Will Science Unlock Immortality Before We Die? - Page 4

On March 31 2013 16:40 sths wrote:
Having the option to live forever is good, doesn't mean you actyally have to take the option.

I for one want to see a day where we can sip wine on battlecruisers, get a spunge bath on a medivac and pontificate on the meaning of the universe with a "high" templar. My grand grand grand grand (you get the idea) children will marvel at their grandx4father's military prowess as I command 4 simultanously nuking of zerg hatcheries.

Yes. Who wouldn't want to see that?

On March 31 2013 16:37 ooni wrote:

I agree, our society is pretty fked up. However, I believe society will get better. I mean imagine the life in the 50's, then 1900 then before that... Just keep looking back. We have advanced (though do not know how much), our sense of morality allowed us to put forward human rights, environmental protection policies and such. And these advances are only getting better. Maybe we do live in a fked up society, however, your parents were living in a worse society, and their parents before that. Perhaps, the society will suddenly get worse but not according to the current projection.

On March 31 2013 15:54 Aterons_toss wrote:
As someone who very recently started studying a bit of robotic and is looking forward to ( hopefully ) work in the field of bionics ( hence i read a few things about it ) id say no... it won't be possible.

Let's consider you live to be 80 ( so it's year 2073 ) and you are relatively healthy... you might have a chance to see the people that are "starting" to become "immortal" but unless you are a billionaire you won't be able to have a go at it. I believe the most positive point of view I ever read about having a completely robotic body estimated it would take at least until 2060 and that brain transfer will likely only be possible 10-20 years later.

But you have to also take in consideration that the estimations we have now could be the equivalent of Space odyssey in the 50s, so although people approximate this things now based on the fact that the brain connected prosthesis industry is growing very fast and it's looking very promising in 20 years people might just loss interest and research founding from states could drop up until the point where it would take hundreds of years more to achieve what you want.

And last when you see this "industry" hit its prime you will likely have each and every church goer out on the streets protesting about it, so you could go as far as to say that it might get banned/frowned upon by the state in countries like America, Russia, Polland, Mecix, Argentina, Brazil and even England,France or Spain.

So if we are to be pessimistic you will have only a handful of European countries, China and Japan with private developers that research the things you need for "cyborgs" and do so mostly for immediate commercial purposes and a handful of universities that get state founds to study the field. So even if you are Warren Buffet , one of the Waltons or a king in one of the Arab emirates you will still have to hang in til about 2080-2100 to become (relatively) "immortal".

On March 31 2013 16:56 NonFactor wrote:


Your failing to consider the advancements in general medicine. Chances are, if your below 30 (especially if your a young child) you will live at least to be 100 years old. And this is simply due to better treatments and so on.

Also, unless some drastic happens, I seriously doubt religion will have much say in matters like these in 80 years. Especially in European countries like UK and France. (They are pretty much secular in most issues already.)

And those who say they wouldn't want to live forever, you're missing the point. While immortality does by definition say that you can't die, what we are really talking about here is freeing us from the shackles of our biological clock. (Be it through reversing aging, transplants or us becoming one with machines.)

I fully agree - living for ever does sound dull. But what we are offered here is immortality - until we choose to end our lives. And for me, that sounds just fine. And I can't see why anyone would not want that. But then again, most TLers are young and don't really understand what it is to be like 80. (Myself included.)

Is this idealogy yours or have you been initiated into it? To think that it is the belief in a creator that has caused these troubles is naive and dangerous.

If you spend some time researching history, you will see that it is the manipulation behind the church/organized religions that is to blame. Orchestrating wars is only the tip of the iceberg with these people, mass manipulation is the true crime you should be upset out.

For more information or for an overview of what the future might be , your search words are: Novus ordo seclorum

On March 31 2013 16:00 FSUrequiem wrote:
I'm sorry in advance for anybody who is religious.

IMO (please keep this in mind) religion has caused so many problems in the world that as soon as everyone realizes it, they will stop being religious. Just think what would have happened if we all devoted our lives to science instead of gods. This could already be accomplished by now, and war would probably be non existant under the right circumstances.

Again, I'm sorry to all those who are religious, this is just my experience.

On March 31 2013 18:42 Celadan wrote:
Immortality is impossible as not even our universe is immortal or eternally sustainable, so no immortality wont ever happen.