The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it. A gun control topic can be found here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472
Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt.
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
I always tell my coworkers how Afghanistan would probably be safer than the US. (I'm in the military) We had a lot of shootings in the past week in my city. People got shot up in our mall last week. *face palm*
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
I always tell my coworkers how Afghanistan would probably be safer than the US. (I'm in the military) We had a lot of shootings in the past week in my city. People got shot up in our mall last week. *face palm*
Obama's drone strikes have killed thousands of people and 100's of children. You're much safer here.
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
I always tell my coworkers how Afghanistan would probably be safer than the US. (I'm in the military) We had a lot of shootings in the past week in my city. People got shot up in our mall last week. *face palm*
Obama's drone strikes have killed thousands of people and 100's of children. You're much safer here.
Unless you have some kind of proof, please refrain from making ridiculous statements like that.
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
I always tell my coworkers how Afghanistan would probably be safer than the US. (I'm in the military) We had a lot of shootings in the past week in my city. People got shot up in our mall last week. *face palm*
Obama's drone strikes have killed thousands of people and 100's of children. You're much safer here.
Unless you have some kind of proof, please refrain from making ridiculous statements like that.
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
I always tell my coworkers how Afghanistan would probably be safer than the US. (I'm in the military) We had a lot of shootings in the past week in my city. People got shot up in our mall last week. *face palm*
Obama's drone strikes have killed thousands of people and 100's of children. You're much safer here.
Unless you have some kind of proof, please refrain from making ridiculous statements like that.
Are you even serious? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are misinformed. An independent report was done and it states that only 2% of victims are actually militants.
The second issue is the "double tap" which is considered a war crime. Double tapping is when they fire one missile which kills 1-3 people, the natural reaction is for people and medical officials to gather around to help the wounded so the USA fires a second missile on the rescuers causing the deaths of 20-50 people.
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
I always tell my coworkers how Afghanistan would probably be safer than the US. (I'm in the military) We had a lot of shootings in the past week in my city. People got shot up in our mall last week. *face palm*
Obama's drone strikes have killed thousands of people and 100's of children. You're much safer here.
Unless you have some kind of proof, please refrain from making ridiculous statements like that.
Are you even serious? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are misinformed. An independent report was done and it states that only 2% of victims are actually militants.
The second issue is the "double tap" which is considered a war crime. Double tapping is when they fire one missile which kills 1-3 people, the natural reaction is for people and medical officials to gather around to help the wounded so the USA fires a second missile on the rescuers causing the deaths of 20-50 people.
I'm sorry, but that's not an "independent" report. Pun not intended.
Also, is there a single other source that substantiates this claim? Every single remotely credible thing I found through google cites to this report. There is no other documentation that I can find. I would be rather appalled if they were using this strategy on a routine basis.
The source as stated by this report is a handful of Pakistanis who have heard stories of this happening, and a few who claimed they saw it. This sounds like a rumor to me. Care to debunk that conclusion?
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I think it depends on the time and area. I went to school in northern Michigan in a rural area, in the '90s. Around hunting season kids would bring there guns and show them off.. Nothing ever close to a lock down plan
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
I always tell my coworkers how Afghanistan would probably be safer than the US. (I'm in the military) We had a lot of shootings in the past week in my city. People got shot up in our mall last week. *face palm*
Obama's drone strikes have killed thousands of people and 100's of children. You're much safer here.
Unless you have some kind of proof, please refrain from making ridiculous statements like that.
On December 17 2012 07:46 imallinson wrote: I'm curious about schools having 'lockdown plans' for situations like this. I used to live in the US until I was 8 (1998) and we never had anything like that. Is this a fairly new thing because I was really surprised and pretty depressed that elementary schools needed to have something like that.
I was in grade school in the early 90's and we had lockdown plans.
EDIT: They were probably not as rehearsed as they are now though.
Yeah I graduated High School in 2005. We had lockdown drills. Not that many ( I can't even remember what year) I never feared for my life while getting my edu-ma-cation though. We had our typical bomb threats, but nobody took them seriously. It's pretty sad though how violent this country can really be.
Sick.
On December 18 2012 08:09 rezoacken wrote: And still... I agree with him. Hiding details about the murderer while caring for someone like Victoria Soto is a part of a solution.
On a second thought, I agree on that opinion from a anonymous person without the conclusion. It could be better with more sane media, but the individual can not influence it.
On December 18 2012 08:09 rezoacken wrote: And still... I agree with him. Hiding details about the murderer while caring for someone like Victoria Soto is a part of a solution.
On a second thought, I agree on that opinion from a anonymous person without the conclusion. It could be better with more sane media, but the individual can not influence it.
Wasn't there a poll on TL where it turned out a large percentage of TL'ers are sick bastards who'd rather be remembered for something horrible than not remembered at all? I'll see if I can find it.
The media deserves a large share of the blame for these sorts of mass killings. Nowadays they cover it so extensively and for so long that it becomes a route to fame. Any nut that wants to go down in a blaze of glory knows they can kill a dozen people then themselves and guarantee their 15 minutes.
On December 18 2012 19:31 Mallard86 wrote: The media deserves a large share of the blame for these sorts of mass killings. Nowadays they cover it so extensively and for so long that it becomes a route to fame. Any nut that wants to go down in a blaze of glory knows they can kill a dozen people then themselves and guarantee their 15 minutes.
I agree with this, video is relevant (mostly the last 70 seconds of the clip)
I was just watching MNBC or whatever it is, and there's this fat dickfuckhead lobbying about how he's trying to get a bill passed to prevent ALL peoples with any mental illness or any instability to not be allowed to purchase/own a gun. My thinking is if that's okay, then any and all people with mental illness's won't be able to drive, cut food, or pretty much anything ever again.
People didn't start magically dying because guns were invented, people have been killing other people with their bare fucking hands for as long as the specie has been around.
On December 18 2012 21:49 GnarlyArbitrage wrote: I was just watching MNBC or whatever it is, and there's this fat dickfuckhead lobbying about how he's trying to get a bill passed to prevent ALL peoples with any mental illness or any instability to not be allowed to purchase/own a gun. My thinking is if that's okay, then any and all people with mental illness's won't be able to drive, cut food, or pretty much anything ever again.
People didn't start magically dying because guns were invented, people have been killing other people with their bare fucking hands for as long as the specie has been around.
On December 18 2012 21:49 GnarlyArbitrage wrote: I was just watching MNBC or whatever it is, and there's this fat dickfuckhead lobbying about how he's trying to get a bill passed to prevent ALL peoples with any mental illness or any instability to not be allowed to purchase/own a gun. My thinking is if that's okay, then any and all people with mental illness's won't be able to drive, cut food, or pretty much anything ever again.
People didn't start magically dying because guns were invented, people have been killing other people with their bare fucking hands for as long as the specie has been around.
They guy died but took the lives of so many children with him. It is tragic and heartbreaking. But the apathy and lack of interest towards the killing of children as "collateral damage" of sorts by drones is equally appalling.
This was a guy with a history of mental illness and instability. But why are completely sane people not even willing to admit some of the other atrocities going on in the world?
On December 18 2012 08:09 rezoacken wrote: And still... I agree with him. Hiding details about the murderer while caring for someone like Victoria Soto is a part of a solution.
On a second thought, I agree on that opinion from a anonymous person without the conclusion. It could be better with more sane media, but the individual can not influence it.
Wasn't there a poll on TL where it turned out a large percentage of TL'ers are sick bastards who'd rather be remembered for something horrible than not remembered at all? I'll see if I can find it.
Please find it, I'd like to know what kind of community I am in.
CNN ran some program an hour or two ago pointing out how the killer had played violent video games like Starcraft and Warcraft 3. They had some researcher on screen telling about how "all studies" agree on the same conclusion; that video games are only breeding violence and was a contributor to the shooting.
To CNN's credit, the reporter seemed skeptical and asked if the same hadn't been said and later disproven about heavy metal music and violent movies.
Still, it sickens me that a tragedy like this is used so brazenly as a political platform. And that it's still being reported on around the clock on nearly every news channel.
Edit: And yes, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 were mentioned by name. Starcraft was described on air as "a violent game where you play a war commander, in space."
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