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On April 27 2013 05:37 lazyitachi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 05:12 Prog455 wrote:On April 27 2013 04:43 lazyitachi wrote: Got a Lamy Al-Star... Feels good. So I went ahead to get another Lamy Safari and Lamy Vista Clear Demonstrater.
I am not sure what ink is good... So just ordered some Pelikan and Sheaffer... What inks are good? I am hoping to try out more colors since I have a few pens/ nibs to switch around.. If you can get your hands on some Pilot Iroshizuku you are good to go. Pelikan Edelstein is very good aswell. I use Pelikan Edelstein Topaz and i'm very satisfied. Keep in mind that you need a converter in order to use bottled ink for those pens. Nice recommendations! I checked them out and the Pelikan ones seems quite good price. The Pilot one... omg... amazing color range though a bit pricy :p Watching the reviews on them inks now :D Yeap.. i think the Lamy's comes with converters.
Iroshizuku are indeed quite pricy, especially if you live in Europe and have to ship them from Japan or USA. Also i am pretty sure that converter is sold separately. I didn't get one with my Lamy safari anyway.
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On April 27 2013 04:51 0x64 wrote: Well, that's probably only the case for those who didn't have to use a fountain pen in school. My hand position just won't make it possible to touch the non-dry ink... It's touching 3 lines higher and 15 cm away from the writing...
My other pen is giving a little bit too much ink and I'm writing numbers from 1 to 10, by that time it's dry up to number 4.
Parker's Quink (Washable blue).
Also cool stuff I notices, they have "ink reserves" now. Like a warning that you are running out... tap it a magically get more :D You could be right about that. Where I grew up we were forced to use pencils until about 5th grade. I knew a few lefties who would drag there hand through freshly laid text because it didn't really matter with a pencil and kids don't care about a little graphite on their hands.
I guess they turn in to adults who have trouble finding a good ink for fountain pens 
On April 27 2013 05:12 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 04:43 lazyitachi wrote: Got a Lamy Al-Star... Feels good. So I went ahead to get another Lamy Safari and Lamy Vista Clear Demonstrater.
I am not sure what ink is good... So just ordered some Pelikan and Sheaffer... What inks are good? I am hoping to try out more colors since I have a few pens/ nibs to switch around.. If you can get your hands on some Pilot Iroshizuku you are good to go. Pelikan Edelstein is very good aswell. I use Pelikan Edelstein Topaz and i'm very satisfied. Keep in mind that you need a converter in order to use bottled ink for those pens. Lamy has a few different converters. The Z 24 converter is intended for the Safari/Vista/Al-Star. Though I think one of the other Lamy converters works as well, it just doesn't click into place like the Z24 does.
One ink I know a lot of people dislike is Parker Quink. I bought it simply because it's cheap. And I can see why it's disliked. Not a quality ink, but I didn't really expect much at that price.
I would recommend checking out Inkcyclopedia. Very extensive look at a decent number of inks, and the database is still growing.
http://fpgeeks.com/category/inkcyclopedia/
Here is one of the Iroshizuku inks examined in Inkcyclopedia http://fpgeeks.com/2013/02/inkcyclopedia-iroshizuku-fuyu-gaki/
EDIT: Also just found some neat photos of writing styles and descriptions for lefties using fountain pens.
http://www.nibs.com/Left-hand writers.htm
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Inspired by this little topic I tracked down a pretty cheapo fountain pen and started writing with it. My experiences have always been with a two-for present at Christmas - someone buys me two pens, one a crappy ball-point one a crappy fountain pen, and I've always been unimpressed with the fountains.
So I took this pen out and sat down, and started writing, fully expecting to hate it. I was just curious to see if I had missed something, or was mis-remembering from childhood. And...it was kinda perfect. It was a joy to write with. The ink was smooth, the nib didn't scratch or catch, and it was probably neater than my usual chicken-scratch. Might have to try getting myself a real fountain pen in the future. But for now, my cheapo one will be in pretty constant use.
Thanks, random fountain pen lovers! You have a convert.
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I use these (sorry, taken with shitty phone camera):
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Cfm089j.jpg) They are all cheap-ass, but they do their job perfectly, at least for someone as bad as me who only draws for fun.
On April 25 2013 23:47 Marimokkori wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 08:13 fabiano wrote:Just drawed those using dib/nib pen: + Show Spoiler +Lost my arm smoothness, but drawing with nib/fountain pens is so much fun ^^ This is just sick. Would love to see some more + Show Spoiler +On April 25 2013 17:30 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 17:25 wptlzkwjd wrote:On April 24 2013 23:24 Bwaaaa wrote: Can you carry a fountain pen around in your pant pocket everyday? I currently have a crappy ball point that has been in my pocket for years and have been contemplating investing 20-30 dollars in an upgrade. Are fountain pens practical compared to a ball point for an everyday carry? Yes! http://www.jetpens.com/Pilot-Capless-Decimo-Fountain-Pen-18K-Gold-Medium-Nib-Dark-Blue/pd/2512This is the one that I have and you click the nib out like a normal ballpoint pen. It's really expensive even though you can get about half the price of that on eBay. '20-30 dollars' > suggest 18k gold nibbed pen. Heh  For 20-30 dollars, I'd go with a Lamy Safari if the triangular grip section wouldn't bother you. (The + on the top of the pen he talks about is mentioned in the youtube comments. Apparently it's so you can differentiate between the fountain pen and other types of pens with the same body/model)
thanks lol
Pencil work: + Show Spoiler +
Into dip pen half-way work: + Show Spoiler +
From here I would usually thicken up the traces, do some basic shading and then spend hours on photoshop failing at painting...
hah guess what, just found that deviant art doesnt delete old accounts.... +5 years old drawings of mine: http://ganancia.deviantart.com/gallery/
so shitty LOL
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After I read this thread, I am considering to use a fountain pen. A quick search led me to this page: http://www.stylo.ca/en/cat/Fountain-pen/67.html
None the pens the OP recommended for appeared there for first-timers. Do you have any cheap recommendation based on what this shop sell?
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If you walk into a meeting with a $840 (USD) Montblanc pen, everyone in the room notices.
I'm pretty sure they don't. I imagine the thought process of people in the room runs in veins like this
"man, I have not had enough coffee today"
"oh hey it's frank! hey frank!"
"kill.... killll.... can't let it show.... can't let them know how much I want to rip their bellies open and feed upon them. I am a stone, I am still. The hunter waits"
"oh, another email... better check that right now"
"Why isn't the guy who just walked in wearing any pants? Huh, guess he must have spent all his money on that biro he's holding out in front of him and couldn't afford them... strange world. Still haven't had enough coffee."
parody aside, I'm a fan of the fountain pen. Only cheap ones, though. I find a three dollar pen is generally way more reliable than a 30 dollar one for some reason.
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On April 27 2013 12:08 Rizare wrote:After I read this thread, I am considering to use a fountain pen. A quick search led me to this page: http://www.stylo.ca/en/cat/Fountain-pen/67.htmlNone the pens the OP recommended for appeared there for first-timers. Do you have any cheap recommendation based on what this shop sell?
Ultra cheap Pilot VPen - I haven't used one, but I've heard a good amount of mixed reviews. Some like it, some don't. AFAIK there is no way to refill the ink in this pen.
Cheap Parker Reflex
Looks like a good number of pens on there are really over priced compared to most of the market. Parker IM for $40? Less than $30 everywhere else. Pilot Plumix is 3x as much as other vendors. I would try amazon, or see what shipping will be from companies like Jetpens or Goulet Pens.
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Got into using fountain pens after living in Germany, seems like everyone in school over there uses fountain pens. I just use the standard LAMY Safari pen with medium tip. So good to write with, and i have the cartridge/tube system so when the old ink is finished, just unplug the old and put a new one in.
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Hey guys nice thread you got going on here. My father who is really into woodworking just starting making high quality fountain pens and opened up an estore. If you guys are looking for affordable one-of-a kind handmade craftsmanship, please check it out. He makes fountain and rollerball pens out of wood and acrylic. He uses fine exhibition grade rare woods and custom components.
http://www.quillandbadger.com/ http://www.etsy.com/shop/QuillandBadger
I dont really know anything about these pens, but if anything I would really appreciate it if some of you afficianados would check out what he is doing and let me know if you have any comments or suggestions for him.
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Im sorry i have to say this.
Its a Pen O.o
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I've personally used the same ballpoint for 3 years now and kept refilling it (this one) and probably run through $3 of refills a semester.
I'm probably not the target market for these though, Outside of school I use a pen once in a blue moon to sign/fill out forms.
Cool to see that fountain pens aren't just something to be read about in older books though
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On April 27 2013 12:54 fuzzy_panda wrote: Got into using fountain pens after living in Germany, seems like everyone in school over there uses fountain pens. I just use the standard LAMY Safari pen with medium tip. So good to write with, and i have the cartridge/tube system so when the old ink is finished, just unplug the old and put a new one in. Yeah, everyone here uses them in school. Writing looks so much better using them. And you can erase what you've written, which is also nice.
However, I write with my left hand, so I can't use them because I smear the ink all over the place.
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I used to use them all the time, since in our country that's the only pen you're allowed to use in elementary school. They look so beautiful, but so inconvenient to use lol. I was so happy when I dont have to use them anymore in secondary, but still keep most of them for nostalgia sake. P/s: The thing I hate the most is ink lol. Elementary kid back then, wasnt old enough to appreciate the beauty of the pen, but refilling ink is so annoying and if u screw up, gg hands.
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This is the only fountain Pen I have, and I'm very happy with it so far, it's a parker sonnet
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ogFL70W.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rCTepdT.jpg)
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On April 27 2013 16:37 Capped wrote: Im sorry i have to say this.
Its a Pen O.o
I said something similar in the watch thread. Do not poke enthusiasts, lest you be crucified for your temerity.
I enjoyed using the non-refillable fountains that Pilot made for awhile, although I didn't like the potential for massive ink blots if/when I was writing and paused to think (leaving the nib in contact with the paper). Also, concerns with regards to pen orientation and carrying in pockets - then again, my ultra-micro uni-ball pen worries me as well, but not so much as an open ink reservoir would.
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On April 27 2013 16:37 Capped wrote: Im sorry i have to say this.
Its a Pen O.o
Yep - just like Starcraft is only a game.
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My dad got one of these Montblancs as a gift including ink, it costed about 600 euro's. He never uses it.
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On April 27 2013 21:41 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 16:37 Capped wrote: Im sorry i have to say this.
Its a Pen O.o Yep - just like Starcraft is only a game.
but...but...meh. I have no rebuttle.
Its nice you guys have an interest in something really.
To the pic above with the little arrow on the end, is it bad that as a child i used to find pens with those, rip them off and colelct them? I basically defaced a metric shitton of fountain pens for the arrows :D
I personally hold a love in my heart for a cheap-ass Biro, its not the common ones and i dont know the name of it, but ive held and stolen (from friends) a few of them in my time and oh god they are so good to write with as a lefty.
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To be fair most fanatical enthusiasts have a pretty insufferable attitude that they are better people than others based merely on differing taste or attitude like "If you walk into a meeting with a $840 (USD) Montblanc pen, everyone in the room notices.". Really? Maybe in your head yes. You generally see it on fashion items like for example the threads here on fashion or watches, possibly the worse case I have ever seen, where people were posting the most expensive watches/clothes, from googled images, trying to encourage others to buy these same items, whilst blatantly not owning it themselves, with the most badly self justified reasons.
Anyhow, I owned several fountain pens starting from primary school, just cheap ones, it's a tool, nothing more, not a fashion statement.
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