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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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KwarK
United States42925 Posts
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
On June 30 2016 22:37 Dan HH wrote: It's becoming increasingly clear that Boris never wanted Leave to win, what an absurd circus this whole thing is. Play with fire, get fucked. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On June 30 2016 20:20 Laurens wrote: FTSE 250 (the one that is the more accurate representation of UK economy) is 1300 points below the level it was before the vote. The currency is still down too. And the Brexit hasn't even happened yet. The FTSE droped by less than 10 % ... Just saying, but many crisis lead to a 20 to 40 % drop. It's nothing at all, at least for now. The FTSE could crumble for all that matter, finance is not as important as people think it is. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
Gove stepping forward can only be a good thing. He has a lot of support from Conservative members and kept his head throughout the campaign, being polite and measured. Definitely a better person to lead negotiations than Boris, who has made it pretty clear that he wasn't as confident in Brexit as he made out, and is seen as something like a traitor in London. I hope Gisela Stuart and Kate Hoey will be involved in negotiations too. As far as the negotiation themselves go, the 2 year period puts the UK at a serious disadvantage. There is no hope of negotiating a Canada-style deal in that time. Ideally, a temporary deal would be established so that we don't have a shock in 2 years time when a finalised deal is not ready. I imagine full access to the free market and continuing contributions at the current level for the next 5-10 years. Then we will have more time to work through the minutiae as well as establish trade deals with commonwealth/emergent markets. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6229 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
In GBP terms the FTSE is flat, in foreign currency terms, it's down. ANd it's the foreign currency terms which are more relevant since it's mostly based on foreign currency income. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21768 Posts
On July 01 2016 04:06 Shield wrote: Why isn't Johnson in court? If throwing the whole country into the dark for the sake of becoming PM isn't treason, then I don't know what is. Because it isn't Next question | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
hyperbole does look so stupid sometimes | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9674 Posts
https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/angela-eagle-leadership-website-registered-days-resigned/ Website registration data appears to show that the domain “angela4leader.org” was set up two days before she resigned It also came before Hilary Benn was sacked by Jeremy Corbyn early Sunday morning – the spark that set off a major rebellion in the Labour shadow cabinet. Angela Eagle is expected to announce a run for the leadership of the Labour Party in the coming days. This is the same Angela Eagle who went on the radio 3 days later in tears because she was so upset at having to resign. What a fucking disgrace. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On July 01 2016 04:15 Zealos wrote: hahaha hyperbole does look so stupid sometimes Really? 1. Campaigning for Brexit despite his prime minister. 2. His Brexit campaign wins, which is bad for UK's economy. 3. He backtracks, then he says that you shouldn't rush to leave. 4. He decides not to run for prime minister and conservative's leader. You are either stupid or a leave voter. Or, maybe both. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
On July 01 2016 04:54 Shield wrote: Really? 1. Campaigning for Brexit despite his prime minister. 2. His Brexit campaign wins, which is bad for UK's economy. 3. He backtracks, then he says that you shouldn't rush to leave. 4. He decides not to run for prime minister and conservative's leader. You are either stupid or a leave voter. Or, maybe both. Hope this guy will get banned, as I did for calling someone an 'idiot'. Treason to campaign for a different outcome to the PM when the PM made it clear that the govt. were free to campaign as they wished? You are, dare I say it, an idiot. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
- "The negotiations were very tough and we needed to give up something ... so we will pay to the EU budget and will not have control over immigration ..." - "And what about the access to the EU market?" - "Yes, we successfully negotiated that we can sell our products and services in Andorra, Vatican, Switzerland and Norway!!!!" | ||
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Sermokala
United States13977 Posts
On July 01 2016 04:54 Shield wrote: Really? 1. Campaigning for Brexit despite his prime minister. 2. His Brexit campaign wins, which is bad for UK's economy. 3. He backtracks, then he says that you shouldn't rush to leave. 4. He decides not to run for prime minister and conservative's leader. You are either stupid or a leave voter. Or, maybe both. You are suggesting people get charged for treason because of basic political maneuvering. You're an idoit or you just don't understand a basic concept. Gove is just following in the grand tradition of British opportunism. Qui audet adipiscitur | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:00 bardtown wrote: Hope this guy will get banned, as I did for calling someone an 'idiot'. Treason to campaign for a different outcome to the PM when the PM made it clear that the govt. were free to campaign as they wished? You are, dare I say it, an idiot. No, treason is to risk your country's economy just to become the next PM. Just like what Boris Johnson was trying to do. Don't just tell half of the story. There is nothing wrong in having different views. What's wrong is when you do it for political gains, don't really believe in what you preach (Brexit in Johnson's case), while making your country less than stable. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:10 Sermokala wrote: You are suggesting people get charged for treason because of basic political maneuvering. You're an idoit or you just don't understand a basic concept. Gove is just following in the grand tradition of British opportunism. Qui audet adipiscitur Boris was the Opportunist, Gove was forced into this by a cavalier, lackluster Johnson. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13977 Posts
On July 01 2016 05:12 Zaros wrote: Boris was the Opportunist, Gove was forced into this by a cavalier, lackluster Johnson. Boris was just hedging his bets and didn't think leave would actually win. Gove saw his moment and has now sized it. | ||
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