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On April 28 2013 23:21 Bermuda wrote:
Not all fountain pens are luxury items. Most of the time, I use a standard bic like 99% of the people. But from time to time, I still use my parker. Simple, effective, relatively cheap. Nothing really fancy, but beats a bic anyday.
Got my first at 12. And buy one back when I was older. The feeling is really nice and it gets the job done flawlessly. I don't really see the need for one of those crazy montblanc or whatever.
The Parker Vector is fine as long as it's new. When you use it for a few months, it rapidly breaks apart even if you're being careful with it. The cap keeps having cracks or becomes loose and doesn't close the pen anymore, and the nib breaks easily too.
I bought like 4-5 Vectors in ... two and a half years? Three years ? That's 5x15€ = 75€ in three years for a standard plastic pen. I'm way happier with my Waterman Hemisphere Essential. It looks amazing in my opinion, writes much better than the Parker Vector, and is way, waaaay sturdier. Since I'm a College student, I spend a ton of time writing and I use my pen a lot, and yet, even now that I've owned it for a little over a year, it's still as good as new, there's been literally no wear.
As for the higher end fountain pens, you don't NEED one, just like nobody NEEDS a Ferrari. You just buy one if you can afford it because you like it and think it's worth the money you put in it 
NB : fountain pens like mine can indiscriminately use ink cartridges or ink bottles
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On April 28 2013 22:37 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 19:38 Amui wrote:On April 28 2013 17:17 Xapti wrote:
I didn't use more than 1 cheap pen per year of college/university, and never had to buy any. If your cost issue is with pens for a post-secondary education, you're doing something totally wrong. I fail to see hoe a near infinite supply of free pens is more expensive than buying at least one x$ inkwell and a x$ pen.
Aside from that, fountain pens use up more time due to constantly having to re-dip the pen, which is inefficient.
Fountain pens are generally for artists and hipsters; they aren't particularly practical. Honestly I understand where you're coming from, but for a writing tool that I'm going to be using for several hours each day, I prefer quality. The difference between writing with a generic rollerball(and reduction in hand strain from a shaft that actually has some radius along with not having to press very hard(or basically at all for a fountain pen)) is massive. Same concept with both pencils and pens. I have a mechanical pencil that cost something like $3.00, but over 2 years of university, I have never had it jam, or lock up on me. Compared with the shitty $2 per dozen ones I used in highschool, absolutely massive difference. It's absolutely possible to get through university using crappy bic pens. Probably would cost less as well. But for me, as well as a bunch of other people here, we'd gladly pay an order of magnitude more for a single re-usable high quality tool that makes life so much easier and more enjoyable. I'm fine with using a crappy pen for just filling out some forms or signing something, but when I take 10-15 pages of notes every day of class, I'd much rather be using my good quality writing utensils. i would use fountain pens if it wasn't so annyoing to refill them and they wouldn't break so easy. I used them when i was younger 10 untill i was 16 or 17. But in my school career i broke at least 20? maybe more of these fountain pens. I like to to put a lot of pressure on a pen or else my handwriting is awful, if you do that with a ~20$ fountain pen the tip will break at some point. Also the cap broke countless times and i had an ink accident at least once every month. It maybe works if you work in an office or at home but for school or university it is just not comfortable to use it, that is probably the reason why 99% of people in university use 99ct crappy ball pens.
Yeah well, pressing so hard is clearly why fountain pens aren't for you. One of the benefits of using a fountain pen is that you don't have to press hard at all, some pens just glide along the paper laying a beautiful line of ink with no pressure. Pressing too firmly results in what happened to you, broken pens. If you can't adjust to a lighter amount of pressure then fountain pens just won't work out, but if you can adjust, then your hands won't get as tired from writing.
Many students DO use them for school for that very reason, including myself. Note taking just doesn't tire me out like it did when I used ballpoints. Sorry to say, but you're wrong about why students don't use them. They are actually more comfortable for many people once they learn to adjust.
And they can be as convenient as a bic round stick if you want them to be. Refilling them can be as simple as refilling a ballpoint/gel rollerball/etc - unscrew the body, take the empty ink tube out, put a full one in, screw the body back on. Done. And believe it or not, there are a lot of people that enjoy the act of filling their pens from bottled ink, especially those who enjoy history. To them it's simply a pleasurable experience.
On April 29 2013 07:40 fams wrote:
I bought my girlfriends dad a Waterman a little over a year ago. It wasn't until this year I finally got my own pen.
I was going to go for a Waterman, I like their look, and the one that I had used was quite smooth.
After hours of research, my girlfriend suggested that I go for the Namiki Vanishing Point pen. I looked around for a while and checked countless reviews that suggested to go with that Namiki. So I did.
I ended up getting the traditional matte black edition, fine tip. I love it. Absolutely amazing. The weight is great, the feel of the pen itself is wonderful. It rights really well and does not have any leakage issues. However, the backside of the nib is stained (noticeably so) and looks like it might leak - but it does not.
Personally I prefer a medium nib, the thickness just appeals to me more. However, that being said, I love the fine tip on this Namiki.
If you are a first time buyer, OP's suggestions are fine if you do not want to spend too much - but you get what you pay for. Those pens will leak, and will not be nearly as smooth a writing experience as a quality made pen. The Namiki I bought was the first fountain pen I ever owned myself, but having tried others, I knew what I wanted. I would suggest the Namiki. I think it is wonderful.
I don't like the idea of recommending the Vanishing Point. While it is a very nice pen, it poses some issues for beginners and those who have never used a fountain pen. The most obvious being the price point. Why would someone want to try a fountain pen for the first time when it's going to cost them almost $150 when they can just get their tried and true ballpoint/rollerball for $3?
The mechanisms in the Vanishing Point are more complicated and require more research/knowledge than a standard cartridge/converter fountain pen. ie, taking the pen apart you might not realize that you have to be careful about not letting the click mechanism fly away and potentially using it. It's perhaps also a good idea to not fill the pen as a standard converter would be filled because you can get ink stuck inside the nib housing unit which will either drip out when you click the pen open or dry up if you don't remove it, which is something a beginner may not think of.
Many people would argue that there a lot of "quality made pens" on the cheap end. Take the metropolitan, I know people who prefer their metropolitan over pens that cost four times as much, and it's only $15.
I'm not saying that you should never get the Pilot Vanishing Point, because it really is an awesome pen. The retractable mechanism is very well done and that convenience is quite appealing. I simply don't think it's a good choice for beginners.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 29 2013 10:19 Marimokkori wrote:On April 28 2013 22:37 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 19:38 Amui wrote:On April 28 2013 17:17 Xapti wrote:
I didn't use more than 1 cheap pen per year of college/university, and never had to buy any. If your cost issue is with pens for a post-secondary education, you're doing something totally wrong. I fail to see hoe a near infinite supply of free pens is more expensive than buying at least one x$ inkwell and a x$ pen.
Aside from that, fountain pens use up more time due to constantly having to re-dip the pen, which is inefficient.
Fountain pens are generally for artists and hipsters; they aren't particularly practical. Honestly I understand where you're coming from, but for a writing tool that I'm going to be using for several hours each day, I prefer quality. The difference between writing with a generic rollerball(and reduction in hand strain from a shaft that actually has some radius along with not having to press very hard(or basically at all for a fountain pen)) is massive. Same concept with both pencils and pens. I have a mechanical pencil that cost something like $3.00, but over 2 years of university, I have never had it jam, or lock up on me. Compared with the shitty $2 per dozen ones I used in highschool, absolutely massive difference. It's absolutely possible to get through university using crappy bic pens. Probably would cost less as well. But for me, as well as a bunch of other people here, we'd gladly pay an order of magnitude more for a single re-usable high quality tool that makes life so much easier and more enjoyable. I'm fine with using a crappy pen for just filling out some forms or signing something, but when I take 10-15 pages of notes every day of class, I'd much rather be using my good quality writing utensils. i would use fountain pens if it wasn't so annyoing to refill them and they wouldn't break so easy. I used them when i was younger 10 untill i was 16 or 17. But in my school career i broke at least 20? maybe more of these fountain pens. I like to to put a lot of pressure on a pen or else my handwriting is awful, if you do that with a ~20$ fountain pen the tip will break at some point. Also the cap broke countless times and i had an ink accident at least once every month. It maybe works if you work in an office or at home but for school or university it is just not comfortable to use it, that is probably the reason why 99% of people in university use 99ct crappy ball pens. Yeah well, pressing so hard is clearly why fountain pens aren't for you. One of the benefits of using a fountain pen is that you don't have to press hard at all, some pens just glide along the paper laying a beautiful line of ink with no pressure. Pressing too firmly results in what happened to you, broken pens. If you can't adjust to a lighter amount of pressure then fountain pens just won't work out, but if you can adjust, then your hands won't get as tired from writing. Many students DO use them for school for that very reason, including myself. Note taking just doesn't tire me out like it did when I used ballpoints. Sorry to say, but you're wrong about why students don't use them. They are actually more comfortable for many people once they learn to adjust. And they can be as convenient as a bic round stick if you want them to be. Refilling them can be as simple as refilling a ballpoint/gel rollerball/etc - unscrew the body, take the empty ink tube out, put a full one in, screw the body back on. Done. And believe it or not, there are a lot of people that enjoy the act of filling their pens from bottled ink, especially those who enjoy history. To them it's simply a pleasurable experience. On April 29 2013 07:40 fams wrote:
I bought my girlfriends dad a Waterman a little over a year ago. It wasn't until this year I finally got my own pen.
I was going to go for a Waterman, I like their look, and the one that I had used was quite smooth.
After hours of research, my girlfriend suggested that I go for the Namiki Vanishing Point pen. I looked around for a while and checked countless reviews that suggested to go with that Namiki. So I did.
I ended up getting the traditional matte black edition, fine tip. I love it. Absolutely amazing. The weight is great, the feel of the pen itself is wonderful. It rights really well and does not have any leakage issues. However, the backside of the nib is stained (noticeably so) and looks like it might leak - but it does not.
Personally I prefer a medium nib, the thickness just appeals to me more. However, that being said, I love the fine tip on this Namiki.
If you are a first time buyer, OP's suggestions are fine if you do not want to spend too much - but you get what you pay for. Those pens will leak, and will not be nearly as smooth a writing experience as a quality made pen. The Namiki I bought was the first fountain pen I ever owned myself, but having tried others, I knew what I wanted. I would suggest the Namiki. I think it is wonderful. I don't like the idea of recommending the Vanishing Point. While it is a very nice pen, it poses some issues for beginners and those who have never used a fountain pen. The most obvious being the price point. Why would someone want to try a fountain pen for the first time when it's going to cost them almost $150 when they can just get their tried and true ballpoint/rollerball for $3? The mechanisms in the Vanishing Point are more complicated and require more research/knowledge than a standard cartridge/converter fountain pen. ie, taking the pen apart you might not realize that you have to be careful about not letting the click mechanism fly away and potentially using it. It's perhaps also a good idea to not fill the pen as a standard converter would be filled because you can get ink stuck inside the nib housing unit which will either drip out when you click the pen open or dry up if you don't remove it, which is something a beginner may not think of. Many people would argue that there a lot of "quality made pens" on the cheap end. Take the metropolitan, I know people who prefer their metropolitan over pens that cost four times as much, and it's only $15. I'm not saying that you should never get the Pilot Vanishing Point, because it really is an awesome pen. The retractable mechanism is very well done and that convenience is quite appealing. I simply don't think it's a good choice for beginners.
Yeah I understand what you are saying. But truth be told, if you are seriously considering getting a fountain pen for more than simply the novelty of having one, then you want something that you know is tried and true.
If you are just testing it out and want to see if you like it - yes, do not buy it. It is expensive. But if you are a writer and you love working with pens rather than a keyboard, and the idea of a fountain pen fascinates you, I do not see any reason to forgo a little expense. In the long run, the quality will last.
Also, as far as it being complicated - I only half agree. I just use the cartridges and they are really simple to figure out.
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This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly.
I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^.
Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough
Cheers
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Because of this thread I bought a fountain pen to take my physics and logic finals with. Thanks for the topic ^^
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On April 29 2013 15:06 Mordanis wrote:
Because of this thread I bought a fountain pen to take my physics and logic finals with. Thanks for the topic ^^
wow... first timer and already using it in an exam?
That's bravery.
I ma save the fountain pen for casual writing first :3
Use em gel pens for my coming exam cos i m a pussy.. hehe
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On April 29 2013 15:05 Djzapz wrote:This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly. I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^. Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough Cheers
I have that exact pen, posted pics a few pages back. The inkflow is a bit slow in the beginning, straight out of the box that is, but after some usage it works very well. The Waterman Expert II is said to have better inital inkflow and but has been reported to have leakage in some cases, but there should be a warranty if that where to occur. Overall they cost about the same and perform about the same (from what reviews I've read), I chose the Parker because I like the design more. From what I understand most people seem to think the Lamy 2000 is the best pen in terms of performance of the three, but it is also a bit higher priced and its design is kinda bland.
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On April 29 2013 12:18 fams wrote:Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +On April 29 2013 10:19 Marimokkori wrote:On April 28 2013 22:37 idonthinksobro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 19:38 Amui wrote:On April 28 2013 17:17 Xapti wrote:
I didn't use more than 1 cheap pen per year of college/university, and never had to buy any. If your cost issue is with pens for a post-secondary education, you're doing something totally wrong. I fail to see hoe a near infinite supply of free pens is more expensive than buying at least one x$ inkwell and a x$ pen.
Aside from that, fountain pens use up more time due to constantly having to re-dip the pen, which is inefficient.
Fountain pens are generally for artists and hipsters; they aren't particularly practical. Honestly I understand where you're coming from, but for a writing tool that I'm going to be using for several hours each day, I prefer quality. The difference between writing with a generic rollerball(and reduction in hand strain from a shaft that actually has some radius along with not having to press very hard(or basically at all for a fountain pen)) is massive. Same concept with both pencils and pens. I have a mechanical pencil that cost something like $3.00, but over 2 years of university, I have never had it jam, or lock up on me. Compared with the shitty $2 per dozen ones I used in highschool, absolutely massive difference. It's absolutely possible to get through university using crappy bic pens. Probably would cost less as well. But for me, as well as a bunch of other people here, we'd gladly pay an order of magnitude more for a single re-usable high quality tool that makes life so much easier and more enjoyable. I'm fine with using a crappy pen for just filling out some forms or signing something, but when I take 10-15 pages of notes every day of class, I'd much rather be using my good quality writing utensils. i would use fountain pens if it wasn't so annyoing to refill them and they wouldn't break so easy. I used them when i was younger 10 untill i was 16 or 17. But in my school career i broke at least 20? maybe more of these fountain pens. I like to to put a lot of pressure on a pen or else my handwriting is awful, if you do that with a ~20$ fountain pen the tip will break at some point. Also the cap broke countless times and i had an ink accident at least once every month. It maybe works if you work in an office or at home but for school or university it is just not comfortable to use it, that is probably the reason why 99% of people in university use 99ct crappy ball pens. Yeah well, pressing so hard is clearly why fountain pens aren't for you. One of the benefits of using a fountain pen is that you don't have to press hard at all, some pens just glide along the paper laying a beautiful line of ink with no pressure. Pressing too firmly results in what happened to you, broken pens. If you can't adjust to a lighter amount of pressure then fountain pens just won't work out, but if you can adjust, then your hands won't get as tired from writing. Many students DO use them for school for that very reason, including myself. Note taking just doesn't tire me out like it did when I used ballpoints. Sorry to say, but you're wrong about why students don't use them. They are actually more comfortable for many people once they learn to adjust. And they can be as convenient as a bic round stick if you want them to be. Refilling them can be as simple as refilling a ballpoint/gel rollerball/etc - unscrew the body, take the empty ink tube out, put a full one in, screw the body back on. Done. And believe it or not, there are a lot of people that enjoy the act of filling their pens from bottled ink, especially those who enjoy history. To them it's simply a pleasurable experience. On April 29 2013 07:40 fams wrote:
I bought my girlfriends dad a Waterman a little over a year ago. It wasn't until this year I finally got my own pen.
I was going to go for a Waterman, I like their look, and the one that I had used was quite smooth.
After hours of research, my girlfriend suggested that I go for the Namiki Vanishing Point pen. I looked around for a while and checked countless reviews that suggested to go with that Namiki. So I did.
I ended up getting the traditional matte black edition, fine tip. I love it. Absolutely amazing. The weight is great, the feel of the pen itself is wonderful. It rights really well and does not have any leakage issues. However, the backside of the nib is stained (noticeably so) and looks like it might leak - but it does not.
Personally I prefer a medium nib, the thickness just appeals to me more. However, that being said, I love the fine tip on this Namiki.
If you are a first time buyer, OP's suggestions are fine if you do not want to spend too much - but you get what you pay for. Those pens will leak, and will not be nearly as smooth a writing experience as a quality made pen. The Namiki I bought was the first fountain pen I ever owned myself, but having tried others, I knew what I wanted. I would suggest the Namiki. I think it is wonderful. I don't like the idea of recommending the Vanishing Point. While it is a very nice pen, it poses some issues for beginners and those who have never used a fountain pen. The most obvious being the price point. Why would someone want to try a fountain pen for the first time when it's going to cost them almost $150 when they can just get their tried and true ballpoint/rollerball for $3? The mechanisms in the Vanishing Point are more complicated and require more research/knowledge than a standard cartridge/converter fountain pen. ie, taking the pen apart you might not realize that you have to be careful about not letting the click mechanism fly away and potentially using it. It's perhaps also a good idea to not fill the pen as a standard converter would be filled because you can get ink stuck inside the nib housing unit which will either drip out when you click the pen open or dry up if you don't remove it, which is something a beginner may not think of. Many people would argue that there a lot of "quality made pens" on the cheap end. Take the metropolitan, I know people who prefer their metropolitan over pens that cost four times as much, and it's only $15. I'm not saying that you should never get the Pilot Vanishing Point, because it really is an awesome pen. The retractable mechanism is very well done and that convenience is quite appealing. I simply don't think it's a good choice for beginners. Yeah I understand what you are saying. But truth be told, if you are seriously considering getting a fountain pen for more than simply the novelty of having one, then you want something that you know is tried and true. If you are just testing it out and want to see if you like it - yes, do not buy it. It is expensive. But if you are a writer and you love working with pens rather than a keyboard, and the idea of a fountain pen fascinates you, I do not see any reason to forgo a little expense. In the long run, the quality will last. Also, as far as it being complicated - I only half agree. I just use the cartridges and they are really simple to figure out.
Well I hope you enjoy your bottled ink experience whenever you choose to make the venture.
On April 25 2013 03:31 WoundedKite wrote:
Ink is like Pokemon--gotta try 'em all.
On April 29 2013 15:06 Mordanis wrote:
Because of this thread I bought a fountain pen to take my physics and logic finals with. Thanks for the topic ^^
For a physics final? Good luck! On my physics final next week I'll be using a Pilot Frixion.
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On April 29 2013 16:11 broodmann wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 15:05 Djzapz wrote:This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly. I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^. Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough Cheers I have that exact pen, posted pics a few pages back. The inkflow is a bit slow in the beginning, straight out of the box that is, but after some usage it works very well. The Waterman Expert II is said to have better inital inkflow and but has been reported to have leakage in some cases, but there should be a warranty if that where to occur. Overall they cost about the same and perform about the same (from what reviews I've read), I chose the Parker because I like the design more. From what I understand most people seem to think the Lamy 2000 is the best pen in terms of performance of the three, but it is also a bit higher priced and its design is kinda bland.
Thanks for the info, it looks absolutely amazing. Also the Waterman Expert II is very much to my liking, but it's $50 more where I can find it. The gold/stainless nib is beautiful too.
The Lamy 2000 doesn't look bad but it's not the kind of look I'm going for. It's the kind of thing I'd like to take outside though, for taking notes or something. Anywho thank you!!
On April 29 2013 23:21 Marimokkori wrote:For a physics final? Good luck! On my physics final next week I'll be using a Pilot Frixion.
I've used a pilot Frixion, slightly different model though. If you're not familiar with them, I would consider bringing two to the exam  they seem to run out fast.
Edit: Got my Nemosine Singularity: I'm sold as ****. I ended up ordering this:
![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51p9efdMuYL._AA1500_.jpg)
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On April 29 2013 15:20 lazyitachi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 15:06 Mordanis wrote:
Because of this thread I bought a fountain pen to take my physics and logic finals with. Thanks for the topic ^^ wow... first timer and already using it in an exam? That's bravery. I ma save the fountain pen for casual writing first :3 Use em gel pens for my coming exam cos i m a pussy.. hehe
I'll have like 8 days of practice, it ain't no thang :D
Because style points count more than actual points, right? right?
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On April 29 2013 23:37 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 16:11 broodmann wrote:On April 29 2013 15:05 Djzapz wrote:This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly. I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^. Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough Cheers I have that exact pen, posted pics a few pages back. The inkflow is a bit slow in the beginning, straight out of the box that is, but after some usage it works very well. The Waterman Expert II is said to have better inital inkflow and but has been reported to have leakage in some cases, but there should be a warranty if that where to occur. Overall they cost about the same and perform about the same (from what reviews I've read), I chose the Parker because I like the design more. From what I understand most people seem to think the Lamy 2000 is the best pen in terms of performance of the three, but it is also a bit higher priced and its design is kinda bland. Thanks for the info, it looks absolutely amazing. Also the Waterman Expert II is very much to my liking, but it's $50 more where I can find it. The gold/stainless nib is beautiful too. The Lamy 2000 doesn't look bad but it's not the kind of look I'm going for. It's the kind of thing I'd like to take outside though, for taking notes or something. Anywho thank you!! I've used a pilot Frixion, slightly different model though. If you're not familiar with them, I would consider bringing two to the exam they seem to run out fast. Edit: Got my Nemosine Singularity: I'm sold as ****. I ended up ordering this: + Show Spoiler +
I really like my singularity also, except that the plastic feels a little cheap when capping/uncapping the pen. I'm probably going to get the Monteverde Artista Crystal pretty soon. That clear feed is just irresistible. I prefer F/EF nibs, and the Artista Crystal only comes in M, so that's a bummer, but the style is totally worth it.
As for the Frixions, I don't really like the color of line they put down, but hey, it's really easy to erase. They did a very nice job with the intended function of that ink.
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It's like two different people wrote the OP. Nice fountain pen - classic, nice to have, professional. Pen spinning - juvenile and silly.
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On April 30 2013 09:08 Marimokkori wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 23:37 Djzapz wrote:On April 29 2013 16:11 broodmann wrote:On April 29 2013 15:05 Djzapz wrote:This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly. I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^. Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough Cheers I have that exact pen, posted pics a few pages back. The inkflow is a bit slow in the beginning, straight out of the box that is, but after some usage it works very well. The Waterman Expert II is said to have better inital inkflow and but has been reported to have leakage in some cases, but there should be a warranty if that where to occur. Overall they cost about the same and perform about the same (from what reviews I've read), I chose the Parker because I like the design more. From what I understand most people seem to think the Lamy 2000 is the best pen in terms of performance of the three, but it is also a bit higher priced and its design is kinda bland. Thanks for the info, it looks absolutely amazing. Also the Waterman Expert II is very much to my liking, but it's $50 more where I can find it. The gold/stainless nib is beautiful too. The Lamy 2000 doesn't look bad but it's not the kind of look I'm going for. It's the kind of thing I'd like to take outside though, for taking notes or something. Anywho thank you!! On April 29 2013 23:21 Marimokkori wrote:For a physics final? Good luck! On my physics final next week I'll be using a Pilot Frixion. I've used a pilot Frixion, slightly different model though. If you're not familiar with them, I would consider bringing two to the exam they seem to run out fast. Edit: Got my Nemosine Singularity: I'm sold as ****. I ended up ordering this: + Show Spoiler + I really like my singularity also, except that the plastic feels a little cheap when capping/uncapping the pen. I'm probably going to get the Monteverde Artista Crystal pretty soon. That clear feed is just irresistible. I prefer F/EF nibs, and the Artista Crystal only comes in M, so that's a bummer, but the style is totally worth it. As for the Frixions, I don't really like the color of line they put down, but hey, it's really easy to erase. They did a very nice job with the intended function of that ink.
The clear feed actually is really nice :D. But yeah frixions suck but I use them to write exams so once it's turned in it's no longer my problem
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On April 29 2013 15:05 Djzapz wrote:This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly. I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^. Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough Cheers
Why not check out the Pilot Metropolitan. its pretty much the absolute best bang for your buck out there?
Further up, (and somewhat more exotic) are TWSBI's, they tend to be demonstrator type fountain pens.
I'm partial to Sailor Pens, but those are higher in price (North of $125 usually), and I have a vintage Parkers, tbh not a huge fan of their new stuff. You could check out Cross Pens, they have a more "modern" aesthetic, and I think they use Pelikan nibs (fantastic reputable manufacturer of Nibs, but their pricing has gotten stupid lately). Sheaffer (and the Waterman Carene, also more expensive) have that old fashioned inlaid nib, very pretty. For a more modern aesthetic, there is the Lamy 2000, but that's also more expensive
Hope that helps some. I love collecting fountain pens. I enjoy their permanence, but the big draw is all the funky inks you get to use.
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Would you rec the Pilot Metropolitan over the Ohto F-Spirit?
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On April 30 2013 10:45 hoemuffin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 15:05 Djzapz wrote:This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly. I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^. Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough Cheers Why not check out the Pilot Metropolitan. its pretty much the absolute best bang for your buck out there? Further up, (and somewhat more exotic) are TWSBI's, they tend to be demonstrator type fountain pens. I'm partial to Sailor Pens, but those are higher in price (North of $125 usually), and I have a vintage Parkers, tbh not a huge fan of their new stuff. You could check out Cross Pens, they have a more "modern" aesthetic, and I think they use Pelikan nibs (fantastic reputable manufacturer of Nibs, but their pricing has gotten stupid lately). Sheaffer (and the Waterman Carene, also more expensive) have that old fashioned inlaid nib, very pretty. For a more modern aesthetic, there is the Lamy 2000, but that's also more expensive Hope that helps some. I love collecting fountain pens. I enjoy their permanence, but the big draw is all the funky inks you get to use.
I might pick up a few myself. The Pilot Metropolitan looks pretty good and it's the kinda thing I might end up using as my "casual" pen. The Parker is a bit fancy to bring to school... on the other hand, if I'm going to have something that cool, might as well use it.
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On April 30 2013 11:17 babylon wrote:
Would you rec the Pilot Metropolitan over the Ohto F-Spirit?
I would. At $15 the Metropolitan is really a steal. Read up about it / watch reviews / etc. It's probably the most recommended pen for < $20.
+ Show Spoiler [Video review by Stephen Brown] +
On April 30 2013 10:45 hoemuffin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 15:05 Djzapz wrote:This is going to be quick because I'm incredibly tired and I need to sleep very badly. I ordered a semi-cheap fountain fountain pen to see if I can manage to figure out a viable writing technique with it before moving on to something nice. If it works out, I'm thinking of buying some higher end pen that'd both look good (and hopefully last me many years) and write well. I'd mostly use it to write exams and take some notes and whatnot. I'm looking at the black Parker Sonnet with golden trim which seems to be going for $85 from amazon. I know I'm getting ahead of myself and I don't intend to order anything before making sure I actually like the feel of a fountain pen... sometimes I get these mild OCD phases ^^. Anyhow, does anyone have any opinions about this pen in particular? Are there others in that price range I should look at? I haven't really found pen which look better to me, so if it writes well, I'll be happy enough Cheers Why not check out the Pilot Metropolitan. its pretty much the absolute best bang for your buck out there? Further up, (and somewhat more exotic) are TWSBI's, they tend to be demonstrator type fountain pens. I'm partial to Sailor Pens, but those are higher in price (North of $125 usually), and I have a vintage Parkers, tbh not a huge fan of their new stuff. You could check out Cross Pens, they have a more "modern" aesthetic, and I think they use Pelikan nibs (fantastic reputable manufacturer of Nibs, but their pricing has gotten stupid lately). Sheaffer (and the Waterman Carene, also more expensive) have that old fashioned inlaid nib, very pretty. For a more modern aesthetic, there is the Lamy 2000, but that's also more expensive Hope that helps some. I love collecting fountain pens. I enjoy their permanence, but the big draw is all the funky inks you get to use.
TWSBI Diamonds are really cool pens. If you check them out, you may like to know that The Vac 700 is coming out in a mini version. TWSBI has released information that they have it in the works.
Left: Vac 700. Right: Concept design for the Vac Mini
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The Vac 700 holds a very generous amount of ink thanks to the nifty filling mechanism, so depending on how many classes you need to take notes in, that could be beneficial.
+ Show Spoiler [Video Review by Goulet] +
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Okay, got a Pilot Metropolitan on the way. I'll let you guys know if (i.e. when) I break it. D:
They seemed to only have one size (medium). I have pretty tiny handwriting, so I hope the tip if fine enough.
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On April 29 2013 07:42 Adel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2013 23:21 Bermuda wrote:
Not all fountain pens are luxury items. Most of the time, I use a standard bic like 99% of the people. But from time to time, I still use my parker. Simple, effective, relatively cheap. Nothing really fancy, but beats a bic anyday.
Got my first at 12. And buy one back when I was older. The feeling is really nice and it gets the job done flawlessly. I don't really see the need for one of those crazy montblanc or whatever.
The Parker Vector is fine as long as it's new. When you use it for a few months, it rapidly breaks apart even if you're being careful with it. The cap keeps having cracks or becomes loose and doesn't close the pen anymore, and the nib breaks easily too. I bought like 4-5 Vectors in ... two and a half years? Three years ? That's 5x15€ = 75€ in three years for a standard plastic pen. I'm way happier with my Waterman Hemisphere Essential. It looks amazing in my opinion, writes much better than the Parker Vector, and is way, waaaay sturdier. Since I'm a College student, I spend a ton of time writing and I use my pen a lot, and yet, even now that I've owned it for a little over a year, it's still as good as new, there's been literally no wear. As for the higher end fountain pens, you don't NEED one, just like nobody NEEDS a Ferrari. You just buy one if you can afford it because you like it and think it's worth the money you put in it NB : fountain pens like mine can indiscriminately use ink cartridges or ink bottles
Yes, you are definitly right. I remember as a child / young teenager having all the problems you described with my parker. But, when it isn't new anymore the parker tends "to scratch" the paper a little, not breaking it or anything, just some sort of light scratching. And for some reasons I like the sensation.
I had other pens, including Waterman, and they never had that "slightly scratchy" feeling. They were too smooth for my taste. Now that I think about it after what you wrote, it's just probably the nib getting old and used. But I don't know, for whatever reason I like that feeling. ^^
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On May 01 2013 14:03 Bermuda wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2013 07:42 Adel wrote:On April 28 2013 23:21 Bermuda wrote:
Not all fountain pens are luxury items. Most of the time, I use a standard bic like 99% of the people. But from time to time, I still use my parker. Simple, effective, relatively cheap. Nothing really fancy, but beats a bic anyday.
Got my first at 12. And buy one back when I was older. The feeling is really nice and it gets the job done flawlessly. I don't really see the need for one of those crazy montblanc or whatever.
The Parker Vector is fine as long as it's new. When you use it for a few months, it rapidly breaks apart even if you're being careful with it. The cap keeps having cracks or becomes loose and doesn't close the pen anymore, and the nib breaks easily too. I bought like 4-5 Vectors in ... two and a half years? Three years ? That's 5x15€ = 75€ in three years for a standard plastic pen. I'm way happier with my Waterman Hemisphere Essential. It looks amazing in my opinion, writes much better than the Parker Vector, and is way, waaaay sturdier. Since I'm a College student, I spend a ton of time writing and I use my pen a lot, and yet, even now that I've owned it for a little over a year, it's still as good as new, there's been literally no wear. As for the higher end fountain pens, you don't NEED one, just like nobody NEEDS a Ferrari. You just buy one if you can afford it because you like it and think it's worth the money you put in it NB : fountain pens like mine can indiscriminately use ink cartridges or ink bottles Yes, you are definitly right. I remember as a child / young teenager having all the problems you described with my parker. But, when it isn't new anymore the parker tends "to scratch" the paper a little, not breaking it or anything, just some sort of light scratching. And for some reasons I like the sensation. I had other pens, including Waterman, and they never had that "slightly scratchy" feeling. They were too smooth for my taste. Now that I think about it after what you wrote, it's just probably the nib getting old and used. But I don't know, for whatever reason I like that feeling. ^^
Ugh I HATE that feeling. I need them to be as smooth as possible. :p
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