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On April 09 2013 21:55 don_kyuhote wrote:
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Since NK's internal matters are one of the most secretive ones in the world, the closest thing to a "actual source" may be what comes out of the mouths of North Korean defectors.
One can either choose to assume that a 29 guy, who by the way was pushed on to the political scene out of nowhere by his dying father, rules NK, or one can choose to assume that it's his Aunt and her husband Jang Sung Taek along with the senior high ranking officials who were at the inner circle of Kim Jung Il who are actually in control.
I would think the latter is more reasonable and likely, and that's really what all the defectors say they think is going on.

On April 09 2013 21:29 CaucasianAsian wrote:


No country is going to attack directly first.

North Korea has done many worse things before (bombing of the airline jets before the olympics, assassination attempt on the south korean president, torpedoing of the submarine, shelling of the islands, etc...)

Once Koreans start packing up and walking to busan, then i'll get scared. until then, the biggest worries I'll have are my upcoming classes and midterms.

On April 09 2013 21:42 Acritter wrote:

There's always the possibility for an accident that escalates. You're definitely right in that nobody is going to TRY to start a catastrophic war: the only way it can possibly end is in huge damage to Seoul and the destruction of the North Korean government, and neither country wants that. Hell, even looking at the bigger players of the US and China, both want to stay at peace because we're huge trading partners. The only way this could turn into anything more is a tragic accident, or if North Korea finally decides that it has nothing left to lose.

Of course, what I'd really like to see is for China to start putting serious pressure on North Korea. That could possibly solve this incident without bloodshed, which is the best possible outcome for everyone.

On April 09 2013 23:40 jellyjello wrote:


What you are failing to realize is that SK also has a new regime, a very conservative one, and the fact is that most Koreans are fed up with the recent craziness from North. I'm not saying that SK will attack the North in an all out war, but I can tell you that it won't be another "sanctions" or cutting off aid package deal. If North does something stupid, SK will respond and the tension in the region will only go up.

On April 09 2013 23:43 jellyjello wrote:



What's really serious is that if Kim Jung Un does not have the complete control of his military, then there is always a chance, a reasonable one at that, that one of his generals goes rogue and does something stupid without realizing the severe consequence.

On April 07 2013 21:59 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote:


My friend, I was not comparing the 2 military super powers. I was merely drawing the correlation to Bush finishing up his fathers dirty launder in Iraq. Similarly, NK wants to "reunite" the koreas once and for all. No doubt the US has a far superior army.. but do not forget the sleeping giants in Russia and China. Although, they may seem dormant and opposed to war.. they stand to gain alot from destabilizing the US. A protracted war thats at deadlock is all they need to push their agendas to cover more regional and international presence. We would be lying to ourselves if we were to say we are not tired of the wars the US have started.

On April 07 2013 21:47 StarStruck wrote:


There are no winners in war though. Only losers and what Bush did reminded me very much of what Bush Sr. did. I wouldn't be comparing them either and if NK really did make an offensive I'm sure we all know how that would work out. I'm not all that surprised to hear about political strife in the inner circle. Kim Jong Un is a kid compared to everyone else in his camp.

On April 10 2013 00:53 ninini wrote:

Bush Sr intercepted a war of occupation, conducted by the most ruthless dictator in the middle east, against one of the fairest countries of the middle east. What a terrible man he was, indeed.
And Bush Jr invaded the country of said ruthless dictator, and put an end to his reign of terror. He was also a terrible man, like his father, right?


No winners in war? On the contrary, there are always winners, and losers. The winners of a North Korean war would be the North Korean ppl. The losers would be their oppressors who are in power now, and the ppl who died because of the war, but there's no doubt that there would be more winners than losers. The reason why the west don't want to invade is because they value the lives of the South Koreans and the well being of Seoul higher than they value the North Korean ppl. And the reason why China don't want an invasion to happen is similar. They already have probably hundreds of thousands of North Korean in hiding in China, who are living there or travelling back and forth often, working for food and electronics that are in abundance in China. This is similar to the illegal mexican immigration to USA, only much worse, and it's a problem for China and they don't want it to get any worse. If a war started, the flood gates would open, and that's what China is trying to avoid.

And the political strife started when Kim Jong Il was still alive. He totally mishandled his countries economy and resources, by overinvesting in the army and forcing many farmers to grow opium over food (as it's more profitable), to pay for said army. His inability to properly handle the country is what lead to the huge famine in the 90's. Since then, North Korea operates as a broken market economy (kind of like China today, but much worse), and the NK military is supporting itself by confiscating foreign aid that originated from countries like SK, USA and China and by leeching off the traders by threat. There's no Juche anymore. Some ppl still believe in North Korea, because they have been brainwashed to believe a lot of lies about USA and South Korea, but most of them don't. The problem is that if they criticize dictator Kim, or his posse of military leaders, they will get punished. Typically, punishment means slave laboring, working in the mines or on the farms, while living on starvation food rations. How long you have to spend time there seems to depend on your family's status, and how serious your offense was. Some ppl spend their time in there for life though, or until they die out of starvation, and some are even born there. Shin Dong Hyuk is the only known person who was born into slavery and who have escaped it.
All of the things I've said in this paragraph are things I've heard from the testimonies of North Korean refugees, and many of these things have also been confirmed by western diplomats who have spent time in North Korea.

On April 10 2013 01:42 Kalingingsong wrote:
how about this: evacuate Seoul, then invade North Korea?

On April 10 2013 01:55 Zeo wrote:

Move 25 million people out of a city? Piece of cake

Strange to see some people bring up the Boy who Cried Wolf story as a reason to not believe the North Korean rhetoric! It seems these people have forgotten how that story actually ends....

On April 09 2013 22:53 revel8 wrote:
The Boy who Cried Wolf story should be referenced as to why people should believe the current rhetoric and not the opposite. Seems some have completely missed the message of that story.

On April 10 2013 03:11 Cheerio wrote:

sorry to break it for you but the story teaches people not to cry wolf when there is none.