The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it. A gun control topic can be found here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472
Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt.
God I love the onion. Thanks for posting this link, it sums up my thoughts on the matter perfectly. Everyone has their preferred scapegoat, what we really need instead of blind conviction is a little humility.
I see nothing wrong with the content of the report except that the tone is suggesting something far beyond what the content would indicate, and unfortunately a ton of people will eat that right up.
It's another case of the general public being unable to tell the difference between correlation and causality. Yes, I'd be willing to bet that most, if not all, of young male violent criminals like to play violent video games. Is it so shocking that someone with homicidal tendencies would enjoy acting on them in a virtual reality? Not really, it's what I would expect them to do and hopefully it satisfies their urge for violent crime.
Is it the game's fault when that person shoots up a school? No not really...what about the millions of other people who play the game and live normal, adjusted lives? But no, people won't see it that way. Something has to be blamed for this horrific tragedy, so why not something the baby boomer generation has never really understood the appeal of?
I just find it annoying that they rush to an explanation that's so clearly full of shit.
I mean seriously. If the shooter wanted to replicate StarCraft, he would have found a way to lift off the school and fly it to a corner of his town.
Top down view strategy games are about as far detached from any sense of personal involvement or stake in the individual actions of characters in gaming as it gets before getting into the point and click puzzler territory, what the fuck were they thinking letting this man on the air -_- It's 1980s demonizing D&D all over again.
The media report on every implausible explanation and ignore the one rational people keep saying, that their coverage of school shootings incentivises them. Nobody with any sense thinks a strategy game played years ago means anything but the hypocrisy would be too much if they reported on how their continued coverage was the problem.
God I love the onion. Thanks for posting this link, it sums up my thoughts on the matter perfectly. Everyone has their preferred scapegoat, what we really need instead of blind conviction is a little humility.
I agree. The onion, which ironically is a parody, is the most sensible media coverage about this so far.
Before people go all bunkers over this keep this in mind:
Beyond the occasional sensational televised clips, which has been few, there are no spread discussions regarding if video games did this, even the guy they interviewed said that it was media violence which was the cause, this could even includes CNN itself which is broadcasting this. overall video games are getting the same amount or even less amount of blame like all the other stuff that is getting thrown under the buss.
The heavy hitter however, or the official blame seems to be on the gun laws for this one. They are the big losers at this, not video games.
On December 20 2012 01:19 Butterednuts wrote: OP, I have an update for you!
CNN is adding StarCraft II as a contributing factor for the school shooting.
This only further proves my point; any sane person today will call all the game bashing bullshit, no one takes this serious anymore, they are only doing this cause they believe it will draw attention, which now is mostly negative, even Forbes calls them out on it, it's that bad. What the hell are they thinking.
On December 20 2012 01:39 mdb wrote: Ok, I havent watched a lot of CNN, but I`ve always thought they are ok media, but after watching this...what a joke
But if he really played starcraft/warcraft I wonder what his nickname was, is it possible that he is someone from the community?
Why would you even care? Seriously, stop paying attention to these people.
On December 20 2012 01:39 mdb wrote: Ok, I havent watched a lot of CNN, but I`ve always thought they are ok media, but after watching this...what a joke
But if he really played starcraft/warcraft I wonder what his nickname was, is it possible that he is someone from the community?
Why would you even care? Seriously, stop paying attention to these people.
Back when I was on Newgrounds they had a member who carried out a school shooting in 2006. (They also had the dude that wanted to arson his school but they got his info through the site and arrested him, Wikipedia has a link to that thread). So it was kinda interesting to see his contributions before he died.
a big player in the SC2 scene should stand up for us. i think the ignorance of CNN is just so obscene that it makes me sick that people make these kinds of accusations.
I know why it happened. So he played Zerg, and he isbad, so he is really pissed that zerg is sooooo underpowered (as it really is) he tried to fungal the school.
In reality, this is a terible thing, and CNN,and the other sites are stupid. It is liek when CNN said that pro sc2 is gaming adiction. that was terible, and they shoudl interview Tastless more
Pretty sure no one takes 24/7 cable news seriously, only the evening news broadcast is watchable and that goes for all major stations with local affiliates.
I bet the small arms proliferation is very eger to find a good reason why this boy killed so many people. It would be very bad for them if more people in the USA would realize that having weapons to kill someone is a way bigger risk factor than playing a computer game...
Penn Gillette speaking well, against a bunch of women who insist on sensationalizing the subject while simultaneously talking about how terrible the media is for sensationalizing tragedies like this. I love it.
On December 24 2012 07:07 Gene wrote: penn looks like he's about to have a stroke. Those women are more homicide inducing than any of the crap they insist on spreading.
I agree. I like how Penn defends not only video games, but art and expression in general (likening these pop culture references that are constantly accused of causing school shootings to the works of Shakespeare in an appropriate analogy), and asking us to blame the shooters and their circumstances, rather than arbitrary references that everyone experiences and that everyone else has no problem coexisting with. And when he was forced to defend Asperger's... oh god.
I love Penn. Even though I don't always agree with what he says, like that we should deprioritytize gun control for safer pools (lets be honest, why not both?). But he has a way of making his points that always seems very sensible, and he's very quick on calling out bullshit .
On December 20 2012 01:26 Integra wrote: Beyond the occasional sensational televised clips, which has been few, there are no spread discussions regarding if video games did this, even the guy they interviewed said that it was media violence which was the cause, this could even includes CNN itself which is broadcasting this. overall video games are getting the same amount or even less amount of blame like all the other stuff that is getting thrown under the buss.
I used to listen to CNN on the radio while driving, but fuck em. I'm not supporting them for bullshit coverage like this. They are so disconnected from something that is incredibly common these days, and it just destroys their credibility. It's like I'm hearing about the internet being a series of tubes all over again.