• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:10
CEST 02:10
KST 09:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202534Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 565 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2828

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2826 2827 2828 2829 2830 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 05:01:42
February 02 2016 04:59 GMT
#56541
Four candidates have given victory speeches tonight, the media has fully covered three of them. (Hint, the fourth was Cruz) Yet, Cruz was the only one to unambiguously win the state, but is least likely of the three to become the nominee based on today's results.

Edit: On that note, it's time for bed. Good night folks.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 02 2016 05:03 GMT
#56542
On February 02 2016 13:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:48 xDaunt wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote:
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.


it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle).

like it's just a little ridiculous. i look like a complete pleb compared to him.

Congratulations. You just described damned near every national-level politician in the country.


You're being facetious and wrong dude. Ted + Heidi pulled in at least a million combined per year, and from the relatively low amount of assets they lived that million dollar lifestyle as well.

Obama was not pulling down a million a year before being elected to the senate, that is for sure.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 02 2016 05:06 GMT
#56543
On February 02 2016 14:03 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:48 xDaunt wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote:
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.


it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle).

like it's just a little ridiculous. i look like a complete pleb compared to him.

Congratulations. You just described damned near every national-level politician in the country.


You're being facetious and wrong dude. Ted + Heidi pulled in at least a million combined per year, and from the relatively low amount of assets they lived that million dollar lifestyle as well.

Obama was not pulling down a million a year before being elected to the senate, that is for sure.


lest we forget he was a community organizer with no experience
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23230 Posts
February 02 2016 05:07 GMT
#56544
You all ready for insane fundraising numbers for Sanders after this? 99.9% of his donors aren't maxed out 58% of Hillary's supporters are already maxed out.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
February 02 2016 05:09 GMT
#56545
Sanders has been polling alot better in NH too, I would almost favor him there next week after this showing tonight.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 02 2016 05:09 GMT
#56546
nitpicking: it's a little disingenuous for sanders to say they went from zero to 50%. it's the same as iCarly (i bet ya'll almost forgot about her, this is some good publicist she's getting ) saying she went from secretary to ceo. of course, i'll add that i prefer sanders by far to that banshee.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4752 Posts
February 02 2016 05:10 GMT
#56547
Oh, he's going to be swimming in money no doubt. Well, some doubt. But not a lot.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
February 02 2016 05:12 GMT
#56548
On February 02 2016 13:59 Ghanburighan wrote:
Four candidates have given victory speeches tonight, the media has fully covered three of them. (Hint, the fourth was Cruz) Yet, Cruz was the only one to unambiguously win the state, but is least likely of the three to become the nominee based on today's results.

Edit: On that note, it's time for bed. Good night folks.


That's because his speech was like half an hour long dude.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23230 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 05:21:36
February 02 2016 05:18 GMT
#56549
On February 02 2016 14:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
nitpicking: it's a little disingenuous for sanders to say they went from zero to 50%. it's the same as iCarly (i bet ya'll almost forgot about her, this is some good publicist she's getting ) saying she went from secretary to ceo. of course, i'll add that i prefer sanders by far to that banshee.


Well I guess he started at 3% which is usually what he says. 0% if you count the early polls that didn't even include him. I never bothered to learn Carly's story so I'm not sure how reasonable the comparison is.

hahahaha

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 02 2016 05:21 GMT
#56550
On February 02 2016 14:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
You all ready for insane fundraising numbers for Sanders after this? 99.9% of his donors aren't maxed out 58% of Hillary's supporters are already maxed out.


where'd you get the 58% clinton stat from? If true that could become a big deal the longer this goes on. Her burn rate is intense
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 02 2016 05:23 GMT
#56551
On February 02 2016 14:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 14:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
nitpicking: it's a little disingenuous for sanders to say they went from zero to 50%. it's the same as iCarly (i bet ya'll almost forgot about her, this is some good publicist she's getting ) saying she went from secretary to ceo. of course, i'll add that i prefer sanders by far to that banshee.


Well I guess he started at 3% which is usually what he says. 0% if you count the early polls that didn't even include him. I never bothered to learn Carly's story so I'm not sure how reasonable the comparison is.


i think in the case of politics where a "fair" start point is (like when he's got his campaign set up) is largely up to debate, though saying you went from nothing to ultra mega competitive, to me, seems like a feel good story a la carly. she worked as a secretary, yeah, but her dad was an AG and she went to stanford. it's like saying i started off as a random thought in my parents head and now i'm a functioning adult if you take it to extremes you know? anyways, it's my drunk practicality streak talking.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23230 Posts
February 02 2016 05:25 GMT
#56552
On February 02 2016 14:21 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 14:07 GreenHorizons wrote:
You all ready for insane fundraising numbers for Sanders after this? 99.9% of his donors aren't maxed out 58% of Hillary's supporters are already maxed out.


where'd you get the 58% clinton stat from? If true that could become a big deal the longer this goes on. Her burn rate is intense


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-donors-218569

Correction on my part apparently 2% of Sanders money has come from maxed out donors and 58% of Clinton's are from maxed out donors,

The number of donors (under $200) can only be estimated unless released by the campaigns (who you would just have to take their word for it).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 05:35:00
February 02 2016 05:33 GMT
#56553
i wouldnt consider that a concern honestly, hillary's got a superpac, a ton of big unions and other groups to campaign for her and she can find more people who can make 2.7K donations

up to 96% boys (and girls)
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23230 Posts
February 02 2016 05:38 GMT
#56554
On February 02 2016 14:33 ticklishmusic wrote:
i wouldnt consider that a concern honestly, hillary's got a superpac, a ton of big unions and other groups to campaign for her and she can find more people who can make 2.7K donations


Yeah... pretty sure that plays right into what Bernie says is wrong with establishment politics.

At least 3 coin flips for delegates all three went to Hillary which had they gone the other way would of had Bernie leading.

http://i.imgur.com/Q1Pxzaq.gifv

Record turnout for Republicans btw.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 05:43:49
February 02 2016 05:43 GMT
#56555
i chuckled a bit at the gif.

but re: people maxing out, do you really think they're all going to be people who want clinton to keep the status quo with regards to taxes and so forth? there are a lot of people who have been successful or born into money (either way they're rich) who want to make the US and the world a better place and see clinton as the vehicle to do so.

either way, great exercise in democracy tonight. hopefully this sets a precedent for future elections, though the caucus system is kind of a confusing shitshow.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 02 2016 05:47 GMT
#56556
On February 02 2016 14:38 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 14:33 ticklishmusic wrote:
i wouldnt consider that a concern honestly, hillary's got a superpac, a ton of big unions and other groups to campaign for her and she can find more people who can make 2.7K donations


Yeah... pretty sure that plays right into what Bernie says is wrong with establishment politics.

At least 3 coin flips for delegates all three went to Hillary which had they gone the other way would of had Bernie leading.

http://i.imgur.com/Q1Pxzaq.gifv

Record turnout for Republicans btw.


Lol. Yup
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/coin-flip-iowa-caucuses-044156528.html
Freeeeeeedom
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23230 Posts
February 02 2016 05:48 GMT
#56557
On February 02 2016 14:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
i chuckled a bit at the gif.

but re: people maxing out, do you really think they're all going to be people who want clinton to keep the status quo with regards to taxes and so forth? there are a lot of people who have been successful or born into money (either way they're rich) who want to make the US and the world a better place and see clinton as the vehicle to do so.


No, but for instance she left Iowa to go raise money at a private event for a multi billion dollar group with heavy investments in O&G and a paid Bon Jovi performance.

There's a reason she cancelled the following two similar fundraisers in NY (in addition to probably seeing she might lose Iowa, she had already pulled her NH team there.

Kind of exactly the opposite of how Bernie raises money and if she can't go to those she can't keep up.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 05:59:20
February 02 2016 05:55 GMT
#56558
On February 02 2016 14:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 14:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
i chuckled a bit at the gif.

but re: people maxing out, do you really think they're all going to be people who want clinton to keep the status quo with regards to taxes and so forth? there are a lot of people who have been successful or born into money (either way they're rich) who want to make the US and the world a better place and see clinton as the vehicle to do so.


No, but for instance she left Iowa to go raise money at a private event for a multi billion dollar group with heavy investments in O&G and a paid Bon Jovi performance.

There's a reason she cancelled the following two similar fundraisers in NY (in addition to probably seeing she might lose Iowa, she had already pulled her NH team there.

Kind of exactly the opposite of how Bernie raises money and if she can't go to those she can't keep up.


if you want to raise money from millionaires, you gotta cater to millionaires. bernie and hillary have different approaches to fundraising. sander's strategy is laudable and a cohesive part of his campaign theme and strategy, but i don't think it matters ultimately with regards to $$$ raised or ethics particularly.

also look at the flip side, a lot of bernie supporters (lets be real) hear these things and think "im gonna get a fuckload if he wins" like healthcare, college, tax cuts, etc. it's kind of the same as the clintons. yes there is a yuuuuuge (as trump would say) problem with income inequality (trump would not say this) but MY view (as you ofc know ) is that hillary has the better approach to addressing it. incremental change versus rewriting our social contract is the approach that i see happening.

what i really hope to see, above all else, from the next democratic admin is a public option for insurance. higher taxes on the top % of earners goes along with that, but further increases to pay for other social programs is second. (rambling a bit because a bottle of wine)
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23230 Posts
February 02 2016 06:00 GMT
#56559
On February 02 2016 14:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 14:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 02 2016 14:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
i chuckled a bit at the gif.

but re: people maxing out, do you really think they're all going to be people who want clinton to keep the status quo with regards to taxes and so forth? there are a lot of people who have been successful or born into money (either way they're rich) who want to make the US and the world a better place and see clinton as the vehicle to do so.


No, but for instance she left Iowa to go raise money at a private event for a multi billion dollar group with heavy investments in O&G and a paid Bon Jovi performance.

There's a reason she cancelled the following two similar fundraisers in NY (in addition to probably seeing she might lose Iowa, she had already pulled her NH team there.

Kind of exactly the opposite of how Bernie raises money and if she can't go to those she can't keep up.


if you want to raise money from millionaires, you gotta cater to millionaires. bernie and hillary have different approaches to fundraising. sander's strategy is laudable and a cohesive part of his campaign theme and strategy, but i don't think it matters ultimately with regards to $$$ raised or ethics particularly.

also look at the flip side, a lot of bernie supporters (lets be real) hear these things and think "im gonna get a fuckload if he wins" like healthcare, college, tax cuts, etc. it's kind of the same as the clintons. yes there is a yuuuuuge (as trump would say) problem with income inequality (trump would not say this) but MY view (as you ofc know ) is that hillary has the better approach to addressing it. incremental change versus rewriting our social contract is the approach that i see happening.

what i really hope to see, above all else, from the next democratic admin is a public option for insurance. higher taxes on the top % of earners goes along with that, but further increases to pay for other social programs is second. (rambling a bit because a bottle of wine)


I just find it hard to believe that she is going to take their money for her campaign and then work against their interests (re-redistributing the wealth they extracted over the last ~40 years).

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 02 2016 06:35 GMT
#56560
On February 02 2016 03:10 ticklishmusic wrote:
Alright, let's poll it up:

Democrats:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Democratic Caucus Winner

Bernie Sanders (23)
 
53%

Hillary Clinton (18)
 
42%

Martin O'Malley (2)
 
5%

43 total votes

Your vote: Democratic Caucus Winner

(Vote): Hillary Clinton
(Vote): Martin O'Malley
(Vote): Bernie Sanders





Republicans:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Republican Caucus Winner

Donald Trump (28)
 
80%

Ted Cruz (4)
 
11%

Marco Rubio (3)
 
9%

35 total votes

Your vote: Republican Caucus Winner

(Vote): Ted Cruz
(Vote): Marco Rubio
(Vote): Donald Trump





just to bump this up:

looks like we were wrong on the trump (who was unexpectedly stumped)

still dont know about hillary v bernie, i think hillary will win by 0.2- 0.5 in the end, but it doesnt matter really
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Prev 1 2826 2827 2828 2829 2830 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 278
RuFF_SC2 34
Nina 15
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 440
Aegong 81
firebathero 57
Sexy 56
NaDa 24
Barracks 15
Dota 2
monkeys_forever708
League of Legends
JimRising 584
febbydoto4
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox797
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor214
Other Games
tarik_tv23436
summit1g13162
gofns11741
Grubby3238
shahzam460
ViBE95
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1001
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH193
• RyuSc2 72
• davetesta12
• gosughost_ 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21842
Other Games
• imaqtpie1185
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 50m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
13h 50m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
15h 50m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 10h
OSC
1d 23h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.