EPTMaybe I'm a bit cynical but I truly believe that most girls (especially of the 25 and under variety) are like cats. The only real solution that I've found is trying to build a great life with girls being only a tiny part of the equation. Girls come and go and maybe a real special one will pop up two or three times in a lifetime. What I'm trying to say is, I think I want a dog.
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lannisport
878 Posts
Maybe I'm a bit cynical but I truly believe that most girls (especially of the 25 and under variety) are like cats. The only real solution that I've found is trying to build a great life with girls being only a tiny part of the equation. Girls come and go and maybe a real special one will pop up two or three times in a lifetime. What I'm trying to say is, I think I want a dog. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On February 18 2013 03:38 lannisport wrote: This is the most depressing thread on TL. I think that men are like dogs-- they're kind of stupid sometimes, very predictable but fiercely loyal. You know what to expect from them and you understand why they go about humping this or that because they do it for obvious clear cut reasons. Girls on the other hand are more like cats-- At times aloof, not very loyal and very unpredictable. It extends its belly because it wants to be rubbed but once you do it bites you. When you're alone with it, it shows great affection purring contently and kneading its head against your chest but as soon as somebody else walks in its best friends with him. And when you want to play with it it runs away but when you're fucking busy it shows up out of nowhere and starts rubbing against your legs and purring. Maybe I'm a bit cynical but I truly believe that most girls (especially of the 25 and under variety) are like cats. The only real solution that I've found is trying to build a great life with girls being only a tiny part of the equation. Girls come and go and maybe a real special one will pop up two or three times in a lifetime. What I'm trying to say is, I think I want a dog. Well you have to realize that it up to you to be that awesome dude that she was attracted to in the first place. My advice to you is that if you run of 'awesome' juice in you, the best decision would to be the first one to initiate the breakup so your feelings won't eventually get hurt by her. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On February 18 2013 02:39 SamsungStar wrote: LOL sexist?? What exactly is sexist about it? If the story was that the old mother ran away with some handsome studly 25 yr old cabana boy she met on a cruise ship, I could 100% understand her logic. Running away with a childhood boyfriend who is probably the same age if not older than her current husband and marginally better looking makes no sense to me. Unless he grew very wealthy in all those intervening years. That part wasn't mentioned so I have no way of knowing. Stfu with the sexism crap. At no point in my post did I say guys get a free pass for cheating. I said it made SENSE on a logical level. Learn to read Naj. Are regrets really that hard to understand? Or are you too young to regret people who you cared about but who disappeared for various reasons? It is a selfish act, but it is somewhat "logical" nonetheless. In fact, I'd say it isn't as worse as cheating just for the sex. In this case, love and hope are involved. I find it odd that you can easily understand how someone could misbehave because of sex, but not because of romantic feelings and fond memories. On February 18 2013 03:38 lannisport wrote: This is the most depressing thread on TL. I think that men are like dogs-- they're kind of stupid sometimes, very predictable but fiercely loyal. You know what to expect from them and you understand why they go about humping this or that because they do it for obvious clear cut reasons. Girls on the other hand are more like cats-- At times aloof, not very loyal and very unpredictable. The first step towards less foreveraloneness is to realize that men and women aren't that different from each other. When you're making statements as blunt as saying "men are like dogs, women are like cats", you're simply generalizing the very few relationships you've witnessed. | ||
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Xahhk
Canada540 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:41 Kukaracha wrote: Are regrets really that hard to understand? Or are you too young to regret people who you cared about but who disappeared for various reasons? It is a selfish act, but it is somewhat "logical" nonetheless. In fact, I'd say it isn't as worse as cheating just for the sex. In this case, love and hope are involved. I find it odd that you can easily understand how someone could misbehave because of sex, but not because of romantic feelings and fond memories. The first step towards less foreveraloneness is to realize that men and women aren't that different from each other. When you're making statements as blunt as saying "men are like dogs, women are like cats", you're simply generalizing the very few relationships you've witnessed. This, men and women are largely the same on average, at the least it doesn't do you too good to think of them as completely different. Whether guys elevate women to unicorn status, and try to win them over with chivalrous tactics but then are bitter when it doesn't work.. OR women who expect other specific unrealistic things... you should really just focus on being confident and interesting and build things from there. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:21 Xiphos wrote: Well you have to realize that it up to you to be that awesome dude that she was attracted to in the first place. My advice to you is that if you run of 'awesome' juice in you, the best decision would to be the first one to initiate the breakup so your feelings won't eventually get hurt by her. /facepalm. Basically, you're agreeing that women still operate off of the instinctive notion of finding the best quality sperm at any given moment, and intellectual concepts like loyalty, love, dedication, perseverance etc are completely ignored. Marriage vows used to be considered sacred and there were serious social repercussions for ALL parties involved when divorcing. Nowadays, it is a joke, and an invitation for women to take half your shit and write a lawyer's paycheck for the year in the process. Just look at what some of the people in this thread have said. Micronesia posted a story about a woman who fucking ran off and left her family of 30+ years in the lurch on a moment's notice. And some brilliant genius had the balls to say that sounded like a romantic story. Could you imagine if it was the father running off with some hot little 22 year old? Would you consider that a romantic story? I wonder what women would have said about a man like that. Oh wait, I already know what they would say. It's what they always say when a man does something like this. "Pig, animal, beast, pervert, asshole, jerk," etc. Yet, when women do it, none of these things are said. They're liberated, empowered, they should have a choice in who they want to be with, etc. Why? Because women do these things for subtler reasons? Because they "fell out of love" with their old partner? The "excitement" was gone? Have you ever heard a man say I left my wife because she wasn't "exciting" anymore? I left my kids because I had to follow my heart? Any man who did something like that would be crucified at the stake by society and the legal system. This is my problem with feminism. It has nothing to do with equality anymore, and everything to do with just outright favoritism. In 21st century America, in the Millenial generation, women have a ridiculous advantage. I, for one, am moving to another country where the culture isn't quite as poisonous towards men. | ||
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Warlock40
601 Posts
The first step towards less foreveraloneness is to realize that men and women aren't that different from each other. When you're making statements as blunt as saying "men are like dogs, women are like cats", you're simply generalizing the very few relationships you've witnessed. But there are striking differences between male and female mating behavior, in humans just as in many other species. This is scientific fact that goes beyond just societal norms and constraints. Yet, when women do it, none of these things are said. They're liberated, empowered, they should have a choice in who they want to be with, etc. Why? Because women do these things for subtler reasons? Because they "fell out of love" with their old partner? The "excitement" was gone? Have you ever heard a man say I left my wife because she wasn't "exciting" anymore? I left my kids because I had to follow my heart? Any man who did something like that would be crucified at the stake by society and the legal system. Of course this is a heavy over-generalisation, but there is some truth here. In literature, it seems women who leave a stable marriage for excitement are liberating themselves, while men who do the same are being selfish and abandoning their responsibilities. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
I'm not sure what's worse, the terrible story you tell or the guys who jump to conclusions, generalize the entire female sex and demonize every sexual act ever "perpetrated" by a member of the fairer sex. There's 3 about billion women on the planet, obviously there are a couple cold hearted whores. If you don't believe there are decent, lovely ladies out there who share your idea of a relationship, what's the point of it all? | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
My girlfriend and I had been together about three years, but I started to not feel the same way anymore. We had been very serious even only being together for three years, had discussed a future, marriage, children, etc... but things just were different. All the things I used to ignore or not let bother me, were becoming more and more cumbersome and annoying. Her quirks, and general "bossiness" was extremely aggravating, and the stuff we used to do, just kind of changed. Anyways, as I was dealing with my feelings, I had kind of decided I was going to end it, but not right away. She was changing her program at university and changing to a college/university course for nursing, which would require her to move back to the city we came from. I planned to end it around that time that those things were finalized. The only person I had expressed this to, was a friend I had on Facebook. Now, one day at her work, she had one of her co-workers reveal that she had been cheated on. My ex, being paranoid, went onto my Facebook that night while I was in the bedroom, and discovered my message to my friend indicating that my feelings had changed and figured I was going to end it soon. Understandably, she was extremely upset. She had tried to talk about changing, and giving her a second chance to fix things, but under my theories regarding things, I couldn't put that on her. She got very cold to me after that, because I had refused a second chance, and she continued to live with me until it came time for her to move. Like I said, not the "worst" but definitely a really bad way to find out/experience. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:41 Kukaracha wrote: Are regrets really that hard to understand? Or are you too young to regret people who you cared about but who disappeared for various reasons? It is a selfish act, but it is somewhat "logical" nonetheless. In fact, I'd say it isn't as worse as cheating just for the sex. In this case, love and hope are involved. I find it odd that you can easily understand how someone could misbehave because of sex, but not because of romantic feelings and fond memories. The first step towards less foreveraloneness is to realize that men and women aren't that different from each other. When you're making statements as blunt as saying "men are like dogs, women are like cats", you're simply generalizing the very few relationships you've witnessed. Regrets? What a crock of shit. You spend 30+ years with a guy, you have kids with him, you see it to the bitter end. It's what I would do if I had a wife. Even if I was pining for some other girl on the side, I'd keep it together and do what was right. Because that's what my wife earned over her 30+ years of loyalty. She earned mine. There is nothing logical about feelings. There is nothing logical about chasing something that could disappear at the drop of a hat. Idiotic notions like love and hope are exactly the reason modern society is decaying. I'll take righteousness and pragmatism over love and hope any day of the year. Corruption of the soul, catering to the lowest common denominator, and an absolute capitulation to every base and immediate desire is not a life worth living. P.S. I say this as an atheist. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:52 kafkaesque wrote: Gotta stop reading this horrid thread. I'm not sure what's worse, the terrible story you tell or the guys who jump to conclusions, generalize the entire female sex and demonize every sexual act ever "perpetrated" by a member of the fairer sex. There's 3 about billion women on the planet, obviously there are a couple cold hearted whores. If you don't believe there are decent, lovely ladies out there who share your idea of a relationship, what's the point of it all? Nobody ever said there isn't any decent women. I think there are plenty. But I do think the supply of them in America is dwindling by the day, and a lot of that has to do with advances in comm. tech and social influences. | ||
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Warlock40
601 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:55 SamsungStar wrote: Regrets? What a crock of shit. You spend 30+ years with a guy, you have kids with him, you see it to the bitter end. It's what I would do if I had a wife. Even if I was pining for some other girl on the side, I'd keep it together and do what was right. Because that's what my wife earned over her 30+ years of loyalty. She earned mine. There is nothing logical about feelings. There is nothing logical about chasing something that could disappear at the drop of a hat. Idiotic notions like love and hope are exactly the reason modern society is decaying. I'll take righteousness and pragmatism over love and hope any day of the year. Corruption of the soul, catering to the lowest common denominator, and an absolute capitulation to every base and immediate desire is not a life worth living. P.S. I say this as an atheist. Have you read Anna Karenina? | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:49 Warlock40 wrote: But there are striking differences between male and female mating behavior, in humans just as in many other species. This is scientific fact that goes beyond just societal norms and constraints. Of course this is a heavy over-generalisation, but there is some truth here. In literature, it seems women who leave a stable marriage for excitement are liberating themselves, while men who do the same are being selfish and abandoning their responsibilities. It's a generalization, but by its nature it has to be one because I'm talking about societal biases and normative views. In literature, in media, in entertainment, everywhere you see this pervasive notion of female sexual empowerment giving them free license to act without morals or conscience. And their justification for doing so is that all men are cheating pigs who will drop you at any moment for a younger, hotter, kinkier woman, so you might as well play him to the hilt and beat him at his own game. At no point in this conversation is it said that there are decent guys out there. In fact, all I ever hear women say about decent men is "yeah... he's nice, but he's kind of boring :\." Then they go right back out to find a bad boy who yes will do exactly what the women say he will do, which is cheat, slut about, and drop her for a younger, hotter chick as soon as he can. Yet, as I shake my head, I see guys running in this thread ready to white-knight and claim that this is all just sexist hate-ranting, not seeming to realize that this is no more than a feeble counterpunch to the massive amounts of man-hating women engage in at every level of discourse in society. What I will say, as a caveat, is that I have only ever had relationships with attractive, fit women. I'm sorry, but I've just never been able to get myself to date a less attractive woman. Now, that being said, I think I am doing the male equivalent of girls who only date bad-boys. Because the majority of good looking girls tend to have bad habits. Why? Because they are allowed to get away with it. Therefore, they learn by experience or from their mothers that they can walk all over men. So, I am probably just bitching about a specific subset of the female population when there are other, more decent, women out there. But they're probably not as hot  .I guess this is just the way the game is played. My plan, as I said earlier, is to take my high social and material currency, take it to a less competitive market (Asia), and hook up with a more traditional girl who is mega hot but comes without the baggage of American women. The majority of my guy friends who have done this exact thing seem WAY happier than my friends who have stuck with American girls. And ALL of these guys were great at getting dates/hooking up with women in the states. They're not pasty-faced neckbeards who go to Asia to become English teachers. They're corporate execs, white-collar professionals, lawyers, businessmen, etc. Only two of them married American girls. One of them is an alcoholic now. The other abuses pharmaceuticals. The ones who married foreign girls have children, got a little fatter, and always have a smile on their face and a joke to tell. | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On February 18 2013 05:13 phosphorylation wrote: this might sound bit too much like dick-sucking, but samsungstar, i really like the way you think/articulate and i would buy you a beer if we ever met. haha thanks man. It's just a topic I feel strongly about, as is probably obvious. I'm in Florida atm, but if I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'll look you up :D | ||
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Crying
Bulgaria778 Posts
If there wasn't a women to come to your life and change you/decimate you,i would be the same person,the same person who is doing everything all up and nice,and at the end gets broken up inside,because he thought everything was beautiful. It's true,girls WANT AND SEEK men with power,nice car,good bank check and a nice house.Their BIOLOGICAL clock inside of them is ticking and they want children at the end,children that would need money and safety to be born and raised. It's not random that women of beauty that were in the prehistoric years were seeking the strongest men,because they simply would have been able to bring them safety and have children. However in 21 Century,you don't have animals wild cats aligators and such to be defended from,you now have a huge society that is consisted of people and particularly of people battling for jobs,careers,prosperity.We live in a century of uncertainty.Women wont SAFETY AND HIGH VALUE. If you cannot bring this,you would never be able to succeed with women. Give me one example of a high quality women,who is for instance a singer,star,celebrity that dates the guy living in a cheap part of the town,driving a 1000$ car,and is close to poverty?Well this would never happen,we live in reality,not movies. Part of me want to say that women are BITCHES,no,no don't spell it like that.They have instincts that they follow,its quite sad,quite indeed sad they follow such a first signal instincts,but oh well,our brain works because of our internal systems,so as a emotional individual you wouldn't be able to function without these first signal systems,you will eventually DIE. Beautiful LOVE between two people exists really rarely,i mean fucking rarely...Again this is not the movies,its real life,where things happen.By default people lie to each other about so many things,they hide so many things in a relationship,their past,their TRUE desires,their SEX FANTASIES even.Is that fucking normal to you?To lie to the person that you wake up to next every day?Well this is twisted and wrong on so many levels. My ex said something that totally fucked me up "I cannot like a quality in you,that i dislike in myself". Also i thought it would be great to be 100% honest about everything,guess what 100% honesty didn't work,i only distanced her from myself,until when it was all over | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
December 23rd 2012, I got dumped by my gf, with whom I was (technically) engaged. We had been together for over 7 years. I was never given the impression that things were as bad as they were for her, she never displayed it. The night before, we went out and had a good time and then some. And suddenly, Dec 23rd, she coldly announces to me that we're done. Empty chair at the xmas party, family hadn't heard about it so they were cracking jokes and I didn't have to heart to tell them what had happened. At no point did I feel like things were going downhill in any relevant way, so when she announced it to me I was still pretty convinced that I was marrying this girl and that I was going to live my whole life with her, and that she'd have my kids. I had our honeymoon planned. Needless to say, I didn't see that coming. She wants to be friends and I can't handle that. She calls me and says she misses me, which plants seeds of hope in my tiny brain, but I know that I shouldn't count on that. | ||
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sparkk51
United States137 Posts
On February 18 2013 03:38 lannisport wrote: This is the most depressing thread on TL. I think that men are like dogs-- they're kind of stupid sometimes, very predictable but fiercely loyal. You know what to expect from them and you understand why they go about humping this or that because they do it for obvious clear cut reasons. Girls on the other hand are more like cats-- At times aloof, not very loyal and very unpredictable. It extends its belly because it wants to be rubbed but once you do it bites you. When you're alone with it, it shows great affection purring contently and kneading its head against your chest but as soon as somebody else walks in its best friends with him. And when you want to play with it it runs away but when you're fucking busy it shows up out of nowhere and starts rubbing against your legs and purring. Maybe I'm a bit cynical but I truly believe that most girls (especially of the 25 and under variety) are like cats. The only real solution that I've found is trying to build a great life with girls being only a tiny part of the equation. Girls come and go and maybe a real special one will pop up two or three times in a lifetime. What I'm trying to say is, I think I want a dog. Female cats must be complete bitches | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
Guy and girl are dating, guy wants out. on April 1st, he goes up to her and says "you know what's a joke? This relationship!" and walks away. It took the girl 3 days to realize he was being serious. I tried typing my own worst breakup story, but it just made me realize how much of a little bitch I was back in high school so I stopped and watched some Husky vids instead, because I have my priorities in order! | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:48 SamsungStar wrote: /facepalm. Basically, you're agreeing that women still operate off of the instinctive notion of finding the best quality sperm at any given moment, and intellectual concepts like loyalty, love, dedication, perseverance etc are completely ignored. Marriage vows used to be considered sacred and there were serious social repercussions for ALL parties involved when divorcing. Nowadays, it is a joke, and an invitation for women to take half your shit and write a lawyer's paycheck for the year in the process. So do men. It all comes down to very trivial things in the end, but such is life. If you're ugly, then you're just unlucky, and that's the end of it. Meanwhile, the world carries on. Marriage was considered sacred a couple of decades ago, it's true. It wasn't really about love or attraction, it was about stability through strong social pressure. If you like this old-fashioned model, than you could move to another country where it's possible to marry your kids by the age of ten and tie their destiny to an unknown partner. The path of freedom is what we chose today, but it may not suit your desires. I'll also disregard that nonsense about women stealing, I hope you were just joking. If not, then it's a striking proof that you're simply a bitter, resentful man. As for myself, I have found sincere love and I feel only respect towards both men and women. On February 18 2013 04:49 Warlock40 wrote: But there are striking differences between male and female mating behavior, in humans just as in many other species. This is scientific fact that goes beyond just societal norms and constraints. But what are these striking differences? It is hard to tell, and if you take the time to dig through research you'll find that some scientists think that most of these differences are cultural, as underlined by anthropological studies. The most obvious ones, such as pregnancy, constitute only a small portion of what is usually considered "feminine" or "masculine". And it surely is very different than saying that "men are dogs, and women are cats". Just read this last page, so much pseudo-science thrown randomly here and there. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
On February 18 2013 04:55 SamsungStar wrote: Regrets? What a crock of shit. You spend 30+ years with a guy, you have kids with him, you see it to the bitter end. It's what I would do if I had a wife. Even if I was pining for some other girl on the side, I'd keep it together and do what was right. Because that's what my wife earned over her 30+ years of loyalty. She earned mine. There is nothing logical about feelings. There is nothing logical about chasing something that could disappear at the drop of a hat. Idiotic notions like love and hope are exactly the reason modern society is decaying. I'll take righteousness and pragmatism over love and hope any day of the year. Corruption of the soul, catering to the lowest common denominator, and an absolute capitulation to every base and immediate desire is not a life worth living. P.S. I say this as an atheist. Oh really, you it to the bitter end... how old are you to say that? What kind of responsabilities have you to cast such a harsh judgement on someone? : ) It's funny, I used to think the same way when I was a child. My father ran away when I was born (booo women, booo... wait), and I had always been very resentful for that. But stepping into the adult world made me realize I wasn't necessarily a better person, and that I have no right to judge him so harshly, because I had faced difficult situations but nothing as difficult as being a 20 years old father. I look at my grandparents, and I can't imagine how hard it would be for me to be as stoic as they have been, being married to someone I don't particularly like and spending my life with that person, giving up on any dreams or plans I ever had. Maybe I have it in me, maybe I don't, but until then I will only allow myself to frown upon those who run away from responsabilities I've never approached myself. No more, no less. You also make it sound more acceptable to be a coward and "pin some girl on the side". Isn't it odd to promote stoicism only to admit that you prefer the easy way out? As for myself, I believe that it is better to be honest not only to your partner, but also to your children. Hey, I grew up without a dad and I'm fine. A divorce is fine. Life is hard, deal with it! But hey, if your definition of "loyalty" is "pinning some girl on the side"... I also seems odd to say that : - love and hope are causes of decay, since they are the very things that drive us forward. Without love, without empathy, man isn't a social animal. Without hope, man isn't a spiritual animal. - you prefer righteousness, when you speak of loyalty in terms of "pinning a girl on the side", as if it wasn't such a big deal - (this is the icing on the cake) you prefer pragmatism... before speaking of "corruption of the soul". There is no such thing as a "soul", from a pragmatic point of view. At this point you're simply trying to rationalize your bitterness towards women in general, which is... not the most righteous and pragmatic position I've seen. | ||
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