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Men like attractive women because its a sign of a healthy body meaning said female is a viable potential mother. If her personality is not compatible then relationship will end. A woman is attracted to a man for his money because she is a self absorbed, lazy egotist and regardless of personalities the relationship continues until it is no longer beneficial financially for the woman or it is financially more beneficial to end it.
The two are vastly different and have been discussed extensively in social psychology
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it is bad because there is no up-front proof that the man in question earned the money by himself, which in turn would make him a good provider. having money means shit and should be treated as such but earning those money is somewhat a different matter.
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No Problem as long as you are the men with the money.
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On February 23 2013 19:04 xM(Z wrote: it is bad because there is no up-front proof that the man in question earned the money by himself, which in turn would make him a good provider. having money means shit and should be treated as such but earning those money is somewhat a different matter.
Why would it matter if the money is earned or not? lol.. I don't even...
edit** - the post below mine answers the OP pretty well imo.
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On February 23 2013 18:19 Meatex wrote: Men like attractive women because its a sign of a healthy body meaning said female is a viable potential mother. If her personality is not compatible then relationship will end. A woman is attracted to a man for his money because she is a self absorbed, lazy egotist and regardless of personalities the relationship continues until it is no longer beneficial financially for the woman or it is financially more beneficial to end it.
The two are vastly different and have been discussed extensively in social psychology
I like how you call upon social psychology, yet you are either completely wrong or just sarcastic.
Basic idea is that males, whether human or not, sexual economy is extensive, meaning they spread as much of their genetic material as they can. It doesn't cost them much, but they need a healthy carrier for their genetic material, this is why they search partners based on their looks. Looks in many cases mean health, but also women's ability to take care of herself, which may be transferred onto offspring.
Women and other females have intensive sexual economy, meaning they invest a lot into breeding. In case of humans they spend not only 9 months of pregnancy but also upbringing, which primarily draws on females health and biological strenght. This is why when searching for a partner, women look not only for looks (health), but primarily on ability to sustain her and her offspring during pregnancy and upbringing.
This is of course only one aspect and doesn't cover the whole subject. But it is basic social psychology theory on reproduction.
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On February 23 2013 19:13 Maand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 18:19 Meatex wrote: Men like attractive women because its a sign of a healthy body meaning said female is a viable potential mother. If her personality is not compatible then relationship will end. A woman is attracted to a man for his money because she is a self absorbed, lazy egotist and regardless of personalities the relationship continues until it is no longer beneficial financially for the woman or it is financially more beneficial to end it.
The two are vastly different and have been discussed extensively in social psychology
I like how you call upon social psychology, yet you are either completely wrong or just sarcastic. Basic idea is that males, whether human or not, sexual economy is extensive, meaning they spread as much of their genetic material as they can. It doesn't cost them much, but they need a healthy carrier for their genetic material, this is why they search partners based on their looks. Looks in many cases mean health, but also women's ability to take care of herself, which may be transferred onto offspring. Women and other females have intensive sexual economy, meaning they invest a lot into breeding. In case of humans they spend not only 9 months of pregnancy but also upbringing, which primarily draws on females health and biological strenght. This is why when searching for a partner, women look not only for looks (health), but primarily on ability to sustain her and her offspring during pregnancy and upbringing. This is of course only one aspect and doesn't cover the whole subject. But it is basic social psychology theory on reproduction.
That is not the point i'm arguing because the reality is that women are also attracted to men that appear healthy (base instincts) and yes women will consider security, meaning money, when deciding on whether a man is viable relationship material but relationship is NOT the subject of this discussion as I understand.
Its women being attracted to primarily money - so gold diggers as they would be called derogatorily. Where as physical attractiveness equating to healthiness is natural reproductive psychology a woman seeking out a male base solely for his wealth is not, its simple laziness meets greed
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Because having money is not something you gain through sheer willpower, but something you are basically born with or without for 99% of the population. In this regards, having money is not judged as something indicative of anything aside from the women's will to access some kind of comfort through her relationship. Being a gold digger means you are egoist or are with someone for purely egoistic reasons. Also, women that are paid to have sex are called whore.
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On February 23 2013 19:11 fearus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 19:04 xM(Z wrote: it is bad because there is no up-front proof that the man in question earned the money by himself, which in turn would make him a good provider. having money means shit and should be treated as such but earning those money is somewhat a different matter. Why would it matter if the money is earned or not? lol.. I don't even... edit** - the post below mine answers the OP pretty well imo. the answer is in my post. people were arguing that the choice to go for the man+money is an evolutionary sound one. i said it's not. a woman can just go for the money, she doesn't need the baggage, the man.
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Women who fall for men just because money and success (or if you want to put it nicely, "he provides security") are superficial and most likely wont result in happy relationship.
Men who fall for women just because their looks ( or if you want to put it nicely, look healthy and active) are superficial and most likely wont result in happy relationship.
No problem in my opinion to see ones wealth or looks as one upside though, if theres other things that interest you in the other person too.
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On February 23 2013 18:19 Meatex wrote: Men like attractive women because its a sign of a healthy body meaning said female is a viable potential mother. Correct.
A woman is attracted to a man for his money because she is a self absorbed, lazy egotist Dead wrong. A woman is attracted to a man of means because he can provide food for her and her babies. Understand that we haven't had social welfare for more than a few hundred years, but our genes have existed for a hundred millenia. Child mortality used to be extremely high. It was lower for children of men with great resources, thus giving women with a preference for rich men a strong evolutionary advantage.
The two are vastly different and have been discussed extensively in social psychology
The two are close to direct counterparts of each other and have been discussed extensively in evolutionary psychology.
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On February 22 2013 03:58 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2013 03:56 BruceLee6783 wrote:On February 22 2013 03:50 Tien wrote: I actually find men in general more superficial You had me until I read this. Why do you feel this way? Males care almost exclusively about looks when searching for a partner. Some research said I read somewhere a long time ago in some book.
Why is this superficial? I don't think anyone would tell you that looks are the most important part of a relationship, but if I assume that regardless of looks you are equally likely to be a nice/not nice person why on earth wouldn't I be narrowing my search by selecting initally on looks? Therefore if you ask a person what they're `searching' for, then after they say `a relationship' which entails all of the more important aspects, they will say `good-looks', because that's something that they value and that is a perfectly natural thing to want.
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On February 23 2013 23:37 gedatsu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 18:19 Meatex wrote: Men like attractive women because its a sign of a healthy body meaning said female is a viable potential mother. Correct. Show nested quote +A woman is attracted to a man for his money because she is a self absorbed, lazy egotist Dead wrong. A woman is attracted to a man of means because he can provide food for her and her babies. Understand that we haven't had social welfare for more than a few hundred years, but our genes have existed for a hundred millenia. Child mortality used to be extremely high. It was lower for children of men with great resources, thus giving women with a preference for rich men a strong evolutionary advantage. Show nested quote +The two are vastly different and have been discussed extensively in social psychology
The two are close to direct counterparts of each other and have been discussed extensively in evolutionary psychology. money is the provider.
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These are very basic attractive principles, but something I hope the mostly intelligent forum-goers and their ilk here would see beyond. If you're the type of man who "puts up" with a woman's bad traits simply because you like her body and if you are a woman who "puts up" with a man's bad traits because he has money, well then you are indeed shallow and lack the will to understand your desires.
From a pure economic sense this early human biology thing makes sense. But we don't live in a world where reproducing is the only goal. Those who do not think that happiness is one of the primary components of a relationship DOES not deserve my respect, or more exactly those who have willfully ignored that imperative. If you're meeting somebody for the first time and you find those traits attractive, well that's fine. But down the line you must look past those "superficial" qualities. It is not only bad for your future, but disrespectful to eachother. We can rationalize and customize so many things in relationships, why would you settle for an old model for an old world? Easy is hardly ever good. I understand that for some, it is a good model (provider/caretaker) going forward, but if we're talking about the changing world it is an anachronism.
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There's nothing wrong with liking a man for his money or liking a woman for her looks (or vice versa, of course). What's problematic is when these are the primary reasons for a relationship.
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On February 23 2013 07:12 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 07:11 MooMu wrote: "Men attracted to beautiful women because they will have attractive offspring. Is this a bad thing? Nope, personal preference."
I think men are attracted to beautiful women largely because they like to fuck beautiful women. Attractive offspring are a side benefit. why do you think we like to fuck beautiful women
Evolution.
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On February 23 2013 19:11 fearus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 19:04 xM(Z wrote: it is bad because there is no up-front proof that the man in question earned the money by himself, which in turn would make him a good provider. having money means shit and should be treated as such but earning those money is somewhat a different matter. Why would it matter if the money is earned or not? lol.. I don't even... edit** - the post below mine answers the OP pretty well imo.
Because most women are not attracted to spoiled guys who never grew up, have never worked a day in their lives, and inherited massive wealth. There are women who would go after to such a person. They are called gold diggers. They only care for the money. Most women are attracted to success, and this is an aspect of the man's personality. This is the distinction between gold diggers and the majority of women that so many people here are failing to realize.
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Women attracted to men with money because their lifestyle / children will be taken cared of.
Exactly how old is OP? Women who are attracted to men because of their money because they worry about their lifestyle needs to be at least 30 or something.
And I don't agree with your arguement with what you have to say about the male populace. Both sexes are attracted by looks more than anything. Males and Females both consider looks first, isn't this common sense?
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Though I personally find it an unattractive trait, I don't take issue with it so long as she in turn doesn't take issues with men who won't give a woman the time of day unless she's very good looking.
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On February 22 2013 03:54 1Dhalism wrote: Also money and success are a pretty good measure of character.
This is one of the more ridiculous things I've read on TL.
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I thought women were evolutionarily (is that a word?) supposed to look for partners that could protect and take care of them.. maybe the manifestation of that in modern society is a man with a lot of money. who knows.
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