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TirramirooO
Profile Joined May 2012
Portugal102 Posts
February 17 2013 17:49 GMT
#121
Oh man
Seriously i lost all the faith i had in human kind with all of your posts :\
Im not replying no more.
Bye
Live fast, die young and leave a good looking corpse !
Reedjr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
February 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#122
On February 18 2013 02:47 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:45 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:41 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Dude. The cop shot the guy 6 times and he was down. The cop then walks up probably 3-4 meters and shoots him twice in the head.

Are you out of your mind? Don't think he should be suspended? He should be on trial for murder.

You literally doubled the number of gunshot wounds mentioned in the autopsy. At no point was he ever shot in the head. Look at the facts next time.


I'm going off what I heard yesterday. How about you relax a little buddy? Does this take anything away from the fact that the cop runs up 3-4 meters and shoots the guy again? Nope!

It proves that instead of making yourself more knowledgeable about the situation, you'd rather just go with your gut and make absurdly incorrect statements. Did you even bother reading the official statement linked in the OP?
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 17 2013 17:50 GMT
#123
On February 18 2013 02:50 Reedjr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:47 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:45 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:41 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Dude. The cop shot the guy 6 times and he was down. The cop then walks up probably 3-4 meters and shoots him twice in the head.

Are you out of your mind? Don't think he should be suspended? He should be on trial for murder.

You literally doubled the number of gunshot wounds mentioned in the autopsy. At no point was he ever shot in the head. Look at the facts next time.


I'm going off what I heard yesterday. How about you relax a little buddy? Does this take anything away from the fact that the cop runs up 3-4 meters and shoots the guy again? Nope!

It proves that instead of making yourself more knowledgeable about the situation, you'd rather just go with your gut and make absurdly incorrect statements. Did you even bother reading the official statement linked in the OP?


You are the definition of a negative nancy. Enjoy that.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Reedjr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
February 17 2013 17:52 GMT
#124
On February 18 2013 02:50 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:50 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:47 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:45 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:41 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Dude. The cop shot the guy 6 times and he was down. The cop then walks up probably 3-4 meters and shoots him twice in the head.

Are you out of your mind? Don't think he should be suspended? He should be on trial for murder.

You literally doubled the number of gunshot wounds mentioned in the autopsy. At no point was he ever shot in the head. Look at the facts next time.


I'm going off what I heard yesterday. How about you relax a little buddy? Does this take anything away from the fact that the cop runs up 3-4 meters and shoots the guy again? Nope!

It proves that instead of making yourself more knowledgeable about the situation, you'd rather just go with your gut and make absurdly incorrect statements. Did you even bother reading the official statement linked in the OP?


You are the definition of a negative nancy. Enjoy that.


If "negative nancy" means I don't believe everything I'm told by youtube, I think I'm quite happy with that.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 17 2013 17:53 GMT
#125
On February 18 2013 02:52 Reedjr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:50 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:50 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:47 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:45 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:41 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Dude. The cop shot the guy 6 times and he was down. The cop then walks up probably 3-4 meters and shoots him twice in the head.

Are you out of your mind? Don't think he should be suspended? He should be on trial for murder.

You literally doubled the number of gunshot wounds mentioned in the autopsy. At no point was he ever shot in the head. Look at the facts next time.


I'm going off what I heard yesterday. How about you relax a little buddy? Does this take anything away from the fact that the cop runs up 3-4 meters and shoots the guy again? Nope!

It proves that instead of making yourself more knowledgeable about the situation, you'd rather just go with your gut and make absurdly incorrect statements. Did you even bother reading the official statement linked in the OP?


You are the definition of a negative nancy. Enjoy that.


If "negative nancy" means I don't believe everything I'm told by youtube, I think I'm quite happy with that.


Yeah man, sorry that I went off what was written on the video in the main page of the OP. I'm like, soooooooooooooo sorry master reedjr. Next time I'll be sure to read everything before I reply with a statement that was correct based off of what I saw.

(negative nancy)
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
February 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#126
On February 18 2013 02:53 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:52 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:50 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:50 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:47 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:45 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:41 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Dude. The cop shot the guy 6 times and he was down. The cop then walks up probably 3-4 meters and shoots him twice in the head.

Are you out of your mind? Don't think he should be suspended? He should be on trial for murder.

You literally doubled the number of gunshot wounds mentioned in the autopsy. At no point was he ever shot in the head. Look at the facts next time.


I'm going off what I heard yesterday. How about you relax a little buddy? Does this take anything away from the fact that the cop runs up 3-4 meters and shoots the guy again? Nope!

It proves that instead of making yourself more knowledgeable about the situation, you'd rather just go with your gut and make absurdly incorrect statements. Did you even bother reading the official statement linked in the OP?


You are the definition of a negative nancy. Enjoy that.


If "negative nancy" means I don't believe everything I'm told by youtube, I think I'm quite happy with that.


Yeah man, sorry that I went off what was written on the video in the main page of the OP. I'm like, soooooooooooooo sorry master reedjr. Next time I'll be sure to read everything before I reply with a statement that was correct based off of what I saw.

(negative nancy)


Bro. Facts are important. You got them wrong, and you got called out for it. Don't get all hurt just because you were wrong. Your point's still partially valid - was the deputy wrong to fire upon Cuevas after he was on the ground? But you should make yourself aware of the circumstances first.
TerribleNoobling
Profile Joined July 2010
Azerbaijan179 Posts
February 17 2013 18:02 GMT
#127
Here's another thing : all but one of the shots were in the guys back. You can see on the video the cop shoots the guy TWICE when he's down. So one of those shots was in the guy's back, while he's already shot 4 times and on the ground.

Murder. Clearly murder.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
February 17 2013 18:03 GMT
#128
On February 18 2013 03:01 Warlock40 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:53 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:52 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:50 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:50 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:47 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:45 Reedjr wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:41 PanN wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Dude. The cop shot the guy 6 times and he was down. The cop then walks up probably 3-4 meters and shoots him twice in the head.

Are you out of your mind? Don't think he should be suspended? He should be on trial for murder.

You literally doubled the number of gunshot wounds mentioned in the autopsy. At no point was he ever shot in the head. Look at the facts next time.


I'm going off what I heard yesterday. How about you relax a little buddy? Does this take anything away from the fact that the cop runs up 3-4 meters and shoots the guy again? Nope!

It proves that instead of making yourself more knowledgeable about the situation, you'd rather just go with your gut and make absurdly incorrect statements. Did you even bother reading the official statement linked in the OP?


You are the definition of a negative nancy. Enjoy that.


If "negative nancy" means I don't believe everything I'm told by youtube, I think I'm quite happy with that.


Yeah man, sorry that I went off what was written on the video in the main page of the OP. I'm like, soooooooooooooo sorry master reedjr. Next time I'll be sure to read everything before I reply with a statement that was correct based off of what I saw.

(negative nancy)


Bro. Facts are important. You got them wrong, and you got called out for it. Don't get all hurt just because you were wrong. Your point's still partially valid - was the deputy wrong to fire upon Cuevas after he was on the ground? But you should make yourself aware of the circumstances first.


Dude, I went off the video on the main page of this thread. I have no problem with being wrong, the number of shots have nothing to do with what I'm concerned about anyway. Which is him going up to him and shooting him again after he was on the ground likely dying.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
February 17 2013 18:05 GMT
#129
On February 17 2013 14:10 WritersBlock wrote:
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On February 17 2013 13:53 ETisME wrote:
On February 17 2013 13:48 Joedaddy wrote:
The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me. I can not imagine a scenario where I run away from a police officer. Probably because I don't do anything illegal or have anything to hide.

I guess I'm a long ways from being under the hipster umbrella when it comes to police shootings. The first thing I think when I read this kind of thing is that the person shot by the cops was most likely involved in activities worthy of punishment and the world is better off without them.

If the incident was investigated, and the cop was found innocent of any wrong doing then my hats off to him/her. Glad you made it home safe another night.

he was drunk and wasn't even walking straight, I can imagine a LOT of people would start running if the police/stranger shouting and telling you to stop, especially once you see him pulling his gun out and start shooting at you

No most people don't try to run and pull a gun when a cop pulls over next to them. Your imagination must match the magnitude of your ignorance and exceed your ability to reason. Being drunk doesn't mean it's alright to do stupid shit like run from the police. I'd love to see the asshole above me who calls officers pigs try to live in a world without any. People are so fucking ungrateful for police that put their lives on the line everyday to protect lawful citizens that it makes me sick.

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On February 17 2013 14:02 NotYetAWoman wrote:
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User was warned for this post


Really? Just a warning? I remember when this forum was moderated competently...

User was temp banned for this post.


That hilariously backfired :D Martyring like a boss lol

Anyway, it is suspicious there were no fingerprints on the gun. There are really only two conclusions, there was a gun at the scene and the cop did what was right or the gun was planted and the cop overreacted, panicked and realized he best plant a gun. First seems more likely.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
February 17 2013 18:05 GMT
#130
That report in the OP is fucked up. Kid lying on ground, shot 3 times, cop screaming at him to 'show his hands', then shooting him in the back, AGAIN, when he fails to comply.

Hmm, maybe being shot 3 times made it difficult to comply?
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
February 17 2013 18:07 GMT
#131
On February 18 2013 03:05 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 14:10 WritersBlock wrote:
On February 17 2013 13:53 ETisME wrote:
On February 17 2013 13:48 Joedaddy wrote:
The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me. I can not imagine a scenario where I run away from a police officer. Probably because I don't do anything illegal or have anything to hide.

I guess I'm a long ways from being under the hipster umbrella when it comes to police shootings. The first thing I think when I read this kind of thing is that the person shot by the cops was most likely involved in activities worthy of punishment and the world is better off without them.

If the incident was investigated, and the cop was found innocent of any wrong doing then my hats off to him/her. Glad you made it home safe another night.

he was drunk and wasn't even walking straight, I can imagine a LOT of people would start running if the police/stranger shouting and telling you to stop, especially once you see him pulling his gun out and start shooting at you

No most people don't try to run and pull a gun when a cop pulls over next to them. Your imagination must match the magnitude of your ignorance and exceed your ability to reason. Being drunk doesn't mean it's alright to do stupid shit like run from the police. I'd love to see the asshole above me who calls officers pigs try to live in a world without any. People are so fucking ungrateful for police that put their lives on the line everyday to protect lawful citizens that it makes me sick.

On February 17 2013 14:02 NotYetAWoman wrote:
[image loading]

User was warned for this post


Really? Just a warning? I remember when this forum was moderated competently...

User was temp banned for this post.


That hilariously backfired :D Martyring like a boss lol

Anyway, it is suspicious there were no fingerprints on the gun. There are really only two conclusions, there was a gun at the scene and the cop did what was right or the gun was planted and the cop overreacted, panicked and realized he best plant a gun. First seems more likely.


There are certainly other options that aren't so black and white.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 18:16:03
February 17 2013 18:14 GMT
#132
Moral of the story: If you don't do stupid shit that is illegal (for good reason) in the first place, you won't have to run from the police and end up getting shot.

Any news on how many warrents were already out for this guy? I'm guessing at least 2 and multiple arrests/convictions.

Also, the articles have made it clear that the guy had a gun on him, and that the officer saw it before he fired anything.

Me and 4 of my buddies got pulled over for Jaywalking once exactly like this. Not a single one of us thought that running the fuck away was a good idea.

Some people actually do deserve what they get, a lot of people with rose colored glasses on here.
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mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
February 17 2013 18:16 GMT
#133
On February 18 2013 03:14 Figgy wrote:
Moral of the story: If you don't do stupid shit that is illegal (for good reason) in the first place, you won't have to run from the police and end up getting shot.

Any news on how many warrents were already out for this guy? I'm guessing at least 2 and multiple arrests/convictions.

Also, the articles have made it clear that the guy had a gun on him, and that the officer saw it before he fired anything.

Me and 4 of my buddies got pulled over for Jaywalking once exactly like this. Not a single one of us thought that fucking running away was a good idea.

Some people actually do deserve what they get, a lot of people with rose colored glasses on here.


I'm guessing you're not a Latino who lives in LA.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
February 17 2013 18:18 GMT
#134
On February 18 2013 03:16 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 03:14 Figgy wrote:
Moral of the story: If you don't do stupid shit that is illegal (for good reason) in the first place, you won't have to run from the police and end up getting shot.

Any news on how many warrents were already out for this guy? I'm guessing at least 2 and multiple arrests/convictions.

Also, the articles have made it clear that the guy had a gun on him, and that the officer saw it before he fired anything.

Me and 4 of my buddies got pulled over for Jaywalking once exactly like this. Not a single one of us thought that fucking running away was a good idea.

Some people actually do deserve what they get, a lot of people with rose colored glasses on here.


I'm guessing you're not a Latino who lives in LA.


So you're saying all the latinos are dealing in drugs/murder or the police are all horribly racist?

Both of those statements are pretty terrible to make.
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FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
February 17 2013 18:19 GMT
#135
This thread really brings out some emotional responses driven by gut reaction more than "all things considered" reason. It's understandable but sort of prohibitive to having a decent discussion.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 17 2013 18:27 GMT
#136
On February 18 2013 02:46 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:43 TirramirooO wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Another one :\ oh god please start the armagedon already

I gonna explain you something... The guy was on the ground and the policeman walks towards him and shoot him while the guy was on the ground with 3 bullets in his BODY..

Did you understand??

When you shoot, you shoot to kill. Whether he was shot once, ten times, a hundred times, the intention of police drawing a weapon is the same.

But this is the Internet people think police are crack shots can shoot someone in the hand from 100 meters away! I don't think many people on the Internet has ever fired a handgun before, or in possibly life threatening situations in which you fire in volleys of 3-5 shots because you never expect all your shots to actually hit the target. Really people should count decisions to shot in which i think he only made twice.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
February 17 2013 18:30 GMT
#137
On February 18 2013 03:18 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 03:16 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
On February 18 2013 03:14 Figgy wrote:
Moral of the story: If you don't do stupid shit that is illegal (for good reason) in the first place, you won't have to run from the police and end up getting shot.

Any news on how many warrents were already out for this guy? I'm guessing at least 2 and multiple arrests/convictions.

Also, the articles have made it clear that the guy had a gun on him, and that the officer saw it before he fired anything.

Me and 4 of my buddies got pulled over for Jaywalking once exactly like this. Not a single one of us thought that fucking running away was a good idea.

Some people actually do deserve what they get, a lot of people with rose colored glasses on here.


I'm guessing you're not a Latino who lives in LA.


So you're saying all the latinos are dealing in drugs/murder or the police are all horribly racist?

Both of those statements are pretty terrible to make.


I didn't say either of those things, but thanks for putting words in my mouth.

What I'm saying is this: The kids involved in this incident live in a totally different world than you do. Their circumstances, options, and choices are things that you can't really understand. I'm not implying you are automatically blameless simply by being a minority in LA, or even that these kids specifically didn't act poorly. Still, their unique circumstances make your snap judgements and assumptions about their character quite unfair.

Also, by assuming that this guy has multiple 'warrents' and arrests and convictions based on the information at hand, you come across as slightly racist.
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 18:35:37
February 17 2013 18:30 GMT
#138
Anyway, it is suspicious there were no fingerprints on the gun. There are really only two conclusions, there was a gun at the scene and the cop did what was right or the gun was planted and the cop overreacted, panicked and realized he best plant a gun. First seems more likely.


If the gun was planted, the second deputy would have had to be in on it as well, the odds of which seem unlikely.

That report in the OP is fucked up. Kid lying on ground, shot 3 times, cop screaming at him to 'show his hands', then shooting him in the back, AGAIN, when he fails to comply.

Hmm, maybe being shot 3 times made it difficult to comply?


Yeah, this part is really fishy, which is why I think it's absolutely absurd that Deputy Jove's statement is being treated as fact by the investigators when it doesn't seem to add up.

Shooting at a fleeing "suspect" who is armed and not complying with instructions - we'll accept that for now. But according to his own statement and as shown in the video, Deputy Jove ran up to Cuevas, on the ground at this point, and was standing over him. At this point, he had already fired three rounds, at least one of which had struck Cuevas, and at least one of which was fatal. ("fatal" in the report seems to imply that even with medical treatment, Cuevas would have died.) So at this point, Cuevas is already a dead man.

Here's what doesn't add up:

Deputy Jove sees the gun. In the report, it says he did not go for it because it would leave him exposed to Campos and Villa. However, at the time when Deputy Jove was confronting Cuevas on the ground, Deputy Levang had already arrived on site. So what was going on here?

Second question. The first three shots were at a running Cuevas; the last three shots were at Cuevas while on the ground. Jove justifies the last three by saying Cuevas did not move his hands above his head, instead rolling around and moving his hands "for the gun". But it seems odd to expect a man who has just sustained at least one lethal gunshot wound to not move on the ground and not try to examine it with his hands.

Third question. Jove fired three shots while Cuevas was on the ground but believed only one of them hit. Seriously? A deputy trained in the use of firearms, standing over a person on the ground, only hit his target once out of three shots?

Fourth question. After the sixth shot, four of which connected with Cuevas, his only reaction was "Alright already, alright"? Was he in so much pain that the final shots didn't register to him, or did he just shrug it off, like "oh alright, ya got me"?

EDIT: The report is rather vague about when exactly Deputy Levang arrived. When he arrived, Cuevas was already on the ground, Jove was still shouting at him, and Cuevas still had a gun. But was this before Jove's last three shots or after?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
February 17 2013 18:31 GMT
#139
On February 18 2013 03:27 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:46 Dfgj wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:43 TirramirooO wrote:
On February 18 2013 02:38 Hyperbola wrote:
Thing is, cops have to react fast. If you tell cops that they will be prosecuted for shooting a man with a gun then you are making them panic and putting lives in danger. This cop did shoot a few too many but I don't think he should be suspended for doing his job.


Another one :\ oh god please start the armagedon already

I gonna explain you something... The guy was on the ground and the policeman walks towards him and shoot him while the guy was on the ground with 3 bullets in his BODY..

Did you understand??

When you shoot, you shoot to kill. Whether he was shot once, ten times, a hundred times, the intention of police drawing a weapon is the same.

But this is the Internet people think police are crack shots can shoot someone in the hand from 100 meters away! I don't think many people on the Internet has ever fired a handgun before, or in possibly life threatening situations in which you fire in volleys of 3-5 shots because you never expect all your shots to actually hit the target. Really people should count decisions to shot in which i think he only made twice.

It's just one of those things. Hating cops is easy. Considering the possibility that cops make mistakes often, and that real time decision making sometimes requires imperfect responses, that is hard.
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February 17 2013 18:36 GMT
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On February 17 2013 22:53 Bam Lee wrote:
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On February 17 2013 22:00 Zerothegreat wrote:
On February 17 2013 21:45 Notfragile wrote:
On February 17 2013 15:05 PanN wrote:
I can understand the six shots if he's certain the dude had a gun. But walking up and shooting him in the head? What?


Exactly this. Is everyone in this thread so blind? Both pro and anti LAPD.

Main debate: IF the officer thought he was threatened (highly possible) should it be reasonable to shoot him or not?

Why the hell is everyone ignoring that the cop ran to the dying dude and shot him point blank, when he was flat on the pavement and immobile (after the cop approached him)? He had a clear view on the suspect, who did not move. He standed there for a couple of seconds and THEN he shot him dead. That's execution, it's no self defense. And everyone is freaking out about the start of the shooting? That policeman was out for blood and this clip proves it.

And yes, if you are shot 3 times, you will be moving and you will not be behaving "rationally". Pulling your hands over your head, etc. The person on the pavement was shot, in pain and the cop thought that HIMSELF was in danger???


It's easy to rationalize things behind a computer, while safely at your desk.

Let's put ourselves in the cop's position though... Now if you are in the middle of a dark LA street with 3 guys and one is attempting to pull a gun on you (or at least it seems like) would your adrenaline and survival instincts kick in?

I for one would not wait to be shot at to pull my gun out either. One shot to your head and you would never have the chance to fire back. I'm sorry but I would do anything to take precautions and protect myself. Do you know how many cops get killed trying to protect people?


Shouldn't the police be trained to be capable of dealing with such situations? Shouldn't policemen be able to assess situations like that correctly with a calm head? Haven't they been prepared for something like that?

I mean seriously he shot him several times and then walked up to him to deliver the killing blow. After shooting him down he had enough time to clear his mind and think about what to do. He walked up and killed him. There is no excuse for that. I can understand why he shot him several times, but there is simply no excuse for walking up to him and EXECUTING him. You cant just say that his survival instinct kicked in and he had ot kill him. If that is the case then this guy shouldnt be a cop in the first place.


Did anyone in this thread... actually...read...the article? Or watch the video in response to the article?

It's pretty bloody clear what happened, and the officer was definitely not in the wrong.

The dude who got shot's buddy even told the inquiry he probably ran because he was holding a gun in his waistband.

Read the articles and watch the videos before you say ANYTHING so utterly ridiculous. Don't come in without even reading the thread and spew absolute bullshit.
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