EPTWill Science Unlock Immortality Before We Die? - Page 16
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Manit0u
Poland17756 Posts
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pmh
1416 Posts
True immortality will never be achieved,its physically impossible 2nd law of termo dynamics and such. Live for a long time yes,maybe 1000 years will be achieved one day. But we are still very far away from that i think,probably over 1000 year away. It would have enormous social and possibly economical implications,not all of which will be positive. If look at past 100 years,then there has not been made much progress in life expectancy. Sure average life gets longer but the oldest people are not getting that much older then they where 100 years ago or even 2000 years ago. Oldest person now is like 115 or so,born around 1900. I dont think people who are born now will make it to 130,lets make it 140 to be 100% safe. we wont see a confirmed 140 year old person in this century. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5177 Posts
I think with the correct use of metabolites, people might be able to live perhaps to 150 years. Couple that to the advances made with genes known to promote cell longevity, we could push 200 pretty soon. I think the huuuuuuge problem becomes the physical storage your brain has. Old memories blending with newer ones, older ones being erased for newer ones, quality of newly formed memories. Solve neurodegeneration before you solve ageing, because I don't want to see a world full of 150+ year old people all suffering from dementia, or dementia life features. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On October 18 2018 04:56 rotta wrote: YokoKano, is that you? Now I really wish I knew what they said before getting nuked. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On October 19 2018 08:09 Uldridge wrote: I don't know man. We have extreme knowledge on what control cell health at the moment. I think with the correct use of metabolites, people might be able to live perhaps to 150 years. Couple that to the advances made with genes known to promote cell longevity, we could push 200 pretty soon. I think the huuuuuuge problem becomes the physical storage your brain has. Old memories blending with newer ones, older ones being erased for newer ones, quality of newly formed memories. Solve neurodegeneration before you solve ageing, because I don't want to see a world full of 150+ year old people all suffering from dementia, or dementia life features. Well neurodegeneration is just a part of ageing, so one presumes that if the later is solved, so is the former. However it really is a race with time, we are all losing a percent of brain mass per year (some of us sadly more) and any reversal is even more of a wet dream than merely stopping it, so the older we are when ageing is stopped, the worse are we off. Then there is true dementia, which can come from a variety of causes - of which a lot is actually related to bad protein function, amyloid buildup and so on - and all these things are actually in general needed to be solved anyway (almost all people who lived over 100 had terminal or soon-to-be terminal amyloidosis at the time of death). So this is all kinda related to everything else. But then you have a valid point about the limited memory. Have you seen the Dr. Who arch with immortal Arya?  Anyway, nobody really knows how that would work, as it is simply not testable. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12467 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46006 Posts
On October 19 2018 18:00 Nebuchad wrote: If immortality is unlocked under a capitalist system we are so, so fucked It's just like that Billy Joel song: Only The Lower-And-Middle-Class Die Young... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
... 'cause cancer cells are immortal so we'll be too. | ||
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Oshuy
Netherlands529 Posts
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rSado
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On October 19 2018 18:00 Nebuchad wrote: If immortality is unlocked under a capitalist system we are so, so fucked It aint gonna be unlocked elsewhere. | ||
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
Tangentially related: I always find it incredibly ironic when people present themselves as secular humanists and rationalists and yet they have this complete faith in capitalism. They can't even conceive of an alternative system, basically demonstrating that capitalism is far from being the innovative force that it pretends to be since it stifles the imagination. I think it's fair to say we will sooner destroy ourselves than become disenchanted with this crypto-religious view that capitalism = freedom = innovation = "the future". Even as everything collapses around us, we'll keep saying that's just part of a healthy growth cycle. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4420 Posts
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12467 Posts
End of history and all that shit? :/ | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On the other hand it seems like humans will become a creator of AI and excellent robotics, which leads to a merger. And it all follows the same rule of evolution of species. Only merging would allow us to make long interplanetary travel possible, human body simply does not work properly in space. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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