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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44308 Posts
February 02 2016 04:38 GMT
#56521
49.8% Hillary to 49.6% Bernie, despite the free coin toss win from Hillary!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:41:36
February 02 2016 04:39 GMT
#56522
I give up. I don't udnerstand caucuses. one minute its .8 percent now its back down to .2 percent. pbs had an .8 percent lead with 92 percent counted and now somehow despite same amount counted its different. next time im just gonna ignore it til its 100 percent over
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 02 2016 04:39 GMT
#56523
i want to say based on the non-100%'s that hillary has a good chance to pick up more points, but its insanely close
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:40:37
February 02 2016 04:39 GMT
#56524
How is there 1% out on the Republican side? Also this Iowa caucus shows how important every single vote is (at least in the caucuses).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 02 2016 04:41 GMT
#56525
On February 02 2016 13:37 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
bbc calling it a tie. i imagine most place will as well.

meh. I don't care either way. I'll be fine voting for whoever wins the dem nomination. plus I'm not particularly enthusiastic about either option.


Just a reminder that this is a bad policy to have. The nominees don't have their policy prepared, nor have you had a chance to scrutinize the individuals as well as you will be able to afterwards. Ideally, you'd want to seize the opportunity to gain all this valuable information before making the most informed decision possible. If you then vote democrat (and I know I've voted the same party for more than a decade), you'll do it with a clear conscience.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 02 2016 04:41 GMT
#56526
I think the best part about Cruz is that he talked about his victory being about grass roots politics, when his wife works for Goldman Sachs and that bank gave them a couple of campaign loans.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:42:24
February 02 2016 04:42 GMT
#56527
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:43:19
February 02 2016 04:42 GMT
#56528
On February 02 2016 13:41 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:37 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
bbc calling it a tie. i imagine most place will as well.

meh. I don't care either way. I'll be fine voting for whoever wins the dem nomination. plus I'm not particularly enthusiastic about either option.


Just a reminder that this is a bad policy to have. The nominees don't have their policy prepared, nor have you had a chance to scrutinize the individuals as well as you will be able to afterwards. Ideally, you'd want to seize the opportunity to gain all this valuable information before making the most informed decision possible. If you then vote democrat (and I know I've voted the same party for more than a decade), you'll do it with a clear conscience.


I have plenty of information about both candidates. i did my homework and what I meant was I neither love nor hate either of them. thats all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to say that i just vote for the party regardless of what happens
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 02 2016 04:43 GMT
#56529
On February 02 2016 13:41 Plansix wrote:
I think the best part about Cruz is that he talked about his victory being about grass roots politics, when his wife works for Goldman Sachs and that bank gave them a couple of campaign loans.


I think that in his doublespeak grassroots = tea party.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 02 2016 04:43 GMT
#56530
On February 02 2016 13:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:41 Ghanburighan wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:37 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
bbc calling it a tie. i imagine most place will as well.

meh. I don't care either way. I'll be fine voting for whoever wins the dem nomination. plus I'm not particularly enthusiastic about either option.


Just a reminder that this is a bad policy to have. The nominees don't have their policy prepared, nor have you had a chance to scrutinize the individuals as well as you will be able to afterwards. Ideally, you'd want to seize the opportunity to gain all this valuable information before making the most informed decision possible. If you then vote democrat (and I know I've voted the same party for more than a decade), you'll do it with a clear conscience.


I have plenty of information about both candidates. i did my homework and what I meant was I neither love nor hate either of them. thats all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to say that i just vote for the party regardless of what happens


Ok, it seemed you were encouraging voting for the party regardless. My mistake I guess.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 02 2016 04:44 GMT
#56531
On February 02 2016 13:43 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:42 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:41 Ghanburighan wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:37 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
bbc calling it a tie. i imagine most place will as well.

meh. I don't care either way. I'll be fine voting for whoever wins the dem nomination. plus I'm not particularly enthusiastic about either option.


Just a reminder that this is a bad policy to have. The nominees don't have their policy prepared, nor have you had a chance to scrutinize the individuals as well as you will be able to afterwards. Ideally, you'd want to seize the opportunity to gain all this valuable information before making the most informed decision possible. If you then vote democrat (and I know I've voted the same party for more than a decade), you'll do it with a clear conscience.


I have plenty of information about both candidates. i did my homework and what I meant was I neither love nor hate either of them. thats all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to say that i just vote for the party regardless of what happens


Ok, it seemed you were encouraging voting for the party regardless. My mistake I guess.


I could have been a bit clearer in the original pos about what I was trying to say. it was a bit vague/missing a lot of information
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:46:43
February 02 2016 04:46 GMT
#56532
On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote:
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.


it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle).

like it's just a little ridiculous. i look like a complete pleb compared to him.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
February 02 2016 04:47 GMT
#56533
On February 02 2016 13:41 Plansix wrote:
I think the best part about Cruz is that he talked about his victory being about grass roots politics, when his wife works for Goldman Sachs and that bank gave them a couple of campaign loans.


This victory was probably 95% on the hard work on the Cruz volunteers going out and doing work more than any campaign financing. It's not that strange to attribute it to grassroots.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:49:13
February 02 2016 04:48 GMT
#56534
On February 02 2016 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote:
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.


it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle).


That's where the hatred by the party elites comes in. Also, I don't interpret grassroots campaign="i'm a regular guy." Minor squabbles I suppose. I mean the people he gets voting for him certainly are grassroots, activist types.

Edit: given his resume, I think we all look like plebs in comparison.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 02 2016 04:48 GMT
#56535
Whats this shit about c-span video?
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 02 2016 04:48 GMT
#56536
On February 02 2016 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote:
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.


it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle).

like it's just a little ridiculous. i look like a complete pleb compared to him.

Congratulations. You just described damned near every national-level politician in the country.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 02 2016 04:50 GMT
#56537
Of the counties with unfinished counts, there are many many more that have Hillary in the lead currently-- so assuming that trend holds it seems possible that she will pull past 50%. Speculation ofc.

Not sure why this: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-primaries-2016/#/#d-ia

is more updated than the official site: https://www.idpcaucuses.com/#/state
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-02 04:55:39
February 02 2016 04:52 GMT
#56538
On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote:
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.

Because it wasn't disclosed in financial reports and claim it was his own assets that funded him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-wall-street-loan-senate-bid-2012.html?_r=0

He makes a big deal about being a grass roots, tea party darling. Guy took out a million dollar loan from the bank his wife works at. Of course he was pulling down a million a year as a law partner before that, but you know.

And again, I don't mind that he is successful. I mind that he is an asshole and wants to put in social polices that would argue against until I coughed up blood. And he says his guidance comes from God, which is really something I am interested in for a president.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 02 2016 04:54 GMT
#56539
Bernie Sanders speech comes off well, similar to Rubio's in the sense that it sounds like a victory speech. In many ways, they both are
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 02 2016 04:59 GMT
#56540
On February 02 2016 13:48 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 13:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 02 2016 13:42 Introvert wrote:
I'm still not sure why someone taking out a loan(s) is such a big deal. They weren't special.


it's more the cruz "i'm a regular guy" facade when he went to princeton, harvard, clerked for the supreme court and is married to a former MD at GS. oh, and they gross over a million a year, most of which they spend (the lifestyle).

like it's just a little ridiculous. i look like a complete pleb compared to him.

Congratulations. You just described damned near every national-level politician in the country.


You're being facetious and wrong dude. Ted + Heidi pulled in at least a million combined per year, and from the relatively low amount of assets they lived that million dollar lifestyle as well.
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