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On February 02 2016 13:37 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: bbc calling it a tie. i imagine most place will as well. meh. I don't care either way. I'll be fine voting for whoever wins the dem nomination. plus I'm not particularly enthusiastic about either option. Just a reminder that this is a bad policy to have. The nominees don't have their policy prepared, nor have you had a chance to scrutinize the individuals as well as you will be able to afterwards. Ideally, you'd want to seize the opportunity to gain all this valuable information before making the most informed decision possible. If you then vote democrat (and I know I've voted the same party for more than a decade), you'll do it with a clear conscience. | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:41 Ghanburighan wrote: Just a reminder that this is a bad policy to have. The nominees don't have their policy prepared, nor have you had a chance to scrutinize the individuals as well as you will be able to afterwards. Ideally, you'd want to seize the opportunity to gain all this valuable information before making the most informed decision possible. If you then vote democrat (and I know I've voted the same party for more than a decade), you'll do it with a clear conscience. I have plenty of information about both candidates. i did my homework and what I meant was I neither love nor hate either of them. thats all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to say that i just vote for the party regardless of what happens | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:41 Plansix wrote: I think the best part about Cruz is that he talked about his victory being about grass roots politics, when his wife works for Goldman Sachs and that bank gave them a couple of campaign loans. I think that in his doublespeak grassroots = tea party. | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: I have plenty of information about both candidates. i did my homework and what I meant was I neither love nor hate either of them. thats all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to say that i just vote for the party regardless of what happens Ok, it seemed you were encouraging voting for the party regardless. My mistake I guess. | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:43 Ghanburighan wrote: Ok, it seemed you were encouraging voting for the party regardless. My mistake I guess. I could have been a bit clearer in the original pos about what I was trying to say. it was a bit vague/missing a lot of information | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote: I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special. it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle). like it's just a little ridiculous. i look like a complete pleb compared to him. | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:41 Plansix wrote: I think the best part about Cruz is that he talked about his victory being about grass roots politics, when his wife works for Goldman Sachs and that bank gave them a couple of campaign loans. This victory was probably 95% on the hard work on the Cruz volunteers going out and doing work more than any campaign financing. It's not that strange to attribute it to grassroots. | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote: it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle). That's where the hatred by the party elites comes in. Also, I don't interpret grassroots campaign="i'm a regular guy." Minor squabbles I suppose. I mean the people he gets voting for him certainly are grassroots, activist types. Edit: given his resume, I think we all look like plebs in comparison. | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote: it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle). like it's just a little ridiculous. i look like a complete pleb compared to him. Congratulations. You just described damned near every national-level politician in the country. | ||
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Not sure why this: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-primaries-2016/#/#d-ia is more updated than the official site: https://www.idpcaucuses.com/#/state | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote: I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special. Because it wasn't disclosed in financial reports and claim it was his own assets that funded him. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-wall-street-loan-senate-bid-2012.html?_r=0 He makes a big deal about being a grass roots, tea party darling. Guy took out a million dollar loan from the bank his wife works at. Of course he was pulling down a million a year as a law partner before that, but you know. And again, I don't mind that he is successful. I mind that he is an asshole and wants to put in social polices that would argue against until I coughed up blood. And he says his guidance comes from God, which is really something I am interested in for a president. | ||
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On February 02 2016 13:48 xDaunt wrote: Congratulations. You just described damned near every national-level politician in the country. You're being facetious and wrong dude. Ted + Heidi pulled in at least a million combined per year, and from the relatively low amount of assets they lived that million dollar lifestyle as well. | ||
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