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On July 08 2013 07:09 venomium wrote:
Wingpawn, you keep calling tattooed people stupid, and calling 'us' names.
People have already listed reasons and you just choose to ignore those comments, while filling in the reasons YOU think people have for taking them and calling those stupid. That's not discussing, that's not 'rationally' stating your opinion; that's the logic of an eight year old.
I'm not showing others I can withstand pain, hell, I kept clenching and sweating and sometimes almost screamed like a little girl.
Their aesthetic appeal not greater than the appeal of a human skin? That's a personal opinion, I think I look a lot better with my tattoos. And social defiance? Hah, not in the slightest; all my tattoos are covered up on my (actually rationality-requiring) job.
The only thing you're right about is that there's no rational reason to put ink in your body, it's al emotional, it's all a matter of perspective. It's fine if you don't share that perspective, or even disapprove of it, but you don't have to be insulting.
I'm sure the aesthetic appeal thing is backed up statistically. Everyone would be tatted as fuck if they looked better with tattoos. They simply don't. I'm reminded of this sexy girl I knew who became disgusting as she became more tattooed. They weren't even bad tattoos up close, just the farther you got away from her, the more she looked like a scumbag.
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On July 08 2013 07:12 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 07:09 venomium wrote:
Wingpawn, you keep calling tattooed people stupid, and calling 'us' names.
People have already listed reasons and you just choose to ignore those comments, while filling in the reasons YOU think people have for taking them and calling those stupid. That's not discussing, that's not 'rationally' stating your opinion; that's the logic of an eight year old.
I'm not showing others I can withstand pain, hell, I kept clenching and sweating and sometimes almost screamed like a little girl.
Their aesthetic appeal not greater than the appeal of a human skin? That's a personal opinion, I think I look a lot better with my tattoos. And social defiance? Hah, not in the slightest; all my tattoos are covered up on my (actually rationality-requiring) job.
The only thing you're right about is that there's no rational reason to put ink in your body, it's al emotional, it's all a matter of perspective. It's fine if you don't share that perspective, or even disapprove of it, but you don't have to be insulting. I'm sure the aesthetic appeal thing is backed up statistically. Everyone would be tatted as fuck if they looked better with tattoos. They simply don't. I'm reminded of this sexy girl I knew who became disgusting as she became more tattooed. They weren't even bad tattoos up close, just the farther you got away from her, the more she looked like a scumbag.
1/ You are using disgusting words to describe a human being. 2/ Those words you say are purely subjective.
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On July 08 2013 07:09 ZackAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote:
The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports. Tattoos and piercings and other body modifications almost never have anything to do with how much they hurt to get. It usually doesn't hurt that bad anyway. Have you ever even talked to someone with a tattoo? Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 07:09 dUTtrOACh wrote:On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote:
That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas? You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name. That's the problem. We really don't have any common interests at all.
Then, why the fuck would you want to get matching tattoos? Wait... you both sound interested in tattoos... Maybe you can get a tattoo of your brother getting a tattoo of you getting a tattoo. Tattooception.
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On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote:
The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports.
Radical idea here: We aren't rational creatures. There's not a rational reason for makeup to exist. There's not a rational reason for video games to exist. There's not a rational reason to get on top of a motorcycle and ride down a race track at 200mph. There's not a rational reason to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. There's not a rational reason to drop out of school to go into competitive underwater basket weaving. There's not a rational reason to drop out of College to go play DotA 2.
Our existence transcends doing what is the most rational course of action. Our existence is defined by our self expression, that's what separates us truly from other creatures in the animal kingdom I feel most notably. And a lot of the times, that self expressions is incredibly irrational.
On July 08 2013 07:12 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 07:09 venomium wrote:
Wingpawn, you keep calling tattooed people stupid, and calling 'us' names.
People have already listed reasons and you just choose to ignore those comments, while filling in the reasons YOU think people have for taking them and calling those stupid. That's not discussing, that's not 'rationally' stating your opinion; that's the logic of an eight year old.
I'm not showing others I can withstand pain, hell, I kept clenching and sweating and sometimes almost screamed like a little girl.
Their aesthetic appeal not greater than the appeal of a human skin? That's a personal opinion, I think I look a lot better with my tattoos. And social defiance? Hah, not in the slightest; all my tattoos are covered up on my (actually rationality-requiring) job.
The only thing you're right about is that there's no rational reason to put ink in your body, it's al emotional, it's all a matter of perspective. It's fine if you don't share that perspective, or even disapprove of it, but you don't have to be insulting. I'm sure the aesthetic appeal thing is backed up statistically. Everyone would be tatted as fuck if they looked better with tattoos. They simply don't. I'm reminded of this sexy girl I knew who became disgusting as she became more tattooed. They weren't even bad tattoos up close, just the farther you got away from her, the more she looked like a scumbag.
Sick anecdote bro.
I guess because you saw one chick who got really shitty tattoo's or because you personally are turned off by tattoo's, no one in the entire world could be attracted to classy and professional tattoo's.
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On July 08 2013 04:50 GettingIt wrote:This is the only tattoo I would ever get: http://9gag.com/gag/7053713For those that don't know, increasing the size of his fist like that is one of his special abilities.
Pretty much the coolest tattoo ever, but I guess you need a really skilled tattooer.
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@ZachAttack If you're looking for ideas for a tatoo, in my humble opionion you are not ready for your tatoo. I firmly believe that a tatoo is the epitome of the personal decision. It should be something that has deep meaning to you. It is something you should build in your mind before building on your body.
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On July 08 2013 07:13 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 07:09 ZackAttack wrote:On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote:
The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports. Tattoos and piercings and other body modifications almost never have anything to do with how much they hurt to get. It usually doesn't hurt that bad anyway. Have you ever even talked to someone with a tattoo? On July 08 2013 07:09 dUTtrOACh wrote:On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote:
That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas? You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name. That's the problem. We really don't have any common interests at all. Then, why the fuck would you want to get matching tattoos? Wait... you both sound interested in tattoos... Maybe you can get a tattoo of your brother getting a tattoo of you getting a tattoo. Tattooception.
Perfect. I'm going to choose between that and we each get each others face life size on our faces.
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On July 08 2013 07:25 ZackAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 07:13 dUTtrOACh wrote:On July 08 2013 07:09 ZackAttack wrote:On July 08 2013 07:00 wingpawn wrote:
The hate for tatoos comes from the fact that they are essentially nothing but a way of showing other people that tatooed person can whistand pain pointlessly inflicted on himself - and that is just stupid. Tatoos/piercings etc. have no rational reason to exist and their aesthetic appeal is by no means greater than the appeal of normal human skin. They're all either a social defiance noone gives much shit about anyway or a weird way to boost one's self-esteem. Harmless stupidity but still, a stupidity, especially considering there are more reasonable ways to prove one's endurance to pain - such as sports. Tattoos and piercings and other body modifications almost never have anything to do with how much they hurt to get. It usually doesn't hurt that bad anyway. Have you ever even talked to someone with a tattoo? On July 08 2013 07:09 dUTtrOACh wrote:On July 08 2013 05:45 ZackAttack wrote:
That zerg tattoo. I've always wanted a tattoo but I can never choose. I have a twin brother and we are thinking about getting matching tattoos but we don't know what to get. Any ideas? You both have the same mother, same father, same grandparents. Assuming you guys have one or two life-long interests in common it shouldn't be that hard to come up with something. There's always the fact that you both have matching tattoos already. By that, I mean your last names. You're stuck with those unless you get them legally changed, which by the way, is an insult to your family name. That's the problem. We really don't have any common interests at all. Then, why the fuck would you want to get matching tattoos? Wait... you both sound interested in tattoos... Maybe you can get a tattoo of your brother getting a tattoo of you getting a tattoo. Tattooception. Perfect. I'm going to choose between that and we each get each others face life size on our faces.
That's what I'm talkin' 'bout. Now you're thinking like a twin.
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On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote:
I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos.
Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art.
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I like girls with belly button piercings and ear piercings. That's about it though.
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On July 08 2013 07:42 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote:
I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos. Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art.
There's already the tattoo thread for that. This is also a thread where the OP was asking specifically for TL's views on all of the adornments, not only tattoos. When you ask for a discussion, you get a discussion.
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I don't understand why people do all the stuff they do just to change the way they look. They don't have anytign morei nteresting to do? And in my opinion, that applies to the "normal" mainstream stuff as well - I just cannot comprehend what makes people invest hours of time into their looks. I haven't been to a hairdresser since I left my parents (15 years), I just left my wife cut it quickly when it grows long enough so that my head is uncomfortably warm. I haven't shaved for years, I just cut it with scissors when it starts to annoy me. The whole idea of investing more time and money into the looks of some parts of my body repels me. And yet some people are willing to experience pain for aesthetic reasons? I just don't get it. At all.
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On July 08 2013 06:47 BillyGee wrote:
I wasn't saying everyone without a tattoo is jealous just some. Notice that as women have become more empowered in recent years (rightly so) they have started tattooing themselves more, something I would hope would be encouraged really. If I was an employer and someone sat down in front of me covered in tattoos I wouldn't discriminate against them in fact I would think hey this looks like someone with a strong mind who is willing to undergo commitment and to express themselves.
What is this strong mind having to do with it ?
When TV shows you a lot of good looking people with cool looking tattoos and that it is the thing cool kids do... I don't see how it's strong minded to get one. That's such a stupid statement I can't even...
Not saying everyone who does it do it on pressure, but saying it shows willpower... wtf are you talking about.
If you get one for a strong reason there's merit in that, but that's it.
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Tattoos are not my style but yours are very well done, they guy/girl who did that has some skill
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On July 08 2013 07:46 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2013 07:42 Defacer wrote:On July 08 2013 06:41 ZackAttack wrote:
I'm really surprised by all the hate for tattoos in this thread. I agree that the vast amount of tattoos people get are really dumb, but it's because a dumb person gets a dumb tattoo, not because only dumb people get tattoos. Same. I honestly thought I would open this thread and see a bunch of pics of cool tatts. I would have never guessed I would have to defend the merits of a tattoo as a means of self-expression or art. There's already the tattoo thread for that. This is also a thread where the OP was asking specifically for TL's views on all of the adornments, not only tattoos. When you ask for a discussion, you get a discussion.
Don't hold back though, I'll edit the OP with any TL-bodymod posted; the tattoo threads are barely filled and rather small. (And be honest, people like showing off)
But yeah, I get why people don't like bodymods, but some people seem to outright hate them, I don't get that...
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I don't get the hate either. Also some views in this thread are downright archaic. Seeing someone with bodmods reduced as someone necessarily: - stupid / needing to show of - prove something / going through pain for no necessary reason / superficial and nothing more than that is simply mind numbing.
This makes me a sad panda.
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Piercing: I think facial piercings (lip, nose, ear) are tight, but 1 piercing per feature is enough.
Tattoo: Tattoos aren't for me, and I'm not typically interested in girls with a lot of tattoos. One or two is fine, I suppose, but I'd never ever get one. When I consider all of the quotes and lyrics and whatnot that I thought were cool just a year ago I end up thinking that my past self was a fucking tool LOL.
The Ear Stretching Stuffs: I'm actually cool with this, I think it's fairly badass, and it makes women look kinda sexy.
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Piercings: Some I think are ugly as hell (in a sexual attraction standpoint), but most are usually fine. Would never get one though.
Tattoos: Again, mostly fine. Small/medium tattoos are usually pretty cool imo. Not a fan of big tattoos on the chest or back really.
Other: Fucking horridly stupid looking. I would never flame someone for having them, I just think they look incredibly stupid aesthetically and would pretty well never date someone with them.
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On July 08 2013 07:51 opisska wrote:
I don't understand why people do all the stuff they do just to change the way they look. They don't have anytign morei nteresting to do? And in my opinion, that applies to the "normal" mainstream stuff as well - I just cannot comprehend what makes people invest hours of time into their looks. I haven't been to a hairdresser since I left my parents (15 years), I just left my wife cut it quickly when it grows long enough so that my head is uncomfortably warm. I haven't shaved for years, I just cut it with scissors when it starts to annoy me. The whole idea of investing more time and money into the looks of some parts of my body repels me. And yet some people are willing to experience pain for aesthetic reasons? I just don't get it. At all.
If you were to go apply for a job, would you not dress up, get a clean haircut, and shave/trim your beard? If you can understand the need to do it for a job, it isn't much of a stretch to understand why people do it all the time. I dress well, go to a hairdresser, and trim my facial hair semi-daily because I like having the image of someone who takes care of himself.
As for tattoos, I don't think I could ever make the decision to have it permanently on my body. I wish there was some kind of tattoo that would last in high quality for 2-3 years, so I could re-evaluate having one after a while. I think if done well, tattoos will increase attractiveness, although at the expense of some professionalism, which is why it's smart to get the tattoo somewhere easy to cover up in a professional setting. I'm surprised by how much tattoo hate there is in this thread, but I guess this isn't really the target audience.
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