smart.
I don't have any tattoos myself but i don't give two flying fucks about what other people do with their body, as long as it does not affect my life. And honestly i think less of people that does not care about how they dress than people who have tattoos. I think that wearing running shoes at any point in time when you are not running, or wearing a fedora hat, looks more stupid stupid than having two full sleeves tattoos.
As a man with a tattoo, I obviously don't mind that particular activity though I do think you can do yourself a grave disservice by making rash decisions in terms of subject matter/real estate chosen for the piece. Piercing is piercing, and if it floats your boat I say go for it; I am in a similar area for gauging.
Dermal implants, I feel are a bit excessive just based on the techniques used to do them. Not to suggest that all tattoo shops are filthy or all artists poorly equipped to do such a procedure but I think that doing this in a non-medical environment is potentially dangerous. I don't mind how it looks but I think there should be a bit more regulation for health codes and licensing for this stuff. (There may be I am no expert)
Scarring is just a bit beyond me, I don't understand the motivation behind it and I think it is probably the least helpful bit of body art you could get depending on location. You can explain a tattoo or even gauges, but scarring doesn't really say, "employ me," or something like it. To each their own I suppose.
Intentional scaring is super lame. One of the only benefits of "unplanned' scars is the awesome story behind them. "Oh this? Well there I was, pounding Pamela Anderson, when suddenly, a machete-wielding badger flies through the window..." They add a little character, the mark of a good time gone wrong, a unfortunate surgery, or just the mark of a workin' man. Whereas this shit is like, "I'll get my entire face fucked up, and then scoff at people that stare."
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