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sc-darkness
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
In other news looks like next PM might be narrowing between Javid and Gove. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9769 Posts
I wonder what's going to happen now. Some are insisting that he'll be forgotten soon but I think its all going to kick off before long. The knives are out, apparently. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44761056 Brexit Secretary David Davis has resigned from the UK government. His resignation comes days after Theresa May secured the cabinet's backing for her Brexit plan despite claims from Brexiteers that it was too "soft". Mr Davis was appointed Brexit secretary in 2016 and was responsible for negotiating the UK withdrawal from the EU. A Brexiteer hailed his resignation as a "principled and brave decision". Conservative MP Peter Bone said Mr Davis had "done the right thing", adding: "The PM's proposals for a Brexit in name only are not acceptable." Labour Party chairman Ian Lavery said: "This is absolute chaos and Theresa May has no authority left." | ||
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Zaros
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Silvanel
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On July 09 2018 16:54 Silvanel wrote: It looks like May really wants a deal with EU and is willing to make concessions in order to get it. Which isnt that strange, when negotiating with stronger partner You are kinda expected to make some concession. While the other camp is either not realistic with their expectations (overvaluing UK negotiating position) or they want to achive "Hard Brexit" by asking for things which they know Eu wont give them and then pin the failure on May/EU. That's not quite fair EU would probably accept brexiteer terms of a Canada style deal but it's the compromises half in half out that they reject, and that's exactly what TM is proposing, sounds coming from EU are already negative. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4742 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On July 09 2018 18:47 Silvanel wrote: Thats seems wrong, where do You get idea EU will accept Canada style deal for UK? I know that is the wet dream of some brexiters but Canadas an UKs situation are very different. Their respective negotating situation are not similiar at all. Not to mention CETA do not cover financial services which UK cares great deal about. Brexiteer position is for Canada and if eu don't accept then no deal WTO terms. Dominic Raab is new brexit secretary so looks like no one else is going to walk. Big promotion for Raab and he is a Gove/Davis ally | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4742 Posts
Raab was in "leave" camp so what does it mean? May is softening up or Raab changing his postion a bit?? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9769 Posts
On July 09 2018 18:59 Silvanel wrote: I guess it just boils down to fact wheter or not one belives hard brexit will hurt UK or not and how much. I guess some people genuinely belive no deal is better then deal with concessions from UK. Raab was in "leave" camp so what does it mean? May is softening up or Raab changing his postion a bit?? Honestly I think it just means that the infighting is going to carry on indefinitely. | ||
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Gorsameth
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On July 09 2018 18:53 Zaros wrote: Brexiteer position is for Canada and if eu don't accept then no deal WTO terms. Dominic Raab is new brexit secretary so looks like no one else is going to walk. Big promotion for Raab and he is a Gove/Davis ally You can't homogenise what the brexiteers want. Easily 50 MPs in the Tory party want hard no deal Brexit, thus May's political troubles | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On July 09 2018 19:09 Gorsameth wrote: I would assume Raab agrees with the current Cabinet position that they just negotiated. Why on earth would you appoint someone to secure the deal you just agreed on that doesn't agree with the terms of said deal. That would have been a condition of him taking the job. Looks to me now that Gove is running the brexit show in government he has one of his disciples as brexit secretary and Gove is now the only serious senior brexiteer in government but seems like the back benches think he is a sell out. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The worst part about that joke is that it was exactly what I would expect the Democrats to do in the US. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On July 09 2018 20:19 Plansix wrote: Someone was joking that Davis resigning will cause the government to fail, snap elections to take place and Labor to sweep I. For a victory. And then Labor will go through with Brexit anyways and be blamed for the fallout until the heat death of the sun. The worst part about that joke is that it was exactly what I would expect the Democrats to do in the US. Can't really see an election anytime soon, worst case scenario we have a 3 month conservative leadership election with TM care taking. | ||
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Zaros
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kollin
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Zaros
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
 Brexit is clearly not Brexit and now all the high ups in the Conservative party are rebelling so hard it is going to force another election at this rate.....maybe then Boris can pick up the mantle and give it a better go. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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