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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
I'm starting to like McIntyre more but he still doesn't feel as godlike as Whitfield  I think Crassus is awesome, and I'll probably be cheering for him when the inevitable battle between him and Spartacus comes. Also I think they should kill off Naevia soon. She's getting really annoying, but that's obviously what they want to accomplish. Gannicus is still pretty awesome. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On the other side, when you remember that K. Marx described Spartacus as one of the most splendid hero of the proletarian, and that a TV show with his name ended up like this, flagship of America's "culture" (in the bad sense), where the only thing that matter is blood, sex, and "freedom". With such character, I'm sure they could have made this show a little deeper and more interesting if they had the nerve to go beyond all the cliche. It's sad because a lot of Americans TV shows are actually really good at being at the same time entertaining and deep. + Show Spoiler [do not read if you don't know ho…] + I'm sure they will use Naevia to explain why Spartacus and Crixus split up, since there is no historical evidence as to why they did this | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
drama everywhere | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On February 23 2013 15:07 Assault_1 wrote: such a good episode holy shit :O drama everywhere YEah this was just amazing.... 10/10. Every side is so morally abhorrent there aren't any protagonists in this show, which is surprisingly brave and novel. I mean yeah, sometimes there's a collection of morally gray entities in television and film, but is exceedingly rare when everyone is just a barbaric and violent dick. This was seriously the best episode of the entire series... beats the Blood and Sand finale, beats the episode where they burn down the arena. The writers did an amazing job on this one. + Show Spoiler + holy shit the scene where Crassus orders the decimation and puts his son in the drawing... wtf... wtf... wtf | ||
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BigAsia
Canada451 Posts
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Dark Horse
6 Posts
On February 21 2013 20:27 EquilasH wrote:I think Crassus is awesome, and I'll probably be cheering for him when the inevitable battle between him and Spartacus comes. Also I think they should kill off Naevia soon. She's getting really annoying, but that's obviously what they want to accomplish. I really hope that they don't stick to the history. Crassus doesn't necessarily have to win. Spartacus and Crixus don't necessarily have to end up falling out. For the show to be truly a masterpiece, it should make its own ending, go in its own direction. Kind of like the Full Metal Alchemist anime. | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
On February 23 2013 16:46 Dark Horse wrote: I really hope that they don't stick to the history. Crassus doesn't necessarily have to win. Spartacus and Crixus don't necessarily have to end up falling out. For the show to be truly a masterpiece, it should make its own ending, go in its own direction. Kind of like the Full Metal Alchemist anime. eh.. sorry but it would be lame if they didnt follow the history | ||
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Dark Horse
6 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
On February 23 2013 18:10 Dark Horse wrote: Caesar having sympathy for Nadia didn't fit his character. If he cares for those who are naked and raped, then he might as well feel compassion for the slaves. Fabia? Sweet episode though, hate waiting a whole week. T_T | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On February 23 2013 18:10 Dark Horse wrote: Caesar having sympathy for Nadia didn't fit his character. If he cares for those who are naked and raped, then he might as well feel compassion for the slaves. She's a Roman noble, it's easy to see how he could feel compassion for his own people and still despise foreign slaves. | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On February 23 2013 17:45 Assault_1 wrote: eh.. sorry but it would be lame if they didnt follow the history They've already deviated from history a fair bit. I doubt they'd deviate from history that much though. On February 23 2013 06:19 WhiteDog wrote: I don't know what to think of this serie. In some way I like it as a divertissement, and some scene are really fun to watch. On the other side, when you remember that K. Marx described Spartacus as one of the most splendid hero of the proletarian, and that a TV show with his name ended up like this, flagship of America's "culture" (in the bad sense), where the only thing that matter is blood, sex, and "freedom". With such character, I'm sure they could have made this show a little deeper and more interesting if they had the nerve to go beyond all the cliche. It's sad because a lot of Americans TV shows are actually really good at being at the same time entertaining and deep. + Show Spoiler [do not read if you don't know ho…] + I'm sure they will use Naevia to explain why Spartacus and Crixus split up, since there is no historical evidence as to why they did this It's a show made for entertainment about a slave uprising and war. Spartacus' rebels committed numerous atrocities, I wouldn't really call them deep people or friendly people. This TV show is a lot closer to reality than a lot of other media takes on Spartacus where he's usually painted as some kind of freedom fighter and decent guy. It's an impressive but violent piece of history. | ||
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kaykaykay
Singapore637 Posts
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Dark Horse
6 Posts
On February 23 2013 19:31 kaykaykay wrote: Anyone is common in thought that Spartacus made such a bad decision in sparing the Aedile’s wife? I share thought regarding this decision. Even if Spartacus wants to be merciful, there is no reason as to why he can't just kill her and say that it was due to her betraying his trust, whilst sparing other Romans who have not tried to, as Gannicus' friend would say, "fuck his ass". If he later finds out that Caesar has betrayed his trust, does that mean he will also spare him, because he (Spartacus) does not want to be like the Romans? And if his ideal is that he does not wish to be like the Romans, then why did he slaughter so many 'innocent' Romans in the final episode of season one? In fact, why doesn't he just simply kick the Romans out of the city and have them wander off beyond the gates? Also, why has Gannicus not kicked Naevia's ass? His friend's life obviously wasn't really worth all that much if he can just move on at the end of the episode without being absolutely outraged and lusting for revenge. | ||
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Shinobi1982
1605 Posts
Fireworks..... EVERYWHERE Naevia: Attius was a Roman, who fell to deserved fate. Gannicus: He was my friend, you mad BITCH! (pushes Naevia away) Crixus: Seize tongue, brother. This episode puts an end to debate who is better fighter Gannicus or Crixus. + Show Spoiler + At least in my eyes it was very clear Decimation... daamn Kill them all v2... daamn | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
These past 4 episodes, this one especially, have been so good. Dark Horse brings up a good point though.. why not just kick the Romans out haha. As for Gannicus not fighting/killing Naevia.. well I don't think Gannicus is that kind of person that would kill a woman (even a psycho crazy woman) and especially not Crixus' woman. I mean, Gannicus is pretty smart.. what can he really do about his friends death? | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On February 23 2013 19:31 kaykaykay wrote: Anyone is common in thought that Spartacus made such a bad decision in sparing the Aedile’s wife? Indeed. They have to give Crixus some reason to split off though. This way just creates more drama... even though I'm not a fan of it. They are trying too hard to paint Spartacus as some benevolent saint. If Crassus is smart enough to know that fear instills obedience, so should Spartacus... especially when dealing with savages. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On February 23 2013 22:05 Dosey wrote: They are trying too hard to paint Spartacus as some benevolent saint. Deciding it's wrong to butcher civilian prisoners qualifies for sainthood o.O | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On February 23 2013 22:13 Scarecrow wrote: Deciding it's wrong to butcher civilian prisoners qualifies for sainthood o.O Butcher? He showed her mercy once and she betrayed him, causing the death of an "innocent" and quite valuable blacksmith in the process. I'd hardly consider her death as punishment "butchery". Side note: Anyone else hoping they do a Gannicus-like spinoff of Caesar? This is such a good show... I'd hate to see it end. | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
Sure made for a powerful and disturbing scene though. | ||
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