UK Politics Mega-thread - Page 163

On June 26 2016 05:24 Reaps wrote:
Petition at 2 million now, i'm actually curious if they will risk doing a second referendum.

On June 26 2016 05:24 Reaps wrote:
Petition at 2 million now, i'm actually curious if they will risk doing a second referendum.

On June 26 2016 05:33 Zaros wrote:


2 million signatures signed mostly by people who didn't bother to vote in the first place won't override a referendum where 33+ million votes were cast.

Nicola Sturgeon is to lobby EU member states directly for support in ensuring that Scotland can remain part of the bloc, after Scots voted emphatically against Brexit on Thursday.

The first minister has disclosed that she is to invite all EU diplomats based in Scotland to a summit at her official residence in Edinburgh within the next two weeks in a bid to sidestep the UK government.

After Scotland voted 62% to 38% to stay in the EU, she said she planned to begin immediate discussions with the European commission to “protect Scotland’s relationship with the EU and our place in the single market”.

The first minister made the announcement after an emergency cabinet meeting on Saturday morning. She also said she would establish an advisory body of financial, legal and diplomatic experts who can advise her government on its options for retaining EU membership after Thursday’s UK-wide vote, by 52% to 48%, to leave the EU.

On June 26 2016 02:30 phantomlancer23 wrote:
Is there any serious video that someone can link with arguements for remain?Everything i have seen so far is terror like the armagedon is coming or sentimental bullshits like we are better together, we dont want to be alone and the germans are our friends, we are giving our democracy and we take back cheap phonecalls and cheap airtickets.
I mean a calm video with arguments for remain like this
Brexit: Facts Not Fear

On June 26 2016 06:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Put Miliband back in charge that dunce of a leader?

On June 26 2016 06:13 BronzeKnee wrote:
What monumentally stupid decision for England economically. Is it all going to be worth it to keep immigrants out?



Why not just watch the value of the pound? And look at what the credit rating of England is... because those are objective facts, not just some silly video. Investors think it is a terrible choice clearly.

And already, both have taken a beating.

My dad's company has warehouses in London and ships stuff all over Europe. Now those warehouses have to move to a EU country, and it will cost England jobs. Companies from the US and Canada use the UK as a base (because people speak English) to operate their business across Europe. That is all changing because the very friendly EU trade laws that allow free trade to happen across the EU won't apply to England.

Foreign investment is going to go way down, the UK won't be able to negotiate deals as well as the EU, so the price of everything coming from outside the country will go up... And if Scotland and N. Ireland leave the UK, then it is done as a superpower.

But we'll see, time will answer whether or not this a good decision.

On June 26 2016 06:55 phantomlancer23 wrote:


Every uncertainty does this, the fall of pound is only temporary and clearly the uncertainty will hit europe soon and hard as we all can see the referentums are coming boys!!.When England will be stable and europe will be in the colapsing process all the investors will find safe place in UK and pound will be as strong as they want it.
Its like to have chicken pox, so much younger you are better for you.

On June 26 2016 07:03 Plansix wrote:
Or the rest of the EU will watch what happens as the UK it slips into back recession, UK citizens lose their jobs in the EU, are forced to move home, investment in the UK decreases across the board and all the other nations in the EU will say "nope, we lose more than the nothing we gain from leaving the EU."

I doubt a lot of nations are gong too be super excited for the uncertainty and instability that leaving the EU will bring.

On June 26 2016 07:03 Plansix wrote:
Or the rest of the EU will watch what happens as the UK it slips into back recession, UK citizens lose their jobs in the EU, are forced to move home, investment in the UK decreases across the board and all the other nations in the EU will say "nope, we lose more than the nothing we gain from leaving the EU."

I doubt a lot of nations are gong too be super excited for the uncertainty and instability that leaving the EU will bring.

On June 26 2016 07:11 DeepElemBlues wrote:
The condescension train in the media shows no signs of stopping any time soon.

The idea that elitists being condescending towards the working class masses helped Leave win apparently has not occurred to the elitists yet. Show contempt and disdain for them, patronize them, tell them they're too ignorant (and, through implication, stupid) to have political power through democratic methods... and then be shocked and dismayed when they spit in your eye, and blame it on their ignorance (and again, through implication, stupidity). Or just blame it on them being racists. There is almost no self-reflection among Remain supporters as to why they lost. It's all because the other side is so bad. There is no respect for the common people. You don't even get the impression that the modern aristocracy wishes they could just do away with democracy, many of them come right out and say so.

Britain would be in the EU today if the concerns of Leave voters had been addressed respectfully years ago instead of mocked and dismissed. Pure hubris. Sooner or later, Nemesis always shows up in response to it.

On June 26 2016 07:16 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
So in your view, out of all the voters, the 52% leave voters are working class and the 48% remain voters are the modern aristocracy. Ok.

On June 26 2016 07:29 DeepElemBlues wrote:


Yes that is exactly what I said. Wait no it isn't and you know it isn't. You should also probably look at how Leave cleaned up with working class Labour voters in many areas across England especially northeast England. If they had voted the way Labour voters usually vote Remain would have won. And of course Leave did very strongly with working class Tory voters.

Which side's campaigners were fervent believers in technocratic globalism? Remain, of course. It's not even up for debate that the EU places various levels of unelected bureaucracy in between the people and policy, with little recourse for the people regarding policy decisions they dislike. The debate is whether that is a bad thing or not.

Who has been blamed for Remain losing by disappointed Remain voters and campaigners on Twitter and in a thousand opinion columns since Friday morning? The ignorant and probably racist white working class.