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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
October 30 2012 16:53 GMT
#261
On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.


I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also.


Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
October 30 2012 17:04 GMT
#262
In Central New York everyone bought generators and emergency supplies but all that happened was the power went out for some for a couple of hours. Not even any wind damage. We got lucky up here.
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
October 30 2012 17:27 GMT
#263
On October 31 2012 01:53 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.


I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also.


Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit.


The one last year didn't have flooding. It was actually quite a harmless snow storm if it weren't for the fact the trees still had leaves and collapsed based on the weight of the snow. Sandy had winds that knocked out the trees and drove water into the streets.
Sparkman
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60 Posts
October 30 2012 17:31 GMT
#264
This storm is killing me I want to go outside and exercise!!!!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 30 2012 17:36 GMT
#265
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote:
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On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.

lol what was all this crap?

It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
October 30 2012 17:38 GMT
#266
On October 31 2012 02:36 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote:
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.

lol what was all this crap?

It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy.

Who knew Ludacris could act?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
October 30 2012 17:38 GMT
#267
On October 31 2012 02:27 czylu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 01:53 ZapRoffo wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:46 heliusx wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:32 trifecta wrote:
On October 31 2012 01:06 heliusx wrote:
A 13ft storm surge is pretty typical for a direct hit from a cat 1. I'm imagining most of the damage is from lack of preparation to deal with the water. There are no city wide water pumps? I believe new orleans (another low lying city) can drain around 6 billion gallons a day.

Hurricane categories are based on wind speed so it was a cat 1 not "2 or 3". The pressure is basically what creates the winds, it's not a destructive force itself that will cause flooding and what not. Basically the category system is based on it's wind speed not hindsight of how much damage it caused.


Fortunately, only certain parts of NYC are low lying, and storms like these hit us 1-2 times a century, thus not too many pumps installed.


I see, I was under the impression that the flooding last year was pretty bad also.


Nah last year was really nothing, this one was magnitudes worse. But with climate change it's probable the frequency of storms like this will increase a bit.


The one last year didn't have flooding. It was actually quite a harmless snow storm if it weren't for the fact the trees still had leaves and collapsed based on the weight of the snow. Sandy had winds that knocked out the trees and drove water into the streets.


The major flooding from Irene was further north and east, in Mass, NH, Vermont, and Maine iirc. It was bad, it just wasn't in NYC. The ground up there doesn't soak up water quite the same way it does elsewhere. Then again, with the amount of paving, underground building, and extensive underground systems, I don't know that the ground in NYC soaks up water at all - most of the skyscrapers are anchored into bedrock.

Oh, someone said something about "having infrastructure below ground" and being hurricane proof - I live in Florida. A lot of the new power lines are going in underground, because it means fewer power outages due to downed trees. There is actually a fair amount of infrastructure here underground - it's just that the vast majority of it is storm drains that were designed to handle large amounts of rain that can occur in a very short period. Categories are scientific ways of defining a storm - just because a Cat 1 would have minimal impact in much of Florida doesn't mean that a Tropical Storm hitting a far more populous location that is historically unprepared for the event wouldn't cause more significant damage. (Kind of like, which does more damage - an F5 tornado in a Kansas corn field or an F1 tornado in Times Square?)
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Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
October 30 2012 17:52 GMT
#268
The devastation is really sad to see, hang in there guys
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
October 30 2012 18:30 GMT
#269
On October 31 2012 02:38 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 02:36 Probe1 wrote:
On October 31 2012 00:01 MattBarry wrote:
On October 30 2012 23:57 Mondieu wrote:
oh boy; reading this thread made me realize how much americans hate each other ^^

Americans only unite when we're at war basically. Like, people the north shore hate the people from the south shore in southeastern louisiana, but we're one in the same when we hate the north Louisiana people together, and then we hate Mississippi together as a state, but the south hates the north together which unites the south, and the country hates the middle east together. Unity through hatred.

lol what was all this crap?

It's not "Americans" that hate each other. It's teenagers on the internet being 2deep2edgy.

Who knew Ludacris could act?

both of you relax and stay on topic please
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bK-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States326 Posts
October 30 2012 18:39 GMT
#270
I live in Florida myself and these storms are usually played up. The main concern is the flooding which comes with excessive rains in flood zones. The winds/storm surge etc.. etc.. is minor when compared to the amount of rain. The only time when the winds/storm surges are a huge concern is when you have a category 3 storm or greater.
We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32102 Posts
October 30 2012 18:46 GMT
#271
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Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
October 30 2012 18:49 GMT
#272
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.
Set it ablaze!
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 30 2012 18:49 GMT
#273
Damn that's fucked up :S
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 30 2012 18:51 GMT
#274
Was playing LoL with a friend when it hit, a tree fell on the front of his house so he had to leave mid game. We still won 4v5 so all good.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#275
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote:
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.

Yea how this gets handled could have a massive effect on how the election swings, if I was Obama I would ride in there personally on the roof of a tank followed by a caravan of military trucks full of food and medical supplies.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
October 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#276
I live right outside Atlantic City, looks like im going to have to rebuild my business from the ground up because of this storm, as 80% of my business happens on NJ's southern barrier islands (I do termite work for real estate agents). Serious problems for me . I rode the storm out at a friends in Jackson, and it looks like some of my friends lost their houses. I'm just happy everyone is alive.
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
October 30 2012 19:07 GMT
#277
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote:
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.


I read that the dude that bush had handling FEMA said that obama "responded too quickly"

He forgot to finish that sentence ..."'cause you are making me look like shit"
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#278
So how bad are damages? (i'm at West Coast so I have no idea how bad it is)
looks like a lot of flooding from the images. Any estimates for damages yet?
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-30 19:12:06
October 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#279
On October 31 2012 03:49 Nausea wrote:
I bet if Obama handles this well he will win the election big, if he handles it poorly he will lose surprisingly big.



I think he wins

MA has downed power lines, nothing major.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
October 30 2012 19:12 GMT
#280
On October 31 2012 04:06 Zoltan wrote:
I live right outside Atlantic City, looks like im going to have to rebuild my business from the ground up because of this storm, as 80% of my business happens on NJ's southern barrier islands (I do termite work for real estate agents). Serious problems for me . I rode the storm out at a friends in Jackson, and it looks like some of my friends lost their houses. I'm just happy everyone is alive.

I'm sorry to hear about your plight; luckily, reconstruction projects are likely going to need termite work!
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