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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22085 Posts
January 16 2019 20:19 GMT
#9241
They tried and failed because no one wants to be in charge of Brexit because there is no acceptable solution.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 16 2019 20:23 GMT
#9242
On January 17 2019 05:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the UK government literally can't/won't function because the Government in power doesn't like the opposition enough to vote a no confidence of their current leader?

Pretty much. They don’t want to approve of the current Brexit Plan, but also don’t want to trigger a general election because they might lose. The master plan seems to be to wait until the wheels come off and then blame someone.

It is sort of impressive how badly this is going. Because no one really knows exactly what hard Brexit will look like, the lack of context doesn’t fill the public with the concern it should. And when it comes and it isn’t the stock market crash right before the Great Depression, people jump to say that pro-EU folks were being hysterical about Brexit. A slow, rotting economy due to government incompetence and inaction is the part of the Great Depression people forget about. That after the crash it took more than a decade to get the economy moving again.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 16 2019 20:26 GMT
#9243


Seems like the speech had some impact
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 16 2019 21:14 GMT
#9244
Theresa May making a statement outside downing street at 10pm, nobody knows what for. Resigning? Going back to Brussels? NOTHING HAS CHANGED?
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
January 16 2019 21:18 GMT
#9245
at 10pm? It has to be a resignation, right? I can't see her announcing anything else this late.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9769 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 21:20:34
January 16 2019 21:19 GMT
#9246
She needs to resign and let someone with an idea take over.

frankly so does Corbyn.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 16 2019 21:22 GMT
#9247
She might have a moment of clarity and resign, therefore forcing a her party to do something beyond heckle and wait for the house to burn down.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43565 Posts
January 16 2019 21:33 GMT
#9248
Best case scenario is she cancels Article 50 and then resigns.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 16 2019 21:41 GMT
#9249
If only.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 16 2019 21:44 GMT
#9250
Apparently its just to "calm" the nation and perhaps attack Jeremy Corbyn for refusing to talk to her over brexit.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 16 2019 21:52 GMT
#9251
Why would he need to talk to her over Brexit, isn't her party the one in charge of negotiations?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9769 Posts
January 16 2019 21:54 GMT
#9252
On January 17 2019 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Why would he need to talk to her over Brexit, isn't her party the one in charge of negotiations?


Because the country needs to find a constructive way through some very difficult negotiations, and if Corbyn refuses to play a part in that while voting against anything that is put to Parliament, he is equally as responsible for the failure as May is.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22085 Posts
January 16 2019 21:56 GMT
#9253
On January 17 2019 06:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Why would he need to talk to her over Brexit, isn't her party the one in charge of negotiations?
Because he hasn't come with any alternatives of his own. Its the wonderfull game of
"This isn't good enough"
"What would you do?"
"Not a clue but I'm going to keep saying whatever you do is wrong ".

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 16 2019 21:57 GMT
#9254
Didn't he say he supported a 2nd referendum?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9769 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 22:00:01
January 16 2019 21:59 GMT
#9255
On January 17 2019 06:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Didn't he say he supported a 2nd referendum?


No he has consistently refused to support that, but has kept his options open for the future.
He seems oblivious to the fact that the future was about month ago, he's run out of time and still delaying.

edit: for info, I am a Labour voter and a Corbyn supporter, but he has burned almost all of his good will with me over Brexit.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 16 2019 22:00 GMT
#9256
Who knows what Jeremy Corbyn is actually thinking or what his plan is. I thought his plan was just to force a hard brexit and then get into power by letting the Conservatives take the blame, but now it looks like his plan was just to deny the deal so he can call a vote of no confidence and get into power that way. Which obviously didn't work out the way he wanted it to. Then again maybe he just doesn't have a plan at all.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22085 Posts
January 16 2019 22:03 GMT
#9257
On January 17 2019 07:00 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Who knows what Jeremy Corbyn is actually thinking or what his plan is. I thought his plan was just to force a hard brexit and then get into power by letting the Conservatives take the blame, but now it looks like his plan was just to deny the deal so he can call a vote of no confidence and get into power that way. Which obviously didn't work out the way he wanted it to. Then again maybe he just doesn't have a plan at all.
The vote of no confidence is so he can say "I tried to take control and save us from this horrible hard Brexit" during the next election.
It was a publicity stunt. He isn't stupid enough to want power 2 months before a seemingly unavoidable disaster.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 16 2019 22:05 GMT
#9258
Yeah this is just a rally speech.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
January 16 2019 22:06 GMT
#9259
wtf, I stayed up for that?
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
January 16 2019 22:16 GMT
#9260
On January 17 2019 07:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yeah this is just a rally speech.

Its all she does tbh.

This lady ain't for turning yadadaysa etc etc
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
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